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"And the coup de gras, Avatar, a movie "made just for a blue audience.""
Hey man.... Smurf Lives Matter!!!
Oscar Academy has shown for many years they love (in addition to great acting) body transformation... actors who physically suffer to play their role.
Phoenix has this in the bag.
There's a difference between Suicide Squad, Venom, and the like and Joker.
Those others were blatantly fictional (popcorn) comic book movies.
Joker was a very serious and dark movie that just happened to be based on a comic book.
Rooting for the bad guy is like rooting for the underdog. Think 'Rudy' or 'Hoosiers'.
Only difference here is the underdog happens to be an insane, murderous, nihilist.
Possible there are different edited dialogue in different countries...
In the U.S.... she definitely said "you" followed by "me either".
I saw it 2 days ago and again 2 hours ago.
That was pretty terrifying.
And Phoenix is a pretty un-terrifying looking/acting guy.
He went deep into the role this movie!
Guessing he'll win all the awards.
People still love Polanski... don't be selectively offended just because you are told to.
Now common...
Without having seen it, I can make an educated guess that Rambo didn't kill more then 40-50 people (maybe 80), in increasingly gruesome ways.
Love your point :)
See youre half joking but...
The dancing was part of his decent. Not just obviously to us, but in his own messed up mind he was becoming free.
I half expected his (he wishes) girlfriend to suddenly join him in his lonely delusional dancing (you could tell at times he appeared to be dancing with someone who wasn't there).
Respect your opinion, but I don't think there's any way he doesn't win every award.
Usually, Best Actor goes to the best of the good (Hollywood politics not withstanding).
This was the best performance Ive seen in a long long time.
Theron in 'Monster' is the most recent I can think of, as far as drastically transforming yourself physically.
Of course Ledger, who deserved it, but also got some sympathy since he died before the awards.
Hanks in Philidelphia maybe? Abraham in Amadeus (impressive he didn't split to many votes with Hulce).
Its rare that you get an overwhelming favorite before the year has ended.
Well said.
A villain almost never sees himself as the bad guy.
What makes the Joker so unique however, is he doesn't care (at least in the context of this movie).
He wants to matter, he wants to be in control of his own life and he wants to be happy.
By the end, he understands most people see him as a villain, he also understands that they don't understand him.
He no longer sees right and wrong as they do. He is happy, wants others to be the same kind of happy that he has become, and that's all that matters.
I have similar feelings...
Scary (afterward) to think I was sympathizing with Fleck/Joker even to the very end...
Luckily, Im sane... or am I? Is my history multiple choice? Hehehe
J/k... fantastic movie. Going to see it again tomorrow after reflecting for a couple days.
Meh... my mom took us to see Nightmare on Elm Street when I was 13... didn't mess me up.
Though that was a far cry from the disturbing psychological punch in the gut this was.
Definitley, would not let an underage kid of mine see this.
In my experience, a great deal of clapping in the theater depends on the audience you happened to share tickets with at that particular time and location.
Never believe what you hear on the internet... except me :)
Aww...
You just brought back the scene where he was bathing his mother!
I think my mind had intentional blocked that out!
First real clue to the audience that she was as messed up as he was, though... for anyone who had doubts.
Similar themes (in addition to those mentioned)…
Clockwork Orange, Fight Club and (to a degree) The Shinning.
Yes... very funny.
Inexplicably, I saw that movie once almost 40 years ago and saw that poster and the stupid theme music for it got stuck in my head!
Why did my brain store such a memory????
Good catch... I forgot that one.
I think John Wayne and Jeff Bridges might both have been nominated for Rooster Gogburn… but I don't think either won.
That being said... Joker is almost definitely going to be the 2nd.
Cant imagine anyone topping Phoenix' performance this time around.
Zombi's movies can be fun to watch if you're really in the right mood (Texas Chainsaw kinda mood).
To even compare his (especially that) movies to this is absurd.
Halloween did not need an origin story... it ruined the character!
They left it vague, but I think he killed her.
Else why was he then back in his apartment (seemingly for hours putting on makeup and talking to old business friends) for so long?
She would have likely called the cops, if she was still able.
Pretty sure he killed the shrink at the very end as well...
His bloodstained footprints as he strolled freely down the hallway gave that away.
Agreed.
As far as the very ending?
That riot was going to end hours or days (even if they had to call in the nation guard) later, and Arthur Fleck's name, looks, address would be well known by then (little guy he let walk out the door (thankfully) went straight to the cops).
So, no way was he going to escape.
So jump ahead a couple weeks later, and there he is in Arkham, talking to a shrink.
But as Joker said in a previous incarnation, "Does it really matter if you take me back to Arkham if it doesn't matter to me?"