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Are there two different versions of the movie?

posted 5 years ago by Geff (453)
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I saw the movie once in an American theatre and I remember the psychiatrist clearly said "They don't give a shit about people like 'us'."

Then later I saw it in a Russian theatre. But, this time the psychiatrist said "They don't give a shit about you Arthur. And they don't give a shit about me either."

This is an incredibly important line and I don't understand how there can be two different versions. I'm almost certain that I'm not mis-remembering that she said 'us' the first time I saw it. I remember this because I remember thinking how important this word is in the larger context of the film. When I rewatched it and heard the different line, I was baffled, it took away a lot of the impact of the scene.

Has anyone seen it in American theatres recently or plan to see it? Can someone please tell me whether she says 'us'? I can't be hallucinating...

EDIT: Based on the comments I can absolutely confirm there are two versions.

[–] dmac8 (5050) 5 years ago

"Joker, as Arthur Fleck, sits opposite his social worker/therapist expressing his frustrations. She doesn’t listen to him, he complains. She interrupts his monologue to tell him that their conversations are going to have to come to an end as a result of city cutbacks. “They don’t give a shit about people like us,” she says. "

[–] Faridah (1363) 5 years ago

The version I saw definitely had her saying US. I remember it well because I too felt that was important.

[–] AP (5288) 5 years ago

I saw it in Canada and she said “us”.

[–] SpikeMike (470) 5 years ago

I saw this in the U.S. a couple hours ago and she definitely doesn't say is. She says about Arthur and then herself. There is no way there is 2 random cuts uploaded by WB with such a minor change, so either people are misremembering or their was a trailer with the line that is confusing people.

[–] Geff (453) 5 years ago

How come so many people are saying they heard "us"?

If it were "minor" as you say, it would be forgivable and I wouldn't even bring it up. The only reason i bought it up is because it is a massive difference.

The difference between "'you' and 'me'" and "us" is massive when considering the larger context of the film's theme which is questioning society. The word "us" made far more sense during my initial theatre experience. "'you' and 'me'" watered down the entire scene. This is because the scene makes you question the "us-ness", there is no us, the psychiatrist is inattentive and doesn't care about Arthur, she only cares about her paycheck. She only brings up "us" when HER job is going away.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 5 years ago

The Mandela Effect.

[–] MoviesSuck (964) 5 years ago

There’s the original version, and then there’s the Lorenzo’s Oil cut.

[–] mikethemartian (6777) 5 years ago

I just saw it on the IMAX in the US and second version sounds closer to what I remember.

[–] AdamS (336) 5 years ago

Possible there are different edited dialogue in different countries...

In the U.S.... she definitely said "you" followed by "me either".

I saw it 2 days ago and again 2 hours ago.

[–] Kingswood (1260) 5 years ago

This is the version I remember.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 5 years ago

I saw the "you" version.

[–] SpikeMike (470) 5 years ago

Because that is the only version. People are just misremembering her saying "us".

[–] actionkamen (23176) 5 years ago

Ah, so it's the Berenstain Bears syndrome.