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You do realize that in order for DJT to be telling the TRUTH about this ENTIRE AFFAIR a series of high level, professional career diplomats with impeccable records and members of his own executive office MUST be lying!! I will respect you if you are merely having a logical exercise here or if you say you are so invested in this man you are willing to overlook ANY kind of wrong doing. I won't like it but I can respect that. If you want to tell me that He is telling the TRUTH and this is just a coup? I won't!
There is also a VERY easy solution to all this, that will quiet ALL questions. Voluntarily waive privilege, go before the people and explain what you did and why, simple! But he DARES not!!!!!
Instead what does he do? He asks Barr to go out and LIE again on his behalf and say his call was perfect! Unfortunately for him, Barr does not want to go to jail! You see it's one thing for Barr to stand before the cameras and lie about a good man's work but quite another for him to risk being sworn under oath to explain his lying in an impeachment hearing!
Tell me this: How do you get to a summary WITHOUT an original 1st draft or taped recording?!? Did these people just gather around and decide what they remembered or noted down?!? What do the ellipses represent? If there are ellipses doesn't it follow that there is a copy in which there are NO ellipses? Why can't we see that? This is soooo STUPID, you act like the summary that Trump provided is the ONLY record of the call. LOGIC suggests that can not be true. What do they have secreted in the super secret server? Call it whatever the F you like, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO SEE!!!!!!!
Because it was such a BEAUTIFULLY PERFECT CALL. " Read the transcript"? No, let's read the ENTIRE call! Not simply the tripe you put out, like you did with the Barr, Mueller summary!
It's not my fault you did not pay attention in Class or Sunday School...sorry go get an education!
I thought YOU guys were the religious ones. I am not responsible for YOUR education, friend.
Another LIE!
If there are no tapes how did they get the summary? What did they secret in the super secret server? Why did they leave out some of Lt Col Vindman's words?
Cover up, cover up , cover up!
“Eye of the needle” Bro that’s what the Bible says. Go ask your more religiously educated “christian” friends to explain! “Eye of the needle” God is does not deal with statistical probability. Sorry, you can’t just ignore his teachings about the poor and less fortunate and expect to stroll into heaven....as a statistical probability!
Then why hide the call? Why not publish the tapes of an absolutely perfect call? You better hope there are only a few words missing. I count 20 to 25 minutes missing SOME of which has some key words deliberately taken out. With such a beautiful call, why hide the tapes? the witnesses? the documents? THAT’s not how an innocent person behaves!
btw Obama is no longer President.
“The call was absolutely perfect! And that’s why we immediately hid it away in a secret server!”
Trump supporters are NOT Christians by definition....at least not in my book!
“The call was absolutely perfect! And that’s why we immediately hid it away in a secret server!”
Yes... Delusional conservative lies !!!
It's tiring dealing with people who don't recognize facts and lie ALL THE TIME
a) They did not release a transcript of the call! They released a SUMMARY about 25 to 30 minutes of talk time is MISSING!!!! where the .... (ellipses) are!!!
b) When a President asks a foreign government for help in his election, he should and is going to be impeached!!!
c1) Yes, definitely! The Democrats began the entire Russian plot; got Don Jnr and Co to meet with Russians at Trump tower; Hired Manafort with a ton of Soviet oligarch, contacts, money and debt, to be Trumps campaign manager; and then stuck their hands into Trump to make him to say "Russia if you are listening..."; engineered Flynn to take money from Turkey while national security officer; then Democrats also engineered Wikileaks to release damaging emails; got Comey to investigate Hillary and re-open the investigation days before the election....ALL to elect Trump?!?!
C2) Then Yes, they hatched up the entire "Whistle blower nonsense" plot too to frame Trump. They faked a report to match a Call they were not on; got a U.S. ambassador; other career U.S. diplomats to corroborate their master plan; got former defense sec. Bolton to call it a "drug deal" Then they what, 'hypnotized' Trump into sending Giuliani to Ukraine to overrun official US diplomatic channels; to collude with thuggish looking men; got those men to pose with Trump and talk about corrupt deals, launder money etc in Ukraine; got the men to have dinner with Trump and G and his attorney to celebrate after the corrupt Barr conclusions of the Mueller probe. Yes, yes, yes, Democrats did all this merely to make Trump look bad...because he did nothing wrong (right?)
TALK ABOUT DELUSIONAL!!!
(btw you do know that 75% of Fox "news" is nothing but right wing cookie conspiracy lies, don't you?)
Yes fear 100%, many people dislike him but he has A LOT of protection. He is just a coward!
The Democrats are not the ones ignoring subpoenas and declining to give testimony now, are they? If the administration is so sure it has nothing to hide, that the call was soooo perfect....why is it hiding? and asking everyone else to hide? Why won't it produce the entire phone call? Well Nancy Pelosi has called their bluff, time for them to show their cards. Everything will soon be public...we'll see.
Because Bob Barr hijacked the Mueller report; concocted misleading conclusions and cooked up some specious rule that the Pres. can not be indicted (remains to be tested in court) but because Muellar did all this it encouraged the President to continue to seek foreign help to win the 2020 election. Well, now the chickens have now come home to roost. Now it appears the call with the Ukrainian Pres, was the tip of the ice berg of coercive attempts to get them to investigate Biden. The Pres. has been misled into thinking he is above the law and we are about to find out that he is not.
The only question left is WHEN, not if, WHEN the Republican senators will decide to put country before party. It must be clear to them by now to them that EVENTUALLY the truth will ALL come out. The only question they are considering now is WHEN is the optimum time to jump ship and to carefully couch their comments to reporters in the meantime. Have you seen VP Pence or Secretary Pompeo answer reporter's questions lately?. It's like they are walking in a word minefield.
If you wanted to know that this would inevitably end badly for the Republican party, you should have paid attention to Sean Hannity soon after the "Whistle blower" story broke. That is the ONLY reason I watch Fox to gauge the relative intensity of Hannity and back then...he was deflated...trust me These news people (especially the ones with contacts in the administration) probably know MUCH more than they are reporting...for obvious reasons.
Don't get me wrong, some of them might put up a good fight but THEY know, EVERYONE with an ounce of brains knows.....ALL THESE PEOPLE CAN'T BE LYING
But it will be fun to watch!
Two things combine to create a toxic result. The first is AGE. Many core ST fans are in their 40s and 50s now. They can't even properly set up their phones, how can you expect them to ' get,' DSC? These people barely have A FB account don't do tweeter or Instagram. They are waving bye bye to a train that has left them at the station!
Second thing is look at the original DSC bridge crew. How is it different from all its predecessors? What's missing? The valiant white, male heterosexual hero. What had been a staple in ALL other ST. series is completely absent in DSC.
CANON is just the convenient excuse used to decry DSC. Notice that when it comes to a Pike/Spock spin off, canon is no longer an issue. The big irony of course is that these"fans" fail to appreciate is that it is the SAME writers that created the Spock and Pike charact they drool ove, that also created the other DSC characters whom these fans love to hate.
I really can't believe that these 'males" have such fragile egos. How the hell do they think the rest of humanity survived 6 series of countless episodes and almost two dozen movies etc?
CBS ALL ACCESS, is looking to the future and they are seeing a much more diverse AUDIENCE and so they are creating shows that will appeal to thee
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Well, maybe they filmed all three scenes separately and used a computer to place all the characters together in one continuous shot. If not, that scene would be a herculean task to shoot. Either way I know I have never seen ANYTHING quite like that on TV before and I found it very effective. This is why I like directors like David Lynch who use film in innovative ways!
Judging by the other 'mindless' comments I have read about this series so far, it is possible, the show itself will be become a statement about the knee jerk, jump to our side, thoughtless nature of contemporary society.
First rule of make believe is to " suspend disbelief", put preconceived beliefs aside. The hollywoodreporter reviewer and hownos failed to do that simple thing and thereby missed the gem of WWK. Warning*** if you come to this show with ANY preconceptions of marriage, infidelity or women murderers, please check them at the door*** or you will miss the show COMPLETELY! I too almost never watched it because I felt I knew what it was going to be about, before I saw it. I was very pleasantly surprised. First, between comedy and tragedy, this show has a blended tone all of its own, that works great! Within the same episode the viewer would be in stitches over farce; nervous about pending spousal abuse or humiliation; and touched almost to tears at the demonstration of genuine affection.
Second, unlike Desperate Housewives or Sex and the City two other tv shows to which is was compared, you don't get the chance to be bored with any overwrought drama or incredible norms of female sexuality. If the characters in WWK are stereotypical, they are realistic. If we see the modern "throuple"; or the 60's 'beaten', 'cheated on' and 'controlling' housewives; or the 80s 'fake' couple as stereotypes, it may be because they represent a biting commentary on each period's wrecking of the marital estate. Don't blame the characters, blame the society they are representing.
Third, I have NEVER seem anything as innovative on tv in a long, long time. The seamless transitions between periods with the house serving as main backdrop is clever use of film and the amazing finale showing all 3 murders within the same area of the house at once is a cinematic triumph! apparently breaking the fourth wall. Fourth, if you suspend your disbelief long enough you will realize that in addition to marriage, infidelity and murder, WWK deals thoughtfully and emotionally with many other themes like: AIDS, infanticide, societal pressure, societal ostracizing, drug addiction, wealth corruption and parental abuse... to name a few.
I fear many people will come to a conclusion about this series before watching the first frame!
Spoiler:<spoiler> in WWK no wife kills strictly because of infidelity! <spoiler>
AG Barr trying to give his buddy cover for impeachment. A shame and it won't work!
The real FACTS are coming out:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/23/us/politics/ukraine-aid-freeze-impeachment.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR2I4XXr0p_tJjarEAlk4P74LCphQiONzneNyTpzrt_p-g0M1sxTanPWZM4
Well we'll see who is correct in a few weeks or months!