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This is pure fantasy. Women aren't heroes or physical combat warriors.

posted 8 years ago by Rebuild_Reclaim
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How many women put themselves in harms way to save people? LOL. How many women are tougher and stronger than men?

In this whole "women empowerment" garbage where we constantly get female action stars with them besting men physically and mentally, that's as far from reality as the alien creatures featured in these stories. You don't see women working terrifying jobs or beating people in combat.

It's pure BS and these movies are nothing but social engineering of feminist garbage.

[–] lenlenlen1 8 years ago

Rebuild_Reclaim, I could totally set you up with a good looking hetero woman that I KNOW could kick your ass. Wanna make it happen?

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

I could totally set you up with a good looking hetero woman that I KNOW could kick your ass. Wanna make it happen?
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How vile, violent and reprehensible you are, wanting to see a males ass being kicked, just to make yourself appear empowered and strong over males. If a male commented on wanting to kick a females ass, imagine all the tons of bricks that would come down on him. That is not equality, you hypocritical, sexist, chauvinistic sow. You give good decent females a bad name. Shame on you! 

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] kya1 8 years ago

well, maybe not many are physically stronger, but there have to be female soldiers and other females working in dangerous war zones, risking their lives.

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[–] Xenopickles 8 years ago

Why are you people even fighting with this virgin?

Get away from her, you BITCH!!!

[–] kaledolfin 8 years ago

Why do you hate virgins, you parthenophobe?

[–] strwbryelf 8 years ago

that's as far from reality as the alien creatures featured in these stories.

So real question: if it's as fantastical as the aliens in the stories, why be bothered by it? Throughout the star wars franchise we've seen each and every major female character in some iteration of "strong female" stereotypes (appropriate to the time in which the film was made). Leia's wielding blasters and always a part of the action (in addition to being in the senate). Her mother was a (very young and prominent) senator in her short life, etc. So for Rey or Jyn or whoever to be *unbelievably* strong -- I don't know. I don't see it.

You can also see a similar evolution of the female character as demonstrated by the Disney princesses. We got the first being asleep for a good portion of the film and having to be awakened by a kiss, to a rebellious spritely sea nymph who still somehow thinks it ok to give up her voice to be closer to a man, and then we have the newer ones -- Moana, Tiana, and Elsa -- characters who have shown both strengths and weaknesses, characters who are complicated, multifaceted and dynamic. a

And as a side note, look up female Kurdish fighters.

If you have issues with certain characters being static, stock Sues -- I get it. I totally do.

http://www.fictionpress.com/s/3042433/1/The-Blackstall-Curve time travel novel

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Unlike the first Star Wars film, they're trying for more realism with this film and they still made realistic characters (no Force power whatsoever) overtake the most menacing villains the universe has ever known like a knife cutting through butter.

[–] DarthKane 8 years ago

No kidding. I can name a couple of girls who have even beaten up Ronda Rousey. If women were equal to men then cops would take calls seriously about women raping men or hitting their husbands. Men deserve equal rights.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Actually to be more specific, how many women will actually throw down their lives to save the men they supposedly love like so many men have sacrificed their lives for women?? It's not in their DNA. Hell, feminism comes up with its own reasons for women not to do this. If men are all considered oppressive rapists, who's gonna want to risk their lives for a person like that? It's not an attack on women's character. It just makes women different from men. And women should be willing to love, respect and honor those differences.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

It just makes women different from men. And women should be willing to love, respect and honor those differences.
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Except that they aren't being realistic about it and want equality and to be seen on equal footing with men, when nature's biological differences are going to prevent this from happening. They want something that can't possibly happen and then go into denial and delusional mode, because they are "special" creatures of the earth. You can't even talk commonsense into most women, as they feel you are then undermining them or being sexist, when it is just raw and cold reality.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

So many men have sacrificed their lives for women? BULL$HIT!!! Are you Lukelovesfilm? You have a hard-on for your own gender. Both men and women have risked their lives, and even lost them, for others. And no one is saying all men are oppressive rapists, that's just strawman $hit.

If we're supposed to honor the male gender for their heroics, what about the fact that they commit 90% of murders? I've got a better idea, honor people INDIVIDUALLY.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

So many men have sacrificed their lives for women? BULL$HIT!!!

Nope it is a fact.

the fact that they commit 90% of murders?

that is also a fact

I've got a better idea, honor people INDIVIDUALLY.

Impossible because of human nature, we are group animals, success of individual is considered a success of a group s/he is a part of.
Want clear example of that?
Why do people cheer when sports team from their city wins championship? I mean nobody watching a game in front of tv won, only those people in the team won, so why are they happy? Obvious answer, because it is "their" team.
Why are people happy when sportsman from their country wins gold in the olimpics? I mean, they did not won anything, this one guy won. But he represented their country meaning that their country won, meaning that by extension- they won.
Why are feminist organistations happy when a woman is mentioned in top10 most influental people of the year? I mean it is one woman... she should be happy but why other women should be? Because she is also a woman and therefore she is "one of them".
This "one of us" mentality is the greatest double edged sword in human history, on one hand thanks to it we were able to do amazing things that no individual could accomplish without help, on the other it is also a source of division beetwen people.
Human nature I guess, good mixed with the bad.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Just because you can't get a hard on for your own feeble and weak gender, it makes you envious. And yes, those males that become murderers, have been nurtured by special and caring female creatures, who are deluded into thinking they know what they are doing with their male children. In other words, they have no freakin' clue and mess them up. Stupid feminist tw@t.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

It doesn't matter who I am. What matters is the truth. And the truth is men have sacrificed far more than women have for the opposite sex. Our lives have very little value women of any generation, because of a victim complex that they have as soon as they get their first period, after noticing that boys don't have to deal with cramps and bleeding. That hostile resentment toward men isn't going away any time soon.

Chivalry is now going by the name HeForShe.

Being a gentleman toward women is now "Teach boys not to rape."

Do you see a pattern here? I see a pattern of the same old gynocentric nonsense, repackaged in ways that are getting worse and worse for men.

[–] npfares 8 years ago

Well, you are sexist.

[–] InherentlyYours 8 years ago

Well, you are sexist

Thats what certain women say when they cannot accept both the double standards that females are partly responsible for, and their own physical weakness and spoiled nature.

Independent self-confident women, or women who have had their share of emotional-growth, accept the realities of the human condition, without resorting to the sexist-accusation like a child. That makes you such women sexist (but they don't know it)

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