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This is pure fantasy. Women aren't heroes or physical combat warriors.

posted 8 years ago by Rebuild_Reclaim
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How many women put themselves in harms way to save people? LOL. How many women are tougher and stronger than men?

In this whole "women empowerment" garbage where we constantly get female action stars with them besting men physically and mentally, that's as far from reality as the alien creatures featured in these stories. You don't see women working terrifying jobs or beating people in combat.

It's pure BS and these movies are nothing but social engineering of feminist garbage.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

In general, women are less intelligent than men. Since the dawn of man this has been so. While the bigger, stronger males went off on the hunt or made war with competing tribes and thus developed their brains, women stayed back at the cave in a vapid haze of ignorance, tending to the fire with a kid plugged into one of her boobs. That's why women are generally more irrational and emotionally-driven when it comes to common sense and logic; for millions of years their brains remained in neutral and therefore devolved into the effed up crazy biatches we all know today.

Men have always exceeded women when it comes to brainpower: scientists, philosophers, artists...etc.... the great grand majority of history's great thinkers? Men. Who invented the bra? A man. Who invented the tampon? A man. If it wasn't for men, women would still be running through the bush with their knockers flopping in the wind as they search for more peat moss to stuff up their bleeding hoochies.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

In general, women are less intelligent than men. Since the dawn of man this has been so. While the bigger, stronger males went off on the hunt or made war with competing tribes and thus developed their brains, women stayed back at the cave in a vapid haze of ignorance, tending to the fire with a kid plugged into one of her boobs. That's why women are generally more irrational and emotionally-driven when it comes to common sense and logic; for millions of years their brains remained in neutral and therefore devolved into the effed up crazy biatches we all know today.

Men have always exceeded women when it comes to brainpower: scientists, philosophers, artists...etc.... the great grand majority of history's great thinkers? Men. Who invented the bra? A man. Who invented the tampon? A man. If it wasn't for men, women would still be running through the bush with their knockers flopping in the wind as they search for more peat moss to stuff up their bleeding hoochies.

As blunt as you may sound Weedinator, just say it like it is. Of course females, and even many mangina males would get on their high horse at the crass manner of your post; but "reality" is what it is, and women would just love to hurl the sexist and misogynist insult at you for telling them the truth. I guess when one gender is more shortsighted and irrational than the other, "allowances" need to be made for them. Or has that just been traversed into "spoiling" them instead? Men are to blame for this. They still do, and will always exceed females though, no matter what strides temperamental and emotionally overwrought females make in free society, that has given them the world.

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[–] rascal67 8 years ago

I ended up seeing TLKG and enjoyed it. I like True Romance better though. As for these kick ass women, it was all in the spirit of fun and Davis had the training and Arquette endured, because of true love. Gandolfini, shouldn't have gotten so cocky and Arquette took one hell of a beating.

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

No, men aren't more intelligent than women as women have closed the IQ gap.
http://www.livescience.com/21647-men-women-iq-scores.html

Of course men have exceeded women in areas like science, philosophy, art, etc. That was easy to do when women were kept out of those fields.

As for being emotionally driven and irrational, which gender commits 90% of murders? Most violent crimes? Which gender has started most of the wars? Both genders are irrational and emotionally driven, but in different ways.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

You actually believe this link somehow proves anything, other than my original point? heh

Then to put the icing on your cake of ineptitude, you try to excuse womens' lack of accomplishment throughout history because 'they were kept out of those fields', then turn completely around and blame war on men when there is essentially nobody else in the position to do so in the first place...

And of course, you simply lack the mentality to grasp the simple fact that it is not impossible for men to be emotional or irrational, and then try to apply murder and crimes as the 'prove-all' that women AREN'T more so????

hahahahahahahaha... If only you could think....

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Throughout most of human history there were rigid gender roles that kept women mostly in the home making and caring for children, and attending to domestic duties, so of course they weren't going to be doing much inventing, building, discovering, etc.

Most wars have been started by men. Look at all the conquerors. How many of them are women?

When a man gets angry, aggressive, violent, that is being emotional. Just because women cry more, it doesn't mean they're more emotional.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

"Throughout most of human history there were rigid gender roles that kept women mostly in the home making and caring for children, and attending to domestic duties, so of course they weren't going to be doing much inventing, building, discovering, etc. "

Yeah, I know. I'm pretty sure I outlined this exact thing in my first post here. Christ you're dumb.

"Most wars have been started by men. Look at all the conquerors. How many of them are women? "

Again, stupid, you can't excuse womens' failures because of their exclusion and then turn around and BLAME men for war when the same criteria applies. No wait, you can... since you're so clueless..

"When a man gets angry, aggressive, violent, that is being emotional. Just because women cry more, it doesn't mean they're more emotional."

It's about rationality you imbecilic zero... try actually reading stuff before you start babbling, OK genius?

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

In general, women are less intelligent than men.

Quite the contrary, statistically women are less intelligent than men but in general they are moreintelligent. Why? Because there are more genius level men than genius level women and those geniuses are really bright bulbs, but unfortunately there are also more complete idiots who are male. So while statistically man do have slightly (and I stress the fact :slightly) higher intelligence it is mostly thanks to that upper 0,05% of guys who might as well be different species alltogether because of their massive intelligence difference.

It is important to remember that general trends mean very little for actual people, it means very little (for me personally) that there is a men who can do higher mathematics on a napkin while drunk if I struggle with calculus.

While the bigger, stronger males went off on the hunt or made war with competing tribes and thus developed their brains

And muscles, stamina, pain tolerance tunnel vision etc.

women stayed back at the cave

You do know that they did not just sit around the cave right? Women were gatherers, first herbalists and in pre-agricultural societies leaders of their people precisly because men were so often away. Also there are some theories that women were first manufacturers of alcohol which for me is a really impressive feat. Imagine, going back from hunt and relaxing with cold (relativly) cup (more or less) of alcohol.

tending to the fire with a kid plugged into one of her boobs.

Without those kids tribes would perish, that is the thing, death of a man was sad but not tragic but loss of a woman was terrible for a tribe.

That's why women are generally more irrational and emotionally-driven

Not true when you consider that both anger and pride are also emotions. Both men and women are emotionally driven, but they react stronger to different emotions.

scientists, philosophers, artists...etc.... the great grand majority of history's great thinkers? Men.

Yeah, how surprising that in a society run on muscle power gender with more muscle power was a main driving force and was also attributed other virtues- like wisdom and knowledge. But as physical force was slowly becoming irrelevant the role of a woman changed vastly. You can even see it in roman republic which was one of the first more gender-balanced civilisations. With enviroment becomes safer rigid gender roles are softening up making it possible for both gender to try something else because civilisation is not threatened on a daily basis.

If it wasn't for men, women would still be running through the bush with their knockers flopping in the wind as they search for more peat moss to stuff up their bleeding hoochies

Since many scientist believes that scientific discoveries and inventions are a way of flaunting your intelligence, similar to peacock's tail it is safe to assume that all those great inventions were made to...guess what...impress women. Yeah I know... All those marvels of technology were created (at least on a subconcious level) to impress females with the power of your genius and by extension the power of your tribe (later on nation). So when you will look at the most impressive building in the world know that it was build... to make a girl smile.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Being that women were the gatherers, it's most likely that women first developed farming, which led to to the Neolithic Revolution, which led to our modern world.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

...it's most likely that women first developed farming, which led to to the Neolithic Revolution, which led to our modern world.
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😄 Yes, if you want women to take responsibility for leading up to our modern world, then stop blaming men for all the things that you think is wrong with your life and the world, and take ownership for the mess you have made of it. No wonder it is such a gynocentric saturated society. Feminisim, has been the ruination of modern western society.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Being that women were the gatherers, it's most likely that women first developed farming, which led to to the Neolithic Revolution, which led to our modern world.

As outlined in Harari's book 'Sapiens', the Agricultural Revolution was the result of convenience, not some brilliant mastermind plan concocted by women, but thanks for keeping the laughs going...

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

As outlined in Harari's book 'Sapiens', the Agricultural Revolution was the result of convenience, not some brilliant mastermind plan concocted by women, but thanks for keeping the laughs going...

The Neolithic Revolution wouldn't have happened if people didn't observe how plants grow. And which gender was around plants more? Women. They would be the ones who first started experimenting with planting, growing food.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

The Neolithic Revolution wouldn't have happened if people didn't observe how plants grow. And which gender was around plants more? Women. They would be the ones who first started experimenting with planting, growing food.

You don't even realize that you're stupid, do you?

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

You don't even realize that you're stupid, do you?
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No, Ruby Ruthless doesn't, and that is what makes her the feminist laughing stock of these threads. She will latch onto any anomaly that she can, in a desperate attempt to prove how worthy and superior the female gender is over males.

Regardless of whatever seeds they sowed—is she really serious😄—they still needed men in their lives to build them shelter and protect them from the harsher elements of the environment and communities in which they lived. If they were so empowered to begin with, they would have started their own little femib!tch societies, away from those awful oppressive, rapist and misogynistic meany men. I guess they just couldn't get enough of them, yet can't acknowledge which side of the bread their butter is on, and will just go into delusional mode and denial of how shortsighted and ridiculous they can make themselves look.

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[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Who's side are you on jakubmike?

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[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Who's side are you on jakubmike?

That is a very difficult question. I feel strong desire to respond as an ent "I am on nobody's side, because nobody is on my side" but that would be not only very snobish and theatrical (even I am not so full of myself) but also not true.

So let me just say this:

I am on the side of facts.
I am apolitical, I do not subscribe to any particular ideology or movement. If we view facts throught glasses of patricular idea we see only what we want to see, we strenghten our own bias. I am actually interested in knowing how and why things are what they are and I am using my (albeit limited) intelectual potential to try and see the world for what it. I am sure that I do not always succeed in it and acknowledge the fact that I probably have subconcious biases of my own. Anyway I debate radical feminist with equal determination as all others radical ideologies because I think that every radicalism blinds people.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

I am using my...intellectual potential to try and see the world for what it. I am sure that I do not always succeed in it and acknowledge the fact that I probably have subconscious biases of my own. Anyway I debate radical feminist with equal determination as all others radical ideologies because I think that every radicalism blinds people.
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Well said, same for the rest of your explanation. I saw Weedinator's post as amusing, even if crass, base and biased, it still made some fun reading, if one wants to challenge the radical idealism of extreme feminisim and where women fit into society along men. Even those that identify as feminists and are not radical, are still buying into some sense of self-superiority, which they accuse men of. Yes, they are blinded hypocrites.

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[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Women were gatherers, first herbalists and in pre-agricultural societies leaders of their people precisly because men were so often away.

What??? Most monkeys can pick berries and such, but because women accomplished this great feat, that makes leaders of society???? HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!!

Without those kids tribes would perish, that is the thing, death of a man was sad but not tragic but loss of a woman was terrible for a tribe.

What does lactating into an infants mouth have to do with women being intelligent? Oh that's right- it has NOTHING to do with it. Amazing...

Not true when you consider that both anger and pride are also emotions. Both men and women are emotionally driven, but they react stronger to different emotions.

When it comes to logic and common sense... thanks for completely omitting this key point in my quote and thus further proving me right. Speaking of which:

Since many scientist believes that scientific discoveries and inventions are a way of flaunting your intelligence, similar to peacock's tail it is safe to assume that all those great inventions were made to...guess what...impress women.

Really? Pasteurization, insulin, various vaccines...etc...etc... ALL these things were accomplished NOT to save lives and/or the advancement of humanity, it was to pick up chicks.... hahahahahahahahahaha.... holy crap, thanks for essentially proving me right...

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[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Men as a whole are stupid violent and gross. Their testosterone and egos make them prone to irrationality, as you are demonstrating perfectly in this thread.
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Women as a whole are naive, temperamental and bland. Their estrogen and narcissism make them prone to irrationality, as you are demonstrating perfectly in this thread.

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[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

"Their testosterone and egos make them prone to irrationality, as you are demonstrating perfectly in this thread."

Uh-huh... you're the dummy trying to defend the pointless subject of breastfeeding as some sort of 'retort' to the topic of men being more intelligent than women, by clinging to questionable statistics, and you whine to me about 'irrationality'???

Try doing everyone, yourself included, a huge favor and simply shut up.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

that makes leaders of society????

Most wolves can hunt, and compared to monkeys wolves are rather stupid. I do not understand why do you put so much emphasis on "hunting" and ignore difficulties of gathering. You do know that food you are eating grew on fields and it had to be "gathered"? Farmer is next stage of gatherer. And yes the thought "Hey, if I plant this stuff here I will not have to go for miles to pick it" was genius, you take it for granted because it is so obvious now, but most great ideas are obvious...after the fact. It was also one of the reasons for settling down, moving around did not seem as such a great idea after you have prepared your place to suit your needs. Change from nomadic lifestyle to stationary one was not on and of switch, it was gradual. As more and more plants were farmed tribes were slowly settling down because it would be stupid to abandon this places just to start from scratch somewhere else.

What does lactating into an infants mouth have to do with women being intelligent?

Nothing. But socialising had everything to do with it. Human brain did not grew so potent because it was required to hunt and kill. Primates already had vast superiority to other species in terms of intelligence. Human mind grew stronger not because it needed to outsmart other animals, they were already beneath its level. It grew stronger because it need to outsmart other humans. And since women spend more time with each other trying to outsmart each other (scheming is natural part of all primates) their average intelligence grew while men were learning hierarchy and obeying orders because it was important in a hunt. It is also main reason why women are much more "image oriented" while man are more practical. If you have killed a creature everybody saw it, it was undeniable, but a worth of a woman in a tribe was directly linked to her reputation among her peers because while a men can go around braging how he killed a freaking lion a woman was judged based on her social skills- as in whether she was liked or not. This may be a source of this entire "women are more emotional" debate.

Really? Pasteurization, insulin, various vaccines...etc...etc... ALL these things were accomplished NOT to save lives and/or the advancement of humanity, it was to pick up chicks

This empty laught...it is called instinctive denial. As humans we are used to think of ourselves as somehow deep and complex. And to some degree we are, but this complexity is build on a very basic fundaments. Patriotism is nothing but expanded tribe solidarity, and our group think is so strong that you can take two groups of people with nothing in common, give each other a symbol, throw them in a middle of forest... and they will start to hate the other group almost immediatly. There was plenty of science experiments that proved how we defined ourselves not because of our own traits but as oposed to others.
It is very easy to flaunt your strenght- just lift something heavy.
It is very easy to flaunt your battle prowess- just kill other warrior
It is very easy to flaunt your hunting skills- just hunt some great beast.
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if intelligence is so pivotal to human existence it must also be important trait to look in natural selection and how is a woman supposed to know how smart are you? You do not wear the number on your forehead. Easy- build stuff, clever stuff, and show it to her.
Even your "the greatest inventors were X" can be explained by it. A woman may chose (or in older times, her father may chose for her) a man from particular group not because he himself invented something (great inventions are rather rare afterall) but because he is surrounded by things invented by other members of his tribe therefore it stands to reason that simply be belonging to certain group he must be smarter than others.
This is why in plenty of conversations men talk about great achievements of their nations and high standard of living in their countries, to elevate themselves.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

All it proves jakubmike, is the battle of the sexes still rages and men and women sexually desiring each other—as in heterosexuality—is still f<>king us over, or at least the quasi agenda of "normalcy", it likes to present before us.

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[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Most wolves can hunt, and compared to monkeys wolves are rather stupid.

What is really stupid is trying to counter a point regarding comparative intelligence levels of the human sexes with an idiotic reply dealing with different animal species.

I do not understand why do you put so much emphasis on "hunting" and ignore difficulties of gathering.

Hunting: Developing ever-more successful tactics and strategies, invent weapons...etc... and thus develop the brain.

Gathering: Pick fruits and berries.

2 dots. But somehow, I suspect you will fail to connect them.... heh

Now shut up, retard.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Developing ever-more successful tactics and strategies

Against who? Mammoths? 😂
Sorry but no, brain did not grew more potent because you needed this added intelligence to outsmart some beast that was already so much beneath you that your brain could run circles around it while drunk. Brain grew because of social interactions, because you needed to outsmart other humans not a prey. There are plenty of theories that human self-awareness is byproduct of mind theory. As in "we tried so hard to imagine what other person may feel in order to preditct this persons actions that we created simulacrum so complex that it started to reflect itself, and thus self-awareness was born.

As every great master of chess, poker, or any other game will tell you, you are not playing game, you are playing humans.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

You actually believe that when it came to slaying mammoths, strategy and tactics WEREN'T involved???

My god you're stupid. Please shut up.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

We grew our bigger brains when we started scavenging meat. And thinking of better and easier ways to survive.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

You actually believe that when it came to slaying mammoths, strategy and tactics WEREN'T involved???

I am saying that you do not develop such a powerfull tool in order to outsmart mammoth. You do not build a massive canon to shoot ducks.
Remember that brain consumes vast amount of two most important things in the body- oxygen and calories. And nature hate waste, after certain point you hit diminishing returns moment, you spend more and more calories to sustain a brain and hunts go only marinally better because you are already far smarter than them.
So after certain point in human history brain's capacity grew not because those damned mammoths started to figure out traps (they did not) but because you wanted to predict actions of people around you, you needed to run your own virtual machines of them to build a model of their behaviour. Setting trap for some wooly elephant was child's play in comparison.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

I am saying that you do not develop such a powerfull tool in order to outsmart mammoth. You do not build a massive canon to shoot ducks.

Lookit retard, here is what you DID say:

Sorry but no, brain did not grew more potent because you needed this added intelligence to outsmart some beast that was already so much beneath you that your brain could run circles around it while drunk.

You are essentially equating hunting mammoth in the Stone Age as a completely brainless activity and yet, a few steps back, you equated sticking a goddamn seed in the ground to 'genius'.

You're an idiot babbling from his painted-in corner and too incredibly stupid to simply shut the hell up.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

You are essentially equating hunting mammoth in the Stone Age as a completely brainless activity

No, not completely brainless, but far less complicated than navigating social structures were your intelectual oponnents were other people of the same species.

yet, a few steps back, you equated sticking a goddamn seed in the ground to 'genius'.

No, I said that the first person who came up with idea of "sticking goddamn seeds in the ground" had a stroke of genius. I am not saying that complexity of gathering forced brain to grow more potent. Because of course it did not, just like hunt, there is a point were you hit diminishing returns, it is just not cost effective to increase intelligence (which costs massive amount of oxygen and calories) to outsmart a creature that is already far stupider than you.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

No, not completely brainless, but far less complicated than navigating social structures were your intelectual oponnents were other people of the same species.

And this does what to counter the original point? Oh that's right; it has NOTHING to do with it.

"No, I said that the first person who came up with idea of "sticking goddamn seeds in the ground" had a stroke of genius."

Ergo, you DID equate it to genius. Christ you're a dumb one...

"I am not saying that complexity of gathering forced brain to grow more potent. Because of course it did not, ..."

Actually it did: learning and retaining knowledge regarding safe/unsafe foods and medicines, migration and behavior habits of the animals they hunted, among many other things, did develop mental power. An imbecile like you would have been a detriment to the tribe, and quickly murdered, thus your idiot genes would not be passed on to future generations.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Actually it did: learning and retaining knowledge regarding safe/unsafe foods and medicines, migration and behavior habits of the animals they hunted, among many other things, did develop mental power.

And here we go again...yes of course it helped but only to a certain degree, you simply cannot go farther without something to challenge you! Just like you will not build your muscles beyond certain point if you keep using 5 kg weights.

Ergo, you DID equate it to genius.

When you talk about intelligence you have to carefully thread beetwen individual and common tendencies. Having a good idea is proof of mental development not source of mental development.
Inventing a pencil was genius, but making pencils is not source of great intelectual stimulation.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

And here we go again...yes of course it helped but only to a certain degree, you simply cannot go farther without something to challenge you!

I cannot believe how stupid you truly are. Before the agricultural revolution, everyone in the tribe had to be constantly learning new things and have a diverse mental database of flora, fauna, weather...etc... if they were lacking or too mentally inept, they were murdered and their inferior genes not passed on to future generations.

After farming started, permanent communities were formed where such inferior minds were allowed to live as they could perform menial tasks that still benefited the community. Thus the stupid gene was passed on through the millennia, and now we have you, the clueless moron.

When you talk about intelligence you have to carefully thread beetwen individual and common tendencies. Having a good idea is proof of mental development not source of mental development.
Inventing a pencil was genius, but making pencils is not source of great intelectual stimulation.

You equated planting a seed to genius, now you drone on about irrelevant blather as a pathetic means to backpedal. Please shut up.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Poor mammoths.
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[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

On the plus side, they were delicious😄

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

I'm sure they were. Beef is delicious too, but I still feel bad when I see a live cow. I'd be a vegetarian if I had to kill my own meat. Well, I'd still eat fish and eggs.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

I'd be a vegetarian if I had to kill my own meat.
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See, this comment just proves how deeply hypocritical and asleep you are RubyRuthless. You are content to let others do things for you and then turn a blind eye, because you are a fake and a phony and your ethics are questionable. As long as it doesn't affect you personally, you won't look at the bigger picture and use others like the true Femitroll that you are—namely men—to pay the piper for you. A true sociopath and narcissist if there ever was one. Where does your own personal responsibility and ownership for your actions come into play?

Don't eat the whole ones!...Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

I'd be a vegetarian if I had to kill my own meat

Not me, I am honest to god meat eater, if I had to kill a cow to get juicy steak I would kill it with a rock and stupid grinn on my face.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

if I had to kill a cow to get juicy steak I would kill it with a rock and stupid grinn on my face.

heh... so in your 'mind', 10-ton mammoths can be taken by 'setting traps' and 1,500 lb. cows can be killed with a rock.

Hate to break this to you, mike, but that grin isn't the only thing stupid on you, as you are stupidity incarnate. Have fun with that!

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

heh... so in your 'mind', 10-ton mammoths can be taken by 'setting traps'

Yes, traps and ambushes, you can see how people hunted mammoths in stone age.

and 1,500 lb. cows can be killed with a rock.

Yes, you just have to take rock that is big enough. Besides that was essence of the joke, liking meat so much that you would go for the kill even without decent weapon.

Have fun with that!

Oh trust me, you are just endless source of amusement.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Yes, traps and ambushes, you can see how people hunted mammoths in stone age.

Yes, apparently they didn't use their brains at all when devising said ambushes, according to you, the hopeless moron.

Yes, you just have to take rock that is big enough.

It's really a shame you don't have a clue, otherwise you'd be laughing your as$ off at how stupid you are too.

Oh trust me, you are just endless source of amusement.

...said the same drooling retard who tried to argue the fact that hunting promoted mental development by blathering on about monkeys and wolves.... if you weren't stupid? You's be nothing at all.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Yes, apparently they didn't use their brains at all when devising said ambushes, according to you,

Dude, just think about that for a second. Do you know what point of diminishing returns is? There is an upper limit to what you need to devise plans against mammoths. Once you reached this limit it is pointless to continue because both oxygen and calories spend grow and results stay nearly the same.

said the same drooling retard who tried to argue the fact that hunting promoted mental development

No, no don't hide it, tell us how you really feel😂
Of course hunting promotes intelligence but only to a certain point, which is why wolves are not riding cars right now. After certain point you need others to compete, of your own species that is.

And yes, you are just endless fun. Mostly because you debunk yourself. All of your theories about women being emotional and men being rational... while here you are getting angry, your entire posts nothing but bad attempts at offending me (which in case you have not noticed, you failed to do sweety. To get under my skin some talent is required, and your attempt at offence sound like taken from kindergarden). And you are so set in your ways that you cannot even see arguments of the otherside...but women are so emotion driven... if that is true I guess you are deeply in touch with your feminine side😊

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Please, help me. What keeps you going here? What keeps you so sane and stable fighting with these arrogant blockheads?

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Please, help me. What keeps you going here? What keeps you so sane and stable fighting with these arrogant blockheads?

I am not fighting them, it is not a fight when your oponnent just falls on his own sword while screaming profanities at you😂
I just find it hilarious to be honest.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Of course hunting promotes intelligence but only to a certain point, which is why wolves are not riding cars right now.

And here we have the Retard babbling on about other species again.... business as usual.

Men hunted, not only mammoth, but any animal they could, thus developing new tactics, tools, weapons...etc.... and thus developing their brains. Men waged war, which usually leads to advancements in technology, inventions, etc... I know you will never be able to understand something so incredibly simple, but that's only because you are so very, very stupid.

Have fun being a loser for the rest of your pointless life.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Poor cow!
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[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

See, this comment just proves how deeply hypocritical and asleep you are RubyRuthless. You are content to let others do things for you and then turn a blind eye, because you are a fake and a phony and your ethics are questionable. As long as it doesn't affect you personally, you won't look at the bigger picture and use others like the true Femitroll that you are—namely men—to pay the piper for you. A true sociopath and narcissist if there ever was one. Where does your own personal responsibility and ownership for your actions come into play?

Re-posted because it's true.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

LOL at Rascal having a hategasm while pretending I'm his mother. Really, Rascal, take your mommy issues to a therapist.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

How female childish you are Ruby, a "hategasm". You are full of "hategasms', but you give yourself a free pass for being a b!tch female. I think you should take all your vile, fake, phony, sociopathic, MISANDRIST\MISOGYNISTIC, narcissistic and daddy issues to a therapist. They would have a field day with you. Make sure you see a male therapist though, because a female would just be as biased and shortsighted as you. Men do not have to pander or kowtow to women, just because they are female and that includes ignorant mothers like yourself.

Don't eat the whole ones!...Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

So, you don't want to read anything he says or I say, and all you want to do is label with petty ad hominems?? Who's having hategasms now?

When you went to school, did you actually pay attention to any of your male teachers? According to feminist theory, all male teachers will teach you is more oppressive messages about women right??

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

So, you don't want to read anything he says or I say, and all you want to do is label with petty ad hominems?? Who's having hategasms now?

When you went to school, did you actually pay attention to any of your male teachers? According to feminist theory, all male teachers will teach you is more oppressive messages about women right??

I had some wonderful male teachers, and they weren't misogynists like you and Rascal.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

I had some wonderful male teachers, and they weren't misogynists like you and Rascal.
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I had some wonderful female teachers, and they weren't sexist, misandrist, hypocritical feminists like you and Hestia.

Don't eat the whole ones!...Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Men have always exceeded women when it comes to brainpower: scientists, philosophers, artists...etc.... the great grand majority of history's great thinkers?

When a man brags about the accomplishments of his own gender, you can be sure he has no great accomplishments of his own.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Since you feminists ran our fathers off by not accepting them as human beings, wanting to make yourselves above all others, are we not supposed to have heroes to look up to or inspire us now??

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

I don't like to think of women as being "less intelligent."

However, I think they make too much of their emotional brains. They let emotions cloud logic and reason far too often. When they're constantly afraid of nature killing them and everyone they love or they're overwhelmed by the luxury of not having to constantly fight nature to survive, they might have gotten somewhere on their own. It wasn't men holding them back. It was nature constantly challenging their emotional brains.

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Most males are violent worthless cretins. Only a small percentage of them do any good.

The world would be a much different place if that was true.

[–] alfgui 8 years ago

How many women put themselves in harms way to save people? LOL. How many women are tougher and stronger than men?

In this whole "women empowerment" garbage where we constantly get female action stars with them besting men physically and mentally, that's as far from reality as the alien creatures featured in these stories. You don't see women working terrifying jobs or beating people in combat.

Yep, this is a fantasy though.

It's pure BS and these movies are nothing but social engineering of feminist garbage.

The people who are answering trying to prove you wrong are males, who like female action actresses. They are the target of "these movies", not feminists. This fascination for female warriors in men is something quite old, amazons or shield-maidens are an example. The reason many of them try to use feminism and retarded examples of female warriors like Boadicea and Joan of Arc is because that's the way of making their sexual fantasies legit. You see, maybe this is the consequence of feminist theories, but maybe puritanism is involved as well, the idea of being a depraved man if you admit that sexy petite women kicking big men asses turn you on.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

The people who are answering trying to prove you wrong are males, who like female action actresses. They are the target of "these movies", not feminists. This fascination for female warriors in men is something quite old, amazons or shield-maidens are an example. The reason many of them try to use feminism and retarded examples of female warriors like Boadicea and Joan of Arc is because that's the way of making their sexual fantasies legit. You see, maybe this is the consequence of feminist theories, but maybe puritanism is involved as well, the idea of being a depraved man if you admit that sexy petite women kicking big men asses turns you on.

So Quentin Tarantino is one of these men? Or maybe most men understand that action heroes just aren't realistic no matter the gender.

[–] alfgui 8 years ago

If you read some of them who really believe that female warriors in the ancient world were a real thing, obviously it seems like they believe tiny action females could be realistic. There is nothing wrong in liking kicking-ass female heroines, to each his own, i'm just theorizing about them. Another reason could be that violence against women is taboo in the west, but if you are going to play an action hero/heroine you are going to be hurt, so companies may use feminism as a way of avoiding dealing with that.

My whole point is that this kind of movies are targeted to men, not women, and they don't try to brainwash anyone about how women can "fight", because they can't, everyone with half a brain understand women can't physically compete with men. People may say that they love that there are female firefighters for example, but they are very conscious as well that if they are trapped by a fire, only male firefighters are going to save their asses. Living in a PC world where you can't really speak your mind have these dichotomies.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

I seem to recall Beatrix Kiddo being on the receiving end of some pretty nasty violence that left her in a coma.

BTW, I saw plenty of women at the theater when I saw Rogue One.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

...Beatrix Kiddo being on the receiving end of some pretty nasty violence ...
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Beatrix Kiddo, was also an evil paid assassin, therefore a pretty nasty b!tch. Is that why you always bring her up, because you relate to her?

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] leybadana 8 years ago

It's true ladies, Men are our Masters. smh
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TZTM---The Jews don't own everything, the Arabs won't let them.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Most males are violent worthless cretins.
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Most man-loathing, butch bull dykes are worthless cretins too. I guess you and men fit into the same mould too, although I doubt any man would care to be cramped into the same vile space as you.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Human males are the most violent, evil, depraved creatures to ever walk the face of the Earth. You might want to get off your high horse. Most males are violent worthless cretins. Only a small percentage of them do any good.

Who told you this, toots? The voices in your head?

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Hestia Rose, you and Weedinator need to go see mental health professionals. It's not healthy to hate on an entire gender. Both of you have very warped views of the opposite sex.

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[–] justair 8 years ago

Stop defending them Ruby. Too many worthless men become deluded, depraved misogynistic idiots like ...

Give us some due.. When it comes right down to it thru-out history men do the things they've done not because women can't do it but rather....because we are expendable. Your not... but we certainly are not worthless. Some will talk it up especially on forums like this but well.. hey that's seen by both genders.

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

Your not

BS. And even if it's true it doesn't stop men from treating us like garbage. I'll give men "credit" when they grow up and stop bullying women around.

[–] justair 8 years ago

Men and Women treat each other like garbage sometimes. It Happens everyday to millions of us) I don't think either gender has a monopoly on it.. (even say in the middle east where there is a decidedly different social structure)

But again that works both ways. If all you know is bad guys well.. damn.. sorry to hear it. All I know is in 20 years online I've never called anyone worthless (let alone the majority of their gender) so I zeroed in on your post and commented. Nothing personal btw.. just rubbed me the wrong way as your phrasing suggested you meant it.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Men and Women treat each other like garbage sometimes. It Happens everyday to millions of us) I don't think either gender has a monopoly on it.. (even say in the middle east where there is a decidedly different social structure)

But again that works both ways. If all you know is bad guys well.. damn.. sorry to hear it. All I know is in 20 years online I've never called anyone worthless (let alone the majority of their gender) so I zeroed in on your post and commented. Nothing personal btw.. just rubbed me the wrong way as your phrasing suggested you meant it.

Wait, in the Middle East men don't have a monopoly on treating the other gender like garbage? What are the horrible things Middle Eastern women are doing to men that equals the horrible things Middle Eastern women put up with? Throughout human history, women put up with a hell of a lot more garbage from men than vise versa. Men were never denied rights for simply being men.

As for the internet, for every Hestia Rose, there are a whole bunch of Weedinators.

[–] justair 8 years ago

As for the internet, for every Hestia Rose, there are a whole bunch of Weedinators.

I don't know about that. I try not to label people.. and really have no idea if the person on the other end typing back is a male or female. Especially on here where some seem to relish in getting you all riled up.

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

You're just not paying attention. There is not NEARLY as much misandry as there is misogyny. Men regularly start misogynistic discussions on boards like these. It happens ALL. THE. TIME. Very rarely will you see a woman start a discussion just so spit all over men. I've been on this board for awhile and pretty much the entire board, at one time, consisted of woman bashing.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

There is not NEARLY as much misandry as there is misogyny.

True. Take the Middle East for a modern example. It even has governments that back up their culture of misogyny. No where today or in history has there been a culture of misandry. In India and China, they have woman shortages because so many female fetuses were aborted for not being the preferred gender. As for the West, at least we only have to put up with annoying anonymous woman haters on the internet.

BTW, Hestia Rose, men are the same species as women.

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

As for the West, at least we only have to put up with annoying anonymous woman haters on the internet.

Many men in the West would love to see women oppressed again. It just so happens that equality is the dominating social ideology right now, but don't kid yourself into thinking that could never change. If you want to see the true nature of the human male, just look at history. Tigers don't really ever change their stripes. That's why I think women are such fools for trusting these savages. Speaking of female shortages in India, I once talked to an Indian woman that supported it because she felt it was better for baby girls to just not exist at all, because they would only suffer in such an anti-female society. There are now 15% more men than women in India. Millions of baby girls have been aborted, and women are pressured by their husbands to have a son (they suffer if they don't) This is the kind of screwed up sht that men are responsible for. To trust these things is pure foolishness, but it's your choice.

[–] justair 8 years ago

Many men in the West would love to see women oppressed again...

I don't know any..

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Many men in the West would love to see women oppressed again...

I don't know any..

An anonymous guy on YouTube the other day told me that a woman's only source of happiness is under a man's authority. Do you think this same guy would say this if he wasn't anonymous? And I can't tell you how many times I've seen guys online say women should never have gotten the right to vote. Another guy on the Skeptic.com forum was booted off for praising how extremist Muslims treat their women, and he kept referring to, "American Pig Women." My guess is that he was a MGTOW (men going their own way). I've seen guys online (wishfully) predict that after an apocalypse, women will go running back to the kitchen. I assume they don't mean a zombie apocalypse. I've read all kinds of crazy misogynistic $hit on the internet, that wasn't even inside the Manosphere.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

And the tragedy is that you don't understand why men are getting so bitter. And you don't care.

That's the problem. We're human beings, not human doings. We didn't create the hashtag "KillAllMen." I don't care what other scumbags do. You have no right to say that kind of despicable sh!t about MY SEX as a whole. But you don't care. Everything is about women and women's suffering. FCK MEN. That's the problem.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Everything being about the Femosphere though gets a free pass though, doesn't it! The whole world is femme saturated and yet you deluded seem to think that men take control over women and don't pay them the same mind they do other men. You don't care about males needs, as you see them as expendable and disposable over your own "precious" gender. You are biased and prejudiced against males, yet are desperate for them to be a part of your life. Why is that, if they represent so much misery for feminist agendas and how appallingly you think they have treated women through the ages? You also don't care for how men oppress other men, it all becomes about females being the more important and needy gender and women make sure men are aware of this.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

They won't stop men from mistreating each other... as long as men are doing it for the good and prosperity of women.

[–] justair 8 years ago

An anonymous guy on YouTube the other day told me that a woman's only source of happiness is under a man's authority.

YOU don't even know if it's a guy.. their trolling you to get under your skin for whatever reason.. I do not know.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Whomever it was is partly right. Liberated women can be the biggest, self-serving, selfish a$$holes in the history of the world. They would sell their own kids if it got them momentary pleasure. I've seen how "liberated" women act toward men and their children. Ever hear of ghetto feminists?

Ok. You have freedom. But who is going to act or decide for the good of their children, who are clearly in the hands of someone who cares more about themselves than their kids' future...??

If that's what liberation does to women, if that's how children are going to be treated by liberated women, they need some guidelines and boundaries. I don't want all of society to collapse just because a few spoiled bitches want more and more and more freedom, ignoring "patriarchal" concepts of logic, reason and responsibility.

These women are proving that they can not be trusted with absolute freedom. The future of our civilization is at stake.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

YOU don't even know if it's a guy.. their trolling you to get under your skin for whatever reason.. I do not know.

All the misogyny coming from the Manosphere is quite real. Sexism has been present in many, if not most, cultures. Look at the Middle East, look at the woman shortages in India and China, read the Mosaic law code in the Bible. Do you really think the West could be totally rid of woman hating?

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

I think Western men are more enlightened, Hestia Rose.

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

lol no they aren't. The red pill, MRAs, MGTOW, the manosphere in general are comprised of WESTERN men. Many of them are just itching for western women to get some kind of comeuppance for not being subservient little flowers for them. They are NOT happy with women having equality. Just look at the things men say when they are anonymous on the internet. It turns into a misogynistic cesspool, and that's because it's a place where men can go to unleash their true feelings. Just because they don't walk around in real life airing these sentiments does not mean they aren't there.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

lol no they aren't. The red pill, MRAs, MGTOW, the manosphere in general are comprised of WESTERN men. Many of them are just itching for western women to get some kind of comeuppance for not being subservient little flowers for them. They are NOT happy with women having equality. Just look at the things men say when they are anonymous on the internet. It turns into a misogynistic cesspool, and that's because it's a place where men can go to unleash their true feelings. Just because they don't walk around in real life airing these sentiments does not mean they aren't there.

True, but they don't represent men in general. Those groups are just a minority, keyboard warriors for the reestablishing of patriarchy, male supremacism.

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

What makes you think they are just a minority? A minority participate in the online manosphere, but lots of men in general might agree with the views they hold.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

If majority of men wanted to take away your rights and simply did not cared about you... they would just take away your rights. There is nothing you could do about it. If men were such a violent *beep* we would just kill every woman who tried to protest and your equality movement would be dead within a week.
Remember that men voted to give women right to vote. So by definition majority of men do not think about women the way you think.
But then again you are so filled with hatred that you probably read SCUM manifesto like a bible.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

True Jakubmike. For equality between the sexes and races to exist, we had to become enlightened. TFA and R1 would have bombed if men in general were as sexist as Hestia Rose claims as both movies have female protagonists engaging in badassery, something that wouldn't have gone over as well several decades ago.

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

If majority of men wanted to take away your rights and simply did not cared about you... they would just take away your rights

And I'm not convinced that won't happen. If you look at our species history it is not the norm for women to have equal status. Maybe if equality can exist for more than a few centuries I'll believe men have truly changed. By then I'll be too dead to care anyway though.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

And I'm not convinced that won't happen.

So men gave you rights and after century they will go "you know what, that was kind of a bad idea, let's take them away" and everyone will just nod and say "yeah, nothing bad with that".
Society likes status quo, men were raised in the world that treat women as equal (or even supreme considering you have all the rights but are not subjects to draft...) aside from small minority there are no major movements that wants to take away your rights (aside from the fastest growing world religion but it is kind of non-pc to talk about).

Maybe if equality can exist for more than a few centuries I'll believe men have truly changed. By then I'll be too dead to care anyway though.

Awesome, so literally nothing can change your mind since you already assumed that all men are evil and even if history proves you wrong you will already be dead so you will never have to acknowledge your own mistakes...

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

So men gave you rights and after century they will go "you know what, that was kind of a bad idea, let's take them away"

Possibly. I don't put anything past the human race. People do a lot of horrible things that completely baffle me.

Awesome, so literally nothing can change your mind

I only consider it a possibility, like I also consider nuclear war a possibility. Believing that it's possible our species could do awful things doesn't mean I'm certain they will. Like I said above...I don't put anything past human beings. Think of the worst possible way to treat a person and somewhere someone will have zero qualms about doing it.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Men aren't subject to the draft either, nor should they be.

As for the fastest growing religion, I'm all for greatly restricting Muslim immigration to the West. They aren't known for sharing Western values, and we don't need to be importing a bunch of misogynists. No, I'm not saying they're all against freedom and equality, but so many of them are.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Men aren't subject to the draft either, nor should they be.

Yes they are, in times of war draft cards are being issued. As far as I know even USA have them, 2/3 of US soldiers who fought in WW2 were drafted.
Women are of course excluded from draft...

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

There hasn't been a draft in decades, and there is no political will to reinstate it. It isn't necessary, and it's just plain wrong.

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

There hasn't been a draft in decades,

Because there was no war with equal oponnent in decades, as soon as it happens draft cards will start flying. It is necessary to keep your forces up when faced with high casualities among soldiers. Just like in WW2, all sides used draft.
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Also I am not saying anything about right or wrong, merely stating facts, men are eligable for draft and women are not therefore women are in privilaged position compared to men in that area.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/we-dont-need-a-military-draft/2013/02/21/fa23acde-76dd-11e2-aa12-e6cf1d31106b_story.html?utm_term=.32dc1b54805a

Opinions
We don’t need a military draft
By Melvin R. Laird February 21, 2013

Melvin R. Laird was secretary of defense from 1969 to 1973 and counselor to the president for domestic affairs in 1973 and 1974. He represented Wisconsin in the U.S. House from 1953 to 1969.

Just over 40 years since the United States implemented the all-volunteer military force, some are once again suggesting that a draft force could be better. I managed development of the all-volunteer concept that President Richard Nixon endorsed, and I believe that returning to the draft would be a mistake. No president has advocated a return to conscription, Congress does not support it, and the American people would not stand for it — all with good reason.

The all-volunteer force has surpassed expectations. After more than a decade of sustaining combat operations in Iraq and Afghanistan while meeting other global obligations, our force has been successful by virtually every measure. The “total-force” concept, which I conceived, more closely links active-duty, National Guard and reserve military components. The volunteer military is more intelligent, fit, committed and representative than ever. Moreover, it has proved more cost-effective than a draft force.

Each year about 160,000 young men and women volunteer for active duty. An additional 110,000 volunteer for the reserves and the National Guard. Twenty-five thousand others are commissioned as officers, according to Defense Department data. Last year marked the 27th consecutive year in which the Pentagon has exceeded its quality standards for active-duty recruits. Half of all recruits are in the top two of the Armed Forces Qualification Test’s five categories, Defense Department personnel data show, with only 1 percent in the lowest. In the last year of the draft, only one-third of recruits were in the top two categories, with 25 percent in the lowest. Whereas only three-quarters of youths nationwide graduate from high school, all military recruits are required to have graduated. (During the last year of the draft, only half of recruits were high school graduates.)

[–] whigmus3 8 years ago

That's a great link and an interesting lead.

Something to consider, however, the scale of our wars since the mid 70's has been very, very, very small compared to that of the major wars of our history. Should another event like WWI or WWII break out, I wonder if the all-volunteer numbers would be sufficient. I'm sure that many, many people would volunteer to step up and serve. I'm also sure that many people that would have volunteered during conditions like we've had over the past 40 years would not do so if a large war broke out. Would the added boost be enough - especially with that added decline?

I have no numbers, studies or links, but just a gut feeling that IF a major war erupted, sadly, we'd need a draft.

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[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

Admirable, and thank you for this, always happy to learn something new.
But why it is so hard for you to admit that women being excluded from draft is privilage?
I am not disputing whether draft is good or bad on moral level. I would be certainly very happy if it was never needed again. But on principal Ruby would you agree that being excluded from draft is privilage?

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Jakubmike, it's wrong to force someone to fight, even die. That is taking away their rights (not privilege). It's involuntary servitude, which is prohibited by the 13th amendment.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Did you read Jakubmike's post?? There is NO PRIVILEGE in war. No privilege. It is a privilege however to not have to go to war. If men held women back from dying in the hellfire of war, it was for their own fcking good. So, right there, the act of denying women service in war is an example of men saving and protecting women's lives. I wish you feminists would stop twisting that necessary and romantic action into something evil.

To put it bluntly, if you ladies are terrified of rape, what in god's name makes you think you can handle real warfare?

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Luke, you praise men for going to war, but ignore the fact that it's men who cause the war. It's like you want the male gender to be linked to the heroes, but not the villains. And there is nothing romantic about war.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

If we have marches of hateful women like we had the other day, don't be surprised if things get nuts. There is already an insane empathy for men dying in the workplace or slaving away at dirty jobs that these women don't even think about. They have absolutely no love or respect for the petty underclass men doing all the hard, ugly labor they wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. They want to keep men down, serving them while they parade around trying to knock other, more powerful men down with guilt and shame. Things are getting out of control, because men are realizing that there is nothing in it for them serving these spoiled brats.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

By then I'll be too dead to care anyway though.
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😄 You're alive and nobody cares about you, so it's not going to make any difference. Things are what they are and you will always be a man-hating, self-loathing, butch bull dyke lesbian. 

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] jakubmike 8 years ago

That is taking away their rights (not privilege)

But it is privilege not to have your rights taken. I mean if I could vote and you could not would it be privilege for me? Yes it would.
To be free from something that is mandatory for others is the very definition of privilege.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that being free from draft is privilege? It kind of looks like your kryptonite, you just cannot admit that women may have privilege that man do not have.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Jakubmike, it's a right not to have your rights taken away, unless you commit a crime. I wouldn't want to say not having your house robbed is a privilege. I think the word, "right" is a more appropriate term, and our government should never again engage in interfering with people's constitutional rights. We own our bodies, the government does not. The draft is involuntary servitude, which the 13th amendment prohibits.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

If we have marches of hateful women like we had the other day, don't be surprised if things get nuts. There is already an insane empathy for men...They have absolutely no love or respect for the petty underclass men doing all the hard, ugly labor they wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. They want to keep men down...men are realizing that there is nothing in it for them serving these spoiled brats.
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I wish men would start to realize that there is nothing in it for them, but the power of the pussy for "straight" men is becoming their downfall and females are playing up on this aspect of their sexuality. These fickle, pink adorned marching women were just coming across as an absurd caricature of what femininity and feminism is promoting and representing. What they really want is MORE ATTENTION. They want men to take a back seat, when Western women are already afforded a massive piece of the pie in our communities and societies. It is above equal share to what many men are getting to keep things running, that they don't care about.

Trump being the POTUS, is not going to make a darn bit of difference to the so-called phony agenda of reproductive rights. Females are still going to be getting pregnant and some are still going to be getting abortions and some will still talk about abortion rights, regardless of whatever "gag" orders they fear are restricting their basic "human rights". And amongst all of this "specialness" and "frivolity" and "shortsightedness" and "childishness" they project, they will still and always need men in their lives to help them through their phony pink drenched and physically weaker lives, and will still continue to feel insecure and envious of the freedoms they feel men possess over them. Their feminist agendas are NOT IMPORTANT in the bigger scheme of things.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

I wish men would start to realize that there is nothing in it for them, but the power of the pussy for "straight" men is becoming their downfall and females are playing up on this aspect of their sexuality. These fickle, pink adorned marching women were just coming across as an absurd caricature of what femininity and feminism is promoting and representing. What they really want is MORE ATTENTION. They want men to take a back seat, when Western women are already afforded a massive piece of the pie in our communities and societies. It is above equal share to what many men are getting to keep things running, that they don't care about.

I'm straight. Frankly, I'm beginning to wonder if I want sex at all anymore. They're making something as beautiful as sex out to be hostile and scary. It's no wonder so many women don't want sex, why they're saying "No." And now this march BS. What the fck was the point? To show that all women are now hostile, bitter, man-hating bitches? Good job, ladies. Like you said, Rascal. They're not giving men ANYTHING of value anymore. So why on Earth do they think that demonstration will have any effect?? That's the only reason the feminist marches in the 20s and 70s worked, because they had something to threaten to take away from men. If you don't have that trump card - no pun intended, you're up sh!t creek without a paddle.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

They are the ones that need a good paddling for being spoiled and selfish brats. Except in the eyes of many other females, they just made a laughing stock of themselves by most males I would say.

Being straight, is a different dynamic and sociology, as opposed to being gay. Unless the female is a respected elder\guru, matriarch or other family member, females are being sexually objectified by straight guys, and wanting sex is the first and foremost reason why a heterosexual male would even want to get with them in the first place. The female sexually objectifies males too—of course they would go into denial about this—and many will look for potential ideal men, to be the father of her children. The problem is, the masculine and feminine are being perceived as an external extension in a heterosexual relationship and the differences in gender can create conflict and lack of understanding. Gay guys are not objectifying women sexually, and that can then be seen as threat to females, as the only tool they have to keep men lapping at their feet is rendered useless. That is why Ruby Ruthless thinks that there is something wrong with "gay" guys, because she can't manipulate or use them with her b!tch sexuality.

Females don't mind if a guy is paying her attention as long as she is interested. If not, they suddenly become a creep. I have had females paying me attention and yet I am not interested in what they think I should be. Does that make them creeps as well? Does a "straight" guy like yourself feel insecure when a gay guy is objectifying him and does that make the gay guy a creep too? I guess if we don't wish to be perceived as creeps, just give up sex altogether. 😄

Don't eat the whole ones!...Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Men do not have to hold certain or specific views, just because YOU think they should. You are jealous of men, because you were not born one and whatever evil you think males are to blame for in this world, you need to take a darn good look at your own foibles and ignorance regarding your own attitude towards the male gender. Your hatred runs deep Hesita, and at the core of that is the hatred you feel for yourself. MEN ARE NOT TO BLAME FOR YOUR LIFE OR THE WAY YOU FEEL ABOUT YOURSELF, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T PAY YOU ANY ATTENTION. Perhaps it's because of your vile and nasty personality, that they avoid you and if it wasn't for males in society, your life would be even more s<>t than it is now.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Just look at the things men say when they are anonymous on the internet. It turns into a misogynistic cesspool, and that's because it's a place where men can go to unleash their true feelings. Just because they don't walk around in real life airing these sentiments does not mean they aren't there.
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So when you are not on the internet, being the vile man-loathing female creature that you are, are you saying that you DO HAVE the courage of your ridiculous feminist convictions and go around venting your hatred for men in real life? The internet is still real life sweet cheeks, and I could just imagine a mentally ill creature like you standing on a street corner on her soap box—one that would have to be steel reinforced by the way—and reading out vile Valerie Solanas Scum Manifesto to passers by. Yeah, let's just exterminate the male of the species, you sick twisted freak.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

There is not NEARLY as much misandry as there is misogyny.
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When you take into account all the females who are misogynistic towards their own gender, that is what makes it appear so much more prevalent. You are your own worst enemies and yet you still place the blame at men's feet for misogyny. Along with your misandry, females can be the most hateful and spiteful creatures around.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

When you take into account all the females who are misogynistic towards their own gender, that is what makes it appear so much more prevalent. You are your own worst enemies and yet you still place the blame at men's feet for misogyny. Along with your misandry, females can be the most hateful and spiteful creatures around.

That's quite true, Rascal. Women can be very vicious toward each other without the holy influences of feminism, indoctrinating them to fight their natural impulses, fight men. In a more natural state of mind, women compete with each other for mates just as much as men do. It's only after they've been "changed" by the cult that is feminism that they actually start to love each other more than any man.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

It's only after they've been "changed" by the cult that is feminism that they actually start to love each other more than any man.
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Rephrase that Luke, there is a difference. How about start to be "full of themselves", rather "love" each other more?

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Yes, we women can be vicious to one another, but at least women don't send other women off to war for the sake of power and wealth. How many men died so that other men could be more rich and powerful? Way too many.

Look at the worst examples of misogyny today, over in the Middle East. That isn't because of women, it's because of men. Thankfully, here in the West, misogynistic idiots like you have no power.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

...at least women don't send other women off to war for the sake of power and wealth.
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No, they just send the men off to fight and find the power and wealth for them. If you are so into equality, do it yourself. These men have been raised by so-called nurturing and caring mother's, who also expect their son's to act like a "real" man and get warlike and also get with other females to support them in their time of neediness, which is pretty much ALL THE TIME. The homophobia in society gets perpetuated by wicked females such as yourself, who can't stand for men not to be attracted to them. Needy Feminazi!

You just prove the point about how males get treated in society and the expectations that are placed on them by other women and men. They don't get the same allowances made for them. Females don't care how men get treated by either gender, they only care about how they are treated by men, because they think it is all about them and males are here to serve them.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

I am so sick of how you keep separating men and women in these discussions. Ever hear of the white feather campaign?? Women loved the idea of men being their knights in shining armor. They want men to prove their worth. HeForShe proves that. So don't feed me that sanctimonious bullsh!t that women are inherently better people.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

White feather campaign? That was definitely a more unenlightened time. Shaming men for not going to war was a horrid thing to do. I'd punch any bitch who tried to put a feather on my husband.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HeForShe

HeForShe (often referred to as He for She) is a solidarity campaign for the advancement of women initiated by UN Women. Its goal is to engage men and boys as agents of change by encouraging them to take action against negative inequalities faced by women and girls.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

That was definitely a more unenlightened time.
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Women were their own worst enemies then, as they are now. Since it was such an unenlightened time, I wish Feminists would stop bringing up how badly men and society treated them, when Western women NOW have every opportunity available to them. They weren't even treated in the same manner as men were in those "unenlightened" times and they still cried rape and thought it was the worst thing around, when men's lives were still being seen as disposable and expendable over women, and of lesser value.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Ah. I see. So when women treat men badly, they're "unenlightened" but when men treat women badly, it's all due to evil misogyny? Is that how you see it??

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Ah. I see. So when women treat men badly, they're "unenlightened" but when men treat women badly, it's all due to evil misogyny? Is that how you see it??

Enlightenment refers to how a culture treats others. Enlightened cultures have gender and racial equality. There are no second class citizens.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

There are no second class citizens.
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Except for Feminists, who want to use men as slaves and treat them as second class citizens. If there are NO second class citizens, why do you have to be a vile feminist huh?  Or is it that you would still identify as feminist superior, even if you were given the world?

Don't eat the whole ones!...Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Give us some due.. When it comes right down to it thru-out history men do the things they've done not because women can't do it but rather....because we are expendable. Your not... but we certainly are not worthless. Some will talk it up especially on forums like this but well.. hey that's seen by both genders.

It's usually men who make men expendable by sending them to war.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Stop defending them Ruby. Too many worthless men become deluded, depraved misogynistic idiots like Weedinator because they rarely get called on their crap and thereby are convinced they are superior. The common male is about as great as the common chimp. It's an ugly reality check but someones gotta give it to them. Enough is enough.

The likes of Weedinator do not represent men in general. Most men don't see their gender as superior, at least not in the modern West. The Middle East may be quite different.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Most men don't see their gender as superior, at least not in the modern West.
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Most women DO see their gender as superior, especially in the modern West. Most women in the modern West, want men to see them as superior too. Phony hypocrite!

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Yeah. That's because in the last 40 years, you feminists have succeeded in destroying most men's self-respect.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Yeah. That's because in the last 40 years, you feminists have succeeded in destroying most men's self-respect.

The Trump men seem to have their self-respect fully intact. Same with all the men they surround themselves with. Male CEOs, business leaders, other political leaders, all the guys who work hard to care for their families, etc. Only loser guys don't have their self-respect. They blame feminism because they don't want to look at themselves in the mirror.

[–] whigmus3 8 years ago

Male CEOs, business leaders, other political leaders, all the guys who work hard to care for their families, etc. Only loser guys don't have their self-respect. They blame feminism because they don't want to look at themselves in the mirror.

Pretty much this, yeah.

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[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Male CEOs, business leaders, other political leaders, all the guys who work hard to care for their families, etc. Only loser guys don't have their self-respect. They blame feminism because they don't want to look at themselves in the mirror.
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Are you aware of how insipid, insane and absolutely "ridiculous" you sound. You act as though females always work hard and need a man to be by her side and if he doesn't live up to your twisted expectations of what you think a man should be, he is a loser. Feminism, is not that important in the grander scheme of things "loser". It can be promoted by women to be made to look that way, as it is used as a ruse and distraction from what is really important. I guess you find it difficult to look at yourself in the mirror as well, or if you do, it only goes so far as skin deep, because you're afraid of what you might really find if you look deeper. That doesn't surprise me, you superficial, male-using phony.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

So basically what you're saying is if guys don't do this, this or this according to your rules and guidelines, we're not worthy of your pvssy, your time or energy or life in general? Is that what you're saying??

Damn. What happened to happened to love someone for who they are??

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

So basically what you're saying is if guys don't do this, this or this according to your rules and guidelines, we're not worthy of your pvssy, your time or energy or life in general? Is that what you're saying??

Damn. What happened to happened to love someone for who they are??

Notice the, "etc." There are somethings we should be in order to be worthy of mating, and therefore procreating. Responsible is one of them. All parents should be self-respecting, responsible individuals.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

And that's what the "patriarchy" is all about. Women have to be worthy of their mate too, dear. It's a give and take thing. You can't just expect men to devote their entire lives to you because some women in Africa, some strangers are being raped. By being worthy, you actually have to respect and honor the wishes of men. BUT you can't apparently, given how much hate you show the MRA.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

And that's what the "patriarchy" is all about. Women have to be worthy of their mate too, dear. It's a give and take thing.

First of all, patriarchy is about men being in charge, and we don't need that. Also, what was it I said?

There are somethings we should be in order to be worthy of mating, and therefore procreating. Responsible is one of them. All parents should be self-respecting, responsible individuals.

If you can't figure out that I meant both genders, then you need better reading comprehension.

By being worthy, you actually have to respect and honor the wishes of men. BUT you can't apparently, given how much hate you show the MRA.

Who is the leader of the MRA? Paul Elam, the woman hating deadbeat dad.
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[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

First of all, patriarchy is about men being in charge, and we don't need that. Also, what was it I said?

I don't know about that. Liberated women are proving to be very hateful and psychotic without the influence of men to keep their feel on the ground.

If you can't figure out that I meant both genders, then you need better reading comprehension.

Yeah and you're ignoring the male perspective if you want to demonize the idea of a man taking charge. You're demonizing the idea of trusting a man with your life and happiness. If men distrusted women like that.... Yikes!

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Most Western women aren't hateful and psychotic, Luke. Only a misogynist would believe that.

And what are you talking about demonizing the idea of a man taking charge? Han Solo took charge in TFA, a movie and character I love.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

And what are you talking about demonizing the idea of a man taking charge? Han Solo took charge in TFA, a movie and character I love.

Yes, that's a MOVIE. It's not real life.

You're going to allow a man like this supposed husband of yours to order you about if it means keeping you alive??

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Luke, I have no more problem with a male boss than a female boss.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Sooo... you don't have a husband or you like to consider your husband your "boss"?? You're just losing credibility left and right here.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Sooo... you don't have a husband or you like to consider your husband your "boss"?? You're just losing credibility left and right here.

I have a husband, and he's not my boss.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

If that's true, why don't you answer my initial question?? If your husband yells at you, commands you to do something if it meant saving your life - as he needs to because your life is important to him, are you going to do what he says?

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

If that's true, why don't you answer my initial question?? If your husband yells at you, commands you to do something if it meant saving your life - as he needs to because your life is important to him, are you going to do what he says?

If my husband yells, "GET OUT OF THE WAY!" so I don't get hit by a truck, of course I'm going to get out of the way. It would be the same with the reverse.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

LOL. I wish you would just fess up. You don't have a husband and you know it. No man has that little self-respect.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

LOL. I wish you would just fess up. You don't have a husband and you know it. No man has that little self-respect.

I do have a husband and we both believe in gender equality. Neither one of us tells the other what they can and cannot do. If you don't believe there can be actual long term marriages like that, well no wonder you're single.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

I do have a husband and we both believe in gender equality.
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I bet if he didn't, you would deny him your pu$$y, because that is what a scheming, manipulating and evil homophobic, sexist and chauvanistic sow you are.

Don't eat the whole ones!...Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

I do have a husband and we both believe in gender equality. Neither one of us tells the other what they can and cannot do. If you don't believe there can be actual long term marriages like that, well no wonder you're single.

And that sounds like a perfect feminist fantasy. BUT there's no meat on the bone. You're getting your marriage out of a textbook.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

And that sounds like a perfect feminist fantasy. BUT there's no meat on the bone. You're getting your marriage out of a textbook.

I've been married for 25 years now, you can't get a woman to touch you with a ten foot pole. I know a hell of a lot more about marriage than you do.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Most Western women aren't hateful and psychotic, Luke. Only a misogynist would believe that.
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Most men aren't hateful and psychotic, Ruby. Only a Feminist misandrist would believe that. And what about the other women who don't reside in the West, huh? Of course it's all about your own sequestered little mindset and agenda to passive aggressively undermine men isn't it Ruby Ruthless, so you can have a comfortable gynocentric society in which you want men to provide for you. You only love Han Solo, because you wish you were him, and not some fake and phony sniveling femib!tch like yourself and your bland and "unrealistic" role model Rey.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

To quote Rascal:

Most Western women aren't hateful and psychotic, Luke. Only a misogynist would believe that.
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Most men aren't hateful and psychotic, Ruby. Only a Feminist misandrist would believe that. And what about the other women who don't reside in the West, huh? Of course it's all about your own sequestered little mindset and agenda to passive aggressively undermine men isn't it Ruby Ruthless, so you can have a comfortable gynocentric society in which you want men to provide for you. You only love Han Solo, because you wish you were him, and not some fake and phony sniveling femib!tch like yourself and your bland and "unrealistic" role model Rey.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Who is the leader of the MRA? Paul Elam, the woman hating deadbeat dad

Paul has his short-comings... as ANYONE does but he does not hate women. NO ONE who identifies as a Men's Rights Activist actually hates women. The fact that we hold certain women accountable for their sh!tty actions toward men does not mean we hate women.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

So, why did you create a new account Lukelovesfilm? Too many people put you on ignore?

[–] Azureth 8 years ago

RubyHypatia I have a question: What are your thoughts in women being allowed in combat now? If in the worst case scenario they were to be captured, as especially bad as that would be for women, do you think it should be viewed any worse than a man that is? You look at the Jessica Lynch fiasco and not only was she getting 24/7 media coverage but freakin' seal team six went in to rescue her!

Not that I am saying she shouldn't have been rescued but had she been a man you wouldn't have seen that at all. Because it was omg a WOMAN!! She got all this ridiculous coverage, all the while men that get captured certainly don't.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Here's an article with logic and reason to combat Ruby and her BS:

http://www.inside-man.co.uk/2016/05/08/masculinity-isnt-toxic-attitudes/

Masculinity isn’t harmful or toxic, just our attitudes to it including the title of this debate! The implication is that masculinity requires genetic or social engineering! The masculine gender is the only group not protected by political correctness – the only group whose identity we can publicly demonise and get away with it – we don’t ask women, homosexual or disabled people or faith or ethnic groups to change who they are – we celebrate their identity – but we never celebrate things masculine – even Shakespeare is never celebrated for his gender – soldiers are never thanked for their gender — we only ever see the bad side of masculinity.

Even if masculine gender was just socialisation – males are raised largely by female adults – so what would that tell us about femininity and the origins of masculinity?

Our freedom and democracy is based on much male sacrifice. Even at the height of “patriarchy” soldiers without the vote had to die in WWI because of their gender – the Battle of the Somme was near enough exactly a century ago – think Baldrick not Lord Melchett! – we never celebrate the gender of all these soldiers – and on the Titanic the average male survival rate was 20%, but for females 74% — so masculinity has always been about protecting women and children even at times of so called “male privilege”.

Society to this day tolerates massive inequalities in risk, harm and death to males: There is an “empathy gap” — work related deaths are 97% male, homelessness 84%, addiction 75%, life expectancy — a four-year gap, suicides are 78% male, without any gender policy or strategy to tackle these issues. This “male gender blindness” reflects the assumed role of the male as protector. Working class male life (builders, soldiers, servicemen, miners, deep sea fishermen, bin men) carries on as before, unchanged – we all depend on it – it protects us and the risks are necessary.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Azureth, there are times when you just have to send the big boys in. What I remember about Lynch is that her group made a wrong turn, which is why they were captured. Women were needed over there to deal with the women of that country, and of course they should be armed to be able to defend themselves. The media coverage was ridiculous, but then the media was hyping up all it could to get ratings. It was the same with the Gulf War.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Azureth, there are times when you just have to send the big boys in.

That figures as much. They're expendable and unworthy of authority. You are one hateful bitch, you know that Ruby?

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

That figures as much. They're expendable and unworthy of authority. You are one hateful bitch, you know that Ruby?

Funny how you just changed the argument. The big boys being sent in to dangerous situations are there by choice. I'm a big believer in the military being all voluntary. And I'm a big believer in not engaging in unnecessary wars. Men have been dying over in the Middle East because of other men. Look at your own gender to see men being expendable.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

From the person who refuses to see when men sacrifice themselves for their women...? LOL.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

From the person who refuses to see when men sacrifice themselves for their women...? LOL.

What percentage of men have sacrificed their lives for their female romantic partners? You act like it's a common thing, it is not.

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

It's not common to a delusional misandrist, I'm sure.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

There are somethings we should be in order to be worthy of mating, and therefore procreating.
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But it is all a biased one way arrogant street with you Ruby Ruthless. You think that the male should be worthy of the female, for allowing him the use of her pvssy and that you can do and get away with whatever you want to, because of how "special" and "precious" you think your gender is. How about showing some gratitude and appreciation for the man's d!ck, and actually being thankful that a man has actually shown some interest in your fake and phony feminist ass.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] whigmus3 8 years ago

So basically what you're saying is if guys don't do this, this or this according to your rules and guidelines, we're not worthy of your pvssy, your time or energy or life in general? Is that what you're saying??

Damn. What happened to happened to love someone for who they are??

Consider the irony of your statement.
People do the things they do because of who they are. Choices are a product, in part, of the content of one's character. Actions are the result of choices. So, yeah... if a person doesn't do things that the opposite gender finds appealing, then that person is not worthy of the opposite gender's affection and devotion.

In short, loving (or not) someone for who they are.

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[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

Consider the irony of your statement.
People do the things they do because of who they are. Choices are a product, in part, of the content of one's character. Actions are the result of choices. So, yeah... if a person doesn't do things that the opposite gender finds appealing, then that person is not worthy of the opposite gender's affection and devotion.

I get that. But what you don't understand is that it works both ways. The needs of men have to be met too. If that means men want retain some measure of the dignity that their grandfathers had after WW2 - if these women actually loved men, they would be happy to allow it. But no. They would sooner call those men insecure, archaic or dangerous than accommodate their needs. Do you see men doing that to women?? How do you know women didn't want to be housewives instead of out in the dangerous, filthy wild, risking the baby growing in their bellies? Because that's what feminists told you?? LOL. They'll say anything to suit their agenda. But we're talking about an ideology that ignores basic biological impulses... found in most mammals. Males are always protect of the females. Females are always protective of their offspring. They all have their own roles. Females have nesting instincts. Males are naturally more aggressive. Neither are better than the other. No matter how much feminists want to change things, they can not change the fact that humans are also animals (a higher form of primate).

You know what really bugs me? It's how much more loyal and devoted male and female dogs are to each other than modern men and women.

[–] whigmus3 8 years ago

I'm not sure why you think I don't understand this.

I wasn't commenting on the roles of either gender in society - by today's standards or otherwise.

My comment was about how your statement seemed to suggest that a person (man or woman, for that matter) has no right to judge the appropriateness or worthiness of a potential love interest (read; mate) based off of their choices and actions.

I don't disagree with you that there may be some who seem to endeavor to establish a new societal norm such that individuals are interchangeable regardless of actual biology. I do think, however, that these individuals are far more likely to be a vocal minority and that the more reasonable advocates are people who want to see society shifted such that everybody is enabled to achieve all they can based on their ability and industry - not inhibited by stereotypes. But that's just my take on it...

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[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

You know what really bugs me?

No, please tell us.

It's how much more loyal and devoted male and female dogs are to each other than modern men and women.

You know why Prohibition happened? Because husbands/fathers were spending their money on alcohol while their children were going hungry, the wives were powerless to stop it. At least that's one of the reasons.

[–] Weedinator 8 years ago

Both of you have very warped views of the opposite sex.

I merely stated facts which prove that in general, men are more intelligent. For you to refer to this as a 'warped view' speaks volumes of your typical irrational thought behavior.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

I merely stated facts which prove that in general, men are more intelligent. For you to refer to this as a 'warped view' speaks volumes of your typical irrational thought behavior.

I have backed up my claim with evidence, which you chose to ignore. But I will cite it again.

The Smarter Sex? Women's Average IQ Overtakes Men's
http://www.livescience.com/21647-men-women-iq-scores.html

The Smarter Sex? Women's Average IQ Overtakes Men's

Who's smarter: men or women? Judging by IQ scores alone, the answer used to be men. In fact, the gap between men's and women's performance on IQ tests has long ignited questions about the test's fairness. But now, women appear to be beating men at their own game: For the first time in history, they score higher on IQ tests.

The new finding comes from James Flynn, a New Zealand-based intelligence researcher who has tracked worldwide fluctuations in IQ (or "intelligence quotient") scores for decades. Flynn said women's IQs have lagged behind men's for about a century, at times by as many as five points. But they have now closed the gap in all the countries that Flynn analyzed, and have even gained the edge in this battle of wits.

"Over the last 100 years, everyone in the developing world has been gaining about three IQ points, but women have been gaining faster," Flynn told ABC News. "This is the result of modernity. In every country where women have an equal chance of modernity, women have caught men [in IQ testing]."

[–] lukemm-90850 8 years ago

The Smarter Sex? Women's Average IQ Overtakes Men's

Who's smarter: men or women? Judging by IQ scores alone, the answer used to be men. In fact, the gap between men's and women's performance on IQ tests has long ignited questions about the test's fairness. But now, women appear to be beating men at their own game: For the first time in history, they score higher on IQ tests.

IQ tests? Really? The difference in male and female intelligence is how it's distributed. There will be more smart women on a whole. But there are more men likely to be the next Einstein, Mozart, Newton or Hawking. The fact that you ladies want to stop empowering boys from becoming the next life-altering geniuses and solely concentrate on empowering girls is a major motherly betrayal.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

IQ tests? Really? The difference in male and female intelligence is how it's distributed. There will be more smart women on a whole. But there are more men likely to be the next Einstein, Mozart, Newton or Hawking. The fact that you ladies want to stop empowering boys from becoming the next life-altering geniuses and solely concentrate on empowering girls is a major motherly betrayal.

No one is trying to hold boys back. There will be more remarkable men in the future, and there will be remarkable women as well.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

Only very few men really do anything great.

What constitutes, "great?" I think a man who works to financially and emotionally support his family is pretty great.

Love this guy, and Peanut Butter Cheerios.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmuqm1d8HAQ

[–] Hestia_Rose87 8 years ago

What constitutes, "great?"

I was referring to humanity/civilisation changing discoveries. I'm sick of worthless losers (like a certain idiot in this thread) trying to claim greatness based on things that had nothing to do with them.

For example: "Men have always exceeded women when it comes to brainpower: scientists, philosophers, artists...etc.... the great grand majority of history's great thinkers?"

The idiot cherry picks the smartest and most successful men to ever exist and then tries to claim it represents all men. However, the average man will never be anywhere near as great as these handful of geniuses. It's delusion.

[–] RubyHypatia 8 years ago

The idiot cherry picks the smartest and most successful men to ever exist and then tries to claim it represents all men.

Yes, I realize that. Guys like him who do that have no accomplishments of their own to brag about so they take pride in the accomplishments of the group they belong to. He is no doubt a loser who makes himself feel better by looking down on women.

[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Guys like him who do that have no accomplishments of their own to brag about so they take pride in the accomplishments of the group they belong to.
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What are your accomplishments twit? You are playing the same game, but for the female gender. If someone doesn't agree with you, they then become a loser for not being on your biased, warped and selective hypocritical feminist reasoning and agenda. If women are seen as too much trouble, it's because they are.

Don't eat the whole ones! Those are for the guests. 🍪

[–] praisethelove 8 years ago

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[–] john_bolin2002 8 years ago

Wow just wow....
So all the Aliens movies are crap as well?

Never heard any one screaming FEMINISM!! back then?*
But we weren't spoiled Millennials either.
How does it feel to be spoiled and unknowing to all that has come before 2000?

My god a pg-13 Zombie movie what will they think of next?