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Why did the Ceniza brothers forge the page?
Stupid Ending
How did Asa end up under the floorboards?
Is this common in Asian countries???
Part of the story seems like its missing...
Wrapped up a bit too abruptly and cleanly
Am I the only one who feels bad for the Uber-Morlock?
Will the Joker end up Meta???
Why is she 'looping'
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Are you sure this isn't exactly what she wants?
I'm not much further than you are at the time of your posting, but I'm kind of getting the impression that Cheryl knows Leland's nature and knows her family is in exactly in his path.
I could be wrong, but what if she is involved in some aspect of the conspiracy?
Yes...doesn't make a lot of sense...
Except, they aren't aliens...they are demons. That is why they have no technology and can't open doors (you have to let them in).
And the water that the daughter touches isn't water, its Holy Water because she is an angle.
If you go back and watch the movie again, keeping what I've just said in mind, you'll see clues to this all over the place.
Signs isn't a movie about an alien invasion, its about faith.
Typically speaking you are correct...but, and I know I'm splitting hairs here, the Joker doesn't have "bleached" skin and died hair. If that were the case, it would grow out. Bleached skin must be repeatedly bleached or the natural color will return in time. The hair is, obviously, the same. Michael Jackson did NOT have bleached skin...he had a medical condition, confirmed in his autopsy, called "Vitiligo" which causes a reduction of melanocytes in the skin causing paleness, usually in blotches.
I tend to think that is precisely why Nolan choose his "Joker" to use clown paint...because, in order for the Joker's skin to be naturally white (like an albino) or his hair to actually grow green (which is completely unnatural to the human species) the chemical bath he was exposed to would have to have fundamentally changed his body's chemistry or altered him genetically, which is hardly "grounded".
So, while I'm not saying "Meta" in terms of some great gifts or powers...there is something "beyond the normal" in his transformation which would be impossible in Nolan's universe but is perfectly acceptable in a world where half the super powered individuals in the world got their Meta by exposure to something in the environment (radiation, chemicals, magic forces, etc.).
I think I said exactly what I think.
In Batman...the world created by Bob Kane and spanning more than 70 years of stories:
There is a half-man/half-crocodile (not a wrestler with a bad skin condition)
A thousand year old assassin named Ra Al Ghul who regenerates himself in a Lazarus Pit
A creature made of living clay
A frozen man in a robotic suit
Is friends with an alien who is faster than a speeding bullet.
And so many other "Meta" creatures in addition to a Riddler and a Penguin...all of which were considered "too meta" for a "grounded" story.
And...if the clown doesn't have bleached skin and naturally green hair...he is NOT the The Joker.
He is just a thug in grease paint asking you if he has told you about his scars.
I've been speaking up since 2008 when a certain group on the IMDB locked up the Dark Knight message boards with off topic chatter to keep anyone from uttering a word against their "enlightened and perfect movie". For me it was the first time I really saw the ugly side of fandom and the internet...too bad that's just gotten worse over the years.
I can't say I thought Burton's take was the best...I still feel that Mark Hamill's Joker was the best and that carried from the animated series to the video games as well.
But for me it wasn't just the Joker...it was EVERYTHING that Nolan did to the source material. Batman may be a normal, but meta-humans and super science are the foundation to almost every Batman villain in the rogue's gallery and when you remove that you've really removed 95%+ of the villains (not even counting all the "normal" villains Nolan just didn't like like The Penguin and the Riddler).
And its all just heartbreaking because Batman Begins is an amazing (almost perfect) origin story of not just Batman, but the Scarecrow as well. A kind of, "where the weirdness of Gotham starts." Without the "meta" they all just become "humans" and all I could think of while sitting in that theater back in 2008 was that Batman had become just a bad James Bond clone with even worse villains.
To be honest, I found the way the script almost completely avoided the technology or back story reasons kind of positive. That way people can't argue about the plausibility or implausibility of the technology and/or social environment and it gets the story back to "old school" science fiction, were hyperbole and over simplification is used to more easily discuss really poignant social questions... like about personal privacy and if its worth sacrificing to be safer or to reduce crime.
And the social aspects about the show are so completely understood by us already that the only suspension of disbelief you need to make is that, somehow, all humans are attached to this system at birth and the data is stored using some kind of wireless medium (either within us or in the cloud).
Watched it over the past weekend and enjoyed it a lot.
Good acting, interesting story, intriguing mystery...overall, very much worth my time.
My only complaint is that, in my opinion, it ends rather abruptly without a lot of explanation as to what the 'others' are. This is obviously intended by the writers with that intent of "many things in life are never fully explained" and I get it...but I just don't care for it in stories.
Still, I thought it was very much worth my time and I'm glad I watched it.
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