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Same here. This show may be a train wreck but it’s therapeutic too. I’ll watch it because no matter how bad my week has been, this will be worst point of it...and there’s value in that. I’ll watch it because it’s the only show on TV where hopelessness isn’t derived from the zombie apocalypse it depicts but rather the absence of everything that makes a good show. It’s a good place to park my disappointment because I’ll know it’ll be in good hands.
My first thought after seeing that intro with the zombies flying all over the place was if the director and producers couldn't pull off that scene without looking as bad as it did then just don't do it at all. It just takes you right out of the show. And it got much worse during the 'Zombie-nado' scene with the zombie actors clearly hurling themselves against the S.W.A.T. truck (a highly localized downpour of walkers?!?). Again, look at the dailies to see if it works and if not put it on the editing room floor.
So now, rather than another cookie-cutter bad guy enemy, an approaching hurricane is the danger element of the season and they let us see how bad it is right off the bat by flinging walkers around in a scene that looks to have been written by a middle school fan fiction contest winner. If that's the case, here's another one for them: have one of the survivors find a time-traveling DeLorean, go back to the pilot episode, choose another less stupid family, then hope the show turns interesting.
If Alicia were to blame anyone shouldn't it have been Charlie? After all, she's the one that lied her way in to recon the stadium and report back to Mel (which they knew for a fact) then later shot and killed former drug addict and still general annoyance Nick but she got a free ride and fireside Kimchi noodles to boot! Even poor John Dorie didn't rate any fireside Kimchi noodles and he invented the whole camp-by-the-truck thing at the start of the season. But then again, the timeline was so convoluted by the last couple of episodes I had a tough time keeping up or caring. At least the showrunners continued with the time-honored FTWD theme of entire groups of survivors dying en masse while on Madison's watch.
And these people know they go through some dang zip-ties! What with multitude of custody changes even within a single scene they have to go through dozens of packs.
Did they ever explain what her "dark past" was? There was always some speculation that she did questionable things in her past that allowed her to be morally okay with the choices she made during the ZA.
Yeah, it's a perforated metal shield that surrounds the barrel that acts as a heat shield.
Kimchi is essentially cabbage if I'm not mistaken but they were clearly eating noodles that could have been Kimchi flavored, I guess. Kinda reminds me of the barrel guard being called a flash suppressor.
His character was deemed interesting by the show runners and was upstaging the main actors and had to be removed from the show. Just kidding. I hope he makes a return soon.
After last night's show I just don't know anymore. The back and forth for who gets Charlie was irritating mainly because she's yet another throwaway character that was never fleshed out enough to get invested in anyway. Put her in one camp or the other and get on with the show! Why drag it on and on like they're vying for her soul (we don't care!)? And Madison's "Warrior Mama Bear" schtick is getting old. I've said this before but why anyone would allow themselves to be lead around by her is baffling. The entire episode you kept hearing her say how she built the stadium refuge for her kids but all you see her do is hammer away on some lumber while everyone else is doing the building. That little showdown with a badly injured and unarmed Mel at the gate? Yeah, she was quite the warrior there.
They've got all these story lines going on simultaneously but none of them get resolved with any satisfaction. For example, the entire story arc for Mel can be summed up with; he showed up, he sat around grilling hot dogs, he got whacked at a horse track...end of story. And he was the main bad guy for the first half of the season? Procter John? Same thing. So what if the Vultures unleashed a horde on the stadium. The Clark's have a history that, given a little time, they burn to the ground any place they've ever been anyway.
I'll watch the remaining episode for this season and if there's no payoff moment then that's it for me. It took watching one episode of "The Terror" to remind me that good TV is still possible.
Haven't watched TWD yet but if this is better then that's pretty sad. This season has one likeable character and they may have managed to kill him off already (likely not but you never can tell with this show). Things may pick up some after they finally rid the show of the remaining dead weight from the first three seasons (two down...two to go).
Even before the Jeep was the metal roofing panels they put up and that also seemed to attract more walkers for some reason. Like ants, maybe walkers can now leave a scented trail for other walkers to follow. That would also explain why the walkers, despite floating downriver for quite a distance, only came onshore exactly where the cabin was.
As others have said before, the walkers are nothing more than minor annoyances anymore.
I'm guessing the muted colors of the present timeline helps differentiate it from the past timeline and since they switch between the two so often it helps prevent confusion as to what the hell's going on, which isn't a lot. Or it could be more like a representation of the core characters state of mind after whatever happened at the stadium. Either way, I guess if you're going to have Maggie Grace on your show you have to have shifting timelines as a plot device.
Does anyone else ever feel like they're building up to some big "Oh Damn!!" reveal only to have nothing happen and the whole thing fall flat? I just don't understand why they burn through so many story arcs as quickly as they do. But I'll keep watching. I've sat through 'Santa Clause and the Ice Cream Bunny'.....I can make it through this.
Also, for the record, I miss Mercedes Mason. She was an interesting character on the show and a great guest on Talking Dead.
I'm also fine with it. Nick's journey from urban drug addict to farmer was irritating, unrealistic, and plain confusing at times. Remember when the family was at Strand's compound and the pozole woman thought Nick was something extraordinarily special? You got the feeling the writers were going somewhere with that but, as far as I know, it went down in flames with the compound and it's those little start/stops this show does that make it confusing to watch. I've been monitoring these forums since the show started and the one consistent point that most people agree on is the show never was able to get the viewer invested in the main characters (with the exception of Daniel and maybe season two Strand).
When they axed Nick last night I wasn't shocked or saddened but I should have been. I was also indifferent when Travis was killed off but was soooo happy when Chris bit the dust. If Madison is dead and is only shown in flashbacks then so be it. Her ascent to supreme leader is baffling due to the incredible amount of bad decisions she's made over the course of the series. Being strong-willed and stupid is still being stupid but you just drag everyone in your orbit down with you and that's her character's major flaw. I guess the reason no one ever challenges her is because no one lives long enough to call her out.
I'm with you 100% but what else is there for them to do? They blew the entire premise of the show depicting the beginnings of the outbreak by spending so little time exploring that theme before making the show TWD Lite. I know the main characters have their fans but they spent sooooo much of the first three seasons being arrogant, stupid, and murderous that they irritate me to the point of distraction whenever they're on screen. And to this day I can't figure out why the survivors listen to and obey Madison and her brood.
I haven't been watching TWD so I can't expound on Morgan's skills but if you end up getting punked by the Clarks...you ain't the sharpest tool in the shed. And since we just met the other two, only time will tell if anachronistic 1800s-talking cowboy guy and spacey video chick have anything to offer other than old-timey bravado and cliche'd "found footage" schlock, respectively. I guess the real question here is when do we get to see the Clark family continue their murderous wanderings across the country? I'm guessing the writers will portray the family as hardened and seasoned warriors of the apocalypse as evidenced by waiting in the weeds for hours/days on a lonely stretch of road out in the middle of nowhere in case walkers suddenly gain the ability to drive. Surely they weren't out there to ambush fellow survivors (one would hope they got all the survivor killin' outta their system over the course of three seasons).
Here's the season four story-line I'm hoping for: the action starts months if not years after the end of season three's laughable plot and the Clarks are just husks of their former selves yet still retain their magical ability to decide what's best for everyone else they meet. They take anachronistic cowboy dude, spacey vid chick, and played-out-story-from-another-series guy under their wing and get all preachy about saving humanity while at the same time wiping out scores of folk that otherwise would have lived safe, happy lives having not met the Clarks. Eventually, the Clarks devolve into savage killing machines having lost their humanity to the point we, the viewers, no longer root for them (never did). But just before we totally give up on them, something nonsensical happens where they regain a spark of humanity and sacrifice themselves for the sake of all the Earth's children. Yeah...there it is...pure unadulterated pap...FTWD style.
If only the guys over at Rifftrax could get a hold of the first three seasons.
The writers and producers essentially have spent three seasons creating main characters that have no redeeming qualities. For example, they allowed Chris' character to get so irritating that his death was a welcome relief. And the folks that actually are caring and human, like Lola, Efrain and others are quickly steamrolled over by the careless actions of the Clark's and Co. Speaking of which, it seems like at least one Clark is still alive. No one is safe. Those poor saps fetching water along the riverside have no clue what's about to happen to them once Madison decides to stick around.
And for the record, my complaints have nothing to do with the actors. I believe they're doing the best they can in order to make bank.
They may have written her out of the show due to her recently becoming pregnant. I will miss her character too but most of all her appearances on The Talking Dead. She was always a lot of fun.
Speaking of The Talking Dead, I would have never guessed on seeing Lisa Edelstein on the panel.
There's a mid-season review from Forbes in the News, Rumors, and Gossip section of this forum titled "'Fear The Walking Dead' Season 3 Midseason Premiere Review: Madison Ruins Everything" that pretty much sums the series up.
Ya gotta love the final imagery of the ranch in flames and a pantry full of dead folks (most of them by the hand of Stabby McStabski Alicia Clark) while the Clarks ride off to find another 50 or so folks to waste. Kinda like another ranch the Clarks stayed at that wound up burning down. Man, these people are hell on a perfectly fine apocalypse. Can you imagine the abject frustration a zombie horde must feel when it took them weeks to amass and travel to a compound only to find out the Clarks have already destroyed it and killed all the poor schmucks that lived there? Tragic.
Divide and conquer the Clark Family: Ofelia kills Alycia in the pantry, Troy kills Nick, and Walker offs Madison and finally rids the planet of the apocalyptic Manson Family.
I believe he said it. Perhaps it was obscured just enough to make it past the censors.