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As usual, you've pretty much summed it all up, Bill. It's great to have you here. Your posts are always gold and impossible for the zealots to refute.
Yeah, I was a regular there--we even spoke a few times there. Not much, though. I was the one with the Mario avatars.
Great to see you over here--you've always been one of my favorite posters there--right up there with Twisted, Ranma, TJ and some others. :)
I've noticed that this site seems to be picking up a bit. This board even had a few IMDB-type trolls grow on it like a festering boil on a moose's a$$.
Yeah, Jake Gyllenhaal would be another terrible Batman--especially with those bug-eyes. Imagine a bug-eyed Batman with the cowl. O_O
I'd love for both Marvel and DC to knock it out of the park. What a shame that DCCU just couldn't do it. They really should scrap this entire mess and start over but, from all indications, WB seems to be willing to continue shooting out mediocre content as long as foolish people run out to see it.
I've been watching every DCCU movie for free and will do the same for Justice League. These people don't deserve my money.
I just don't get it--you'd have to TRY to make the Justice League look bad and, boy oh boy, did they try hard...
Hello, Twisted. ;) How's it going? It's been a while.
Did I read this right? They're eyeing Jake Gyllenhaal as a Batman replacement? WTF? O_o Jake...Gyllenhaal?
I wish those IMDB icons existed here because I'd use that one with the emoji bashed his head against a brick wall right now.
That is the POINT!!!! God...a lot of people really do this show a disservice with their misunderstandings of it. We're SUPPOSED to find it appalling. That's the whole POINT of it. You really couldn't figure that out?
I'm not trying to be a dick here....I'm just in disbelief that you honestly couldn't figure this out.
To Kill a Mockingbird is an incredible movie, yes. Quite enjoyable despite how tragic it was.
The directors made a point of showing Gus giving Nacho that look. We've all seen enough TV shows/movies to know that SOMETHING will come of that look. And that look wasn't a happy one.
Gus demonstrated once already with Mike that he will not tolerate Hector being killed. He forbade Mike from doing it but allowed Mike to continue messing with Hector's operations.
This wasn't the first time this season that Gus gave Nacho a look either--it happened in episode 4 in Los Pollos Hermanos.
Nacho is extremely intelligent and has demonstrated that, unlike Mike, he is willing to defy authority if he must.
Plus, even with Hector immobilized, Nacho could conceivable continue his side-dealing--something Gus does NOT like (remember Jesse's side-dealing in Breaking Bad and how Gus hated it). Someone as intelligent as Nacho could either be seen as an incredible ally or an incredible enemy to someone like Gus and I'm inclined to believe the latter in Gus' case.
Either way--SOMETHING will come of that look.
Yeah, it was a common staple for Breaking Bad to bring dead characters back via flashbacks, so I'm not surprised. It makes sense to keep Chuck someone involved in the entire series even if only through flashbacks now.
Check Cat's link in a few posts above this. He was interviewed several times and said that he is dead. He even went as far as to say that Gilligan and Gould pulled him over on the road and gave him the "death call" and that McKean was sort of expecting it.
He'll be back for flashbacks but that's it.
Yes, we do. Read McKean's interviews online.
Great! Hopefully, this puts people's complaints to rest. Chuck's exit serves as a catalyst for Jimmy's transformation into Saul Goodman...as we all suspected it would. Makes perfect sense.
I'm not sure how it's done on this site. If it's the same as IMDB, it would be this: [url] [/url]
Yeah, I hate Chuck as well. I agree, though--GREAT acting. I've always loved McKean--especially in The X-Files and Short Circuit 2.
Thanks for the link, Cat. I was too lazy to track one down.
It makes perfect sense for him to be dead, regardless. I'd always figured that Chuck would either wind up committed or dead. SOMETHING had to happen to Chuck to push Jimmy toward Saul Goodman. Jimmy is the kind of person who would blame himself for Chuck's death and let the guilt eat away at him. Such guilt and self-loathing is the perfect path toward Saul Goodman and would explain why Jimmy would morally compromise himself like that: he feels he doesn't deserve to be anything other than the man Chuck perceived him to be. He'll give up on his good guy ways and give in to Saul Goodman as Chuck suggested when he said: "Just embrace what you are." Jimmy will do that both as an "honor" to his dead brother as well as out of his guilt and self-loathing.
And now it all makes sense: Saul Goodman was able to suggest putting hits on people in Breaking Bad. If he was plagued with guilt over Chuck's death and feeling he didn't deserve to be a straight shooter, it would greatly explain why he would dive headlong into Saul Goodman and be the man his brother knew him to be.
This makes me feel even more sorry for Jimmy than I did before. What a tragic backstory! He's going to jump into his Saul Goodman persona almost as a cocoon--a source of comfort. He's going to give up on trying to do the right thing because he feels hopeless.
This is a sad origin story: he becomes funnyman, sleazy lawyer, Saul Goodman, almost out of a feeling of no other recourse--like a refugee from his own guilty conscience. You almost can't blame him at this point. Unlike Walter White, I actually for for Jimmy as he's going through his transformation. This transformation (Unlike Walt's) wasn't one out of ego--it's one out of defeat and guilt. Let's hope for potential redemption for Jimmy at Cinnabon.
Neither the creators nor the actor who played him believe that Chuck meant what he said. That's enough for me.
Read the Michael McKeen interviews. He flat out reveals that Chuck is dead.
You and everyone else in this thread seriously need to read the recent interviews with Michael McKeen. Seriously...
Thank you. I'm sick and tired of this complaint. People who make this complaint must have little to no idea how writing/narrative structure works. You can't just make an entire show about a static Saul Goodman. Saul Goodman is the top of the summit. The show must take a JOURNEY toward that summit. People who can't see all the ways he's become Saul Goodman throughout this show really do it a disservice and obviously don't enjoy/appreciate what they're watching.
You'd think they'd realize by now that Jimmy has been switching in and out of Saul mode all throughout this show. They seem to think that just because we see him in Saul mode all the time in Breaking Bad that he must act that way all the time. Not true. I've ALWAYS thought that Jimmy is still around in Breaking Bad--we just didn't see him. We NEVER saw his personal life in Breaking Bad. Even Gilligan, Gould and Odenkirk have suggested time and time again that Saul is his public persona and that we don't know how he's like when Walt's not there. Even Rhea Seehorn stated in a recent interview that she believes that Jimmy is still there to some extent during Breaking Bad and that we just never saw it since he's always in the office.
Personally, I wouldn't want to watch an entire show of nothing but Saul Goodman as we see him in Breaking Bad. I want layers to his character. That's what makes this show interesting.
Saul had many moments of "Jimmy" in Breaking Bad.
Plus, people seem to forget that we've watched an entire show now where Jimmy shifts into Saul mode all the time and then shifts out of it. Even Odenkirk stated that Saul is a public persona. We NEVER see Saul's personal life in Breaking Bad. We have NO idea what goes on with Saul after Walter White leaves his office or when Saul goes home.
I swear, some people act as if Saul was on the same level of bad/crazy as Walter White. He wasn't. Not even close.
Complaints like these really do the writing of BOTH shows a disservice. If you didn't see Saul Goodman all over Season 3 then you and I must have watched a different show.
THIS complaint again?
Look, I always sound like an ass when I say this to people but really--people should use their common sense more:
The show is about the JOURNEY toward Saul Goodman. What does EVERY SINGLE STORY have? A protagonist. What does a protagonist do? They DEVELOP. They go on a JOURNEY of development. Once Jimmy hits 100% Saul mode, guess what? His journey is complete. What's left after the completion of the journey? The ENDING (IE: Gene and whatever they decide to wrap up with that angle of the story.
This complain from people baffles me. Did you really expect the show to be 60 episodes of a Breaking Bad Saul Goodman? Where's the story there? Where's the development? Where's the journey?
And have you even been paying attention to this show? Jimmy has made HUGE progress toward becoming Saul Goodman: he's getting slimier every season. Those moments you mentioned where he still does good things is NO different than how they handled Walter White in Breaking Bad: you have to keep your protagonist somewhat relatable and redeemable.
And what do you mean by "Saul didn't seem all that caring"? I can think of many instances:
-His disgust with Walter White poisoning Brock and how he said: "You never told me that kid would wind up in a hospital!" and tried to cut his ties with Walt after that. And he reiterated that point to Jesse when he said: "I wouldn't have helped him if I knew what he was going to do! You've gotta believe me, Jesse! I didn't want any of THIS!"
-His personal recommendation that Jesse talk to Andrea in Season 4 and how he watched, almost with envy, as Jesse heads toward Andrea's how to rekindle their relationship. He didn't have to recommend that to Jesse.
-Little things such as when Saul brings Jesse a little "welcome home" cactus house-warming gift in Season 3.
-His whole speech to Walt in "Granite State" about how Walt should stay and face the music and offering advice about how Walt could help his family keep their house.
Not sure what everyone is so confused about here. Anyone familiar with this show (and Breaking Bad) is familiar with the artistic style. We've seen many incidents in the POV of other characters and Gilligan has made many scenes out to be surreal and/or gritty/realistic.
It's as simple as this: she either dosed off or spaced out. No great mystery here.