The vast majority of the songs by the Beatles are overrated, hyped up junk... "We all live in a yellow submarine"..... "I am the walrus"... "Why don't we do it on the road"... "I want to hold your hand"... "Helter Skelter... Utter rubbish.
shareWell I could understand how someone might not enjoy those particular songs. I’m a big fan and I might skip over those as well some days. But “In My Life”, “She Loves You”, “Please Please Me”, “She’s Leaving Home.” I mean come on. Great songs imo.
What’s your favorite band?
I love Run For Your Life, Drive My Car, I'm Looking Through You, Come and Get it, You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
shareThey have a tonne of hype, and maybe the sheer amount of hype makes them overrated, but their innovation, precision, skill, and exploration all make them unarguably one of the best bands ever.
I'd also argue that those aren't their best songs. I still like all the songs you mentioned, but I'd say that Hey Jude, Let it Be, Come Together, Something, Revolution, All You Need is Love, and Eleanor Rigby are all better.
There's a case to be made for the sheer volume of great material that came out of them, as well as the breadth of genres (listen to Honey Pie, Revolution 9, Within You Without You, Tomorrow Never Knows, and I Want to Hold Your Hand and consider how genre-bendingly brilliant they could be).
Don't forget:
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Strawberry Fields Forever
Let it Be
Paperback Writer
Here Comes the Sun
Taxman
Nowhere Man
I Feel Fine
Back in the USSR
I'm a Loser
Ob-la-di Ob-la-da
You Won't See Me
I'm Looking Through You
Devil in her Heart
Just to name a few of my favorites....
If you think about them honestly, they were nothing more than a manufactured boy band. The innovation you speak of was the result of George Martin. If I'm not mistaken McCartney still can't even read music.
shareMcCartney's ability to read music is immaterial-- many of the greatest musicians of all time couldn't read music. Irving Berlin couldn't read music, neither could Django Reinhardt, Erroll Garner...
I get it that you're trolling, but come on... The Beatles wrote dozens of timeless classics. George Martin didn't "manufacture" them anymore than Tony Wilson "manufactured" Joy Division.
Try again. :)
I don't wish to discredit George Martin's contributions. I'm sure, as any excellent producer does, he contributed to the sound. But, he is, remember, an excellent producer, and that means that his task is to assist the band in getting their vision and their sound out there.
If you look at the wealth of material generated by the Beatles (as a band and individuals) without George Martin, you'll understand that.
They were a manufactured boy band for a period in time after Hamburg and their first album started to really take off. Then it was that Epstein was getting them into matching suits and things. But they soon shook that off. It's heavily eroded by the time they're putting out the next couple albums and is banished entirely by Help and Rubber Soul.
no boy band in history ever wrote their own music like the Beatles did. Lennon and McCartney would bring new ideas and material to the studio each morning, and 4 hours later they would have two new hit songs. in 7 years they put out 22 studio albums, 20 of which went Platinum and 2 went Gold. in 7 years they changed styles at least 7 times and mastered them all.
shareWhich I pointed out, yes.
I was more referring to the image that Epstein created. Lennon later spoke with self-loathing of the matching suits and haircuts and the cleaner image. He was a bit resentful, I think, that the Rolling Stones got the "bad boy" image since The Beatles were pretty rowdy in Hamburg.
I can read music. I am certainly not a great musician. I'm sure that goes both ways.
shareHank Williams couldn't read music. Prince couldn't read music. But they are two of the greatest American song writers ever. And McCartney is better than both of them.
shareA: You had to be there.
B: You can find less-than-stellar stuff in any artist's canon.
C: Troll elsewhere
YOU REALLY CANT AND SHOULDNT ARGUE WITH STUPIDITY.
shareOh, Christ here we go. Someone that does not like the Beatles must be a troll, stupid or both.
shareNot liking Th Beatles music is not the same as calling them overrated. You don't like their music, then that's Ok because its your opinion. Considering their influence, their longevity, their critical and commercial success, then calling them overrated is , say we say, silly.
shareName me some of your favorite bands or musicians.
And quit stating your opinion as fact.
stones, Credence Clearwater Revival, The Velvet Underground. The Incredible String Band. The Doors. etc etc proper bands that done proper tours.
shareGood list of course, but remember, they came later.
The Beatles paved the way and influenced many groups after. Sure. The Beatles had their share of “weird” songs, but that was because popular and rock music was dramatically forming and developing from the Beatles early years through their late years. For every of the songs you listed in your original post there are a dozen stellar ones. Plus, many of the weird ones were short fillers, not released etc.
Bottom line, few bands then and now have such a large and diverse catalog as the Beatles did, and I dare say NONE since have influenced nearly as many diverse groups as the Beatles have.
Yep like The Beatles Rubber Soul Album inspired Brian Wilson to do the Beach Boys Pet Sounds album which in turn inspired The Beatles to do Sgt Peppers and so on and so forth through the years.
As Brian May says here of The Beatles for instance: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v15oIktGJOo&feature=youtu.be&t=1257
Plus as far as influence through the years go compare
1966's Beatles Tomorrow Never Knows: https://youtu.be/7UjvdZm-Tu8
With 1999's Chemical Bros Let Forever Be: https://youtu.be/s5FyfQDO5g0
Including John Fogerty:
https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/john-fogerty-talks-about-the-creedence-musical-process-579348
Creedence were very well received in England. For a bunch of guys who grew up loving The Beatles and the Stones, was that mind-blowing?
Oh, absolutely. To go to the Royal Albert Hall and do very well, and to hear people say such nice things, it was incredible. We were accepted by the very people we admired. I think I remember reading something John Lennon said: 'I love Creedence. They make lovely Clearwater music' - something like that.
I met George a couple of times - this was later on, of course. At the Palomino one night, I made my way into the cloak room, and George was hiding in there having a smoke. I said, 'Hi, good to see you,' all that, and he said to me, 'Well, the band really liked your band.' I thought about that later - The Beatles really liked my band. It was like he was back in his 14-year-old shoes relating to my band, probably in our 14-year-old shoes.
Jim Morrison dropped in on the Beatles while they were working on “Happiness is a Warm Gun” at Abbey Road in London. That courtesy call was returned by George Harrison while the Doors were working on The Soft Parade at Elektra Sound Recorders in Los Angeles.
Of that list only the Stones weren't directly influenced by The Beatles and they recorded a Beatles song.
shareMovies like this are what happens when you’re addicted to marijuana and Michael Jackson winds up owning your song library for years because you were too stoned and stupid to claim them.
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They had a few clunkers and experimental songs that didn't hold up, but 90 percent of their stuff is great. No other band has anything close to their range.
shareYeah I go with the 90% is Great thing, especially for its time. About 10% are like experiments that didn't work (and are cringey, such as Oh Bla Di).
Imagine the first time that people heard the following...(would have been mind blowing)...
Tomorrow Never Knows (which is still mind blowing to me today...amazing)
Strawberry Fields
Helter Skelter
We Can Work It Out
I am The Walrus
Glass Onion
Dear Prudence
Etc