these wick movies are ridiculous
what is it that people want to see these movie for? so lame and silly.
sharewhat is it that people want to see these movie for? so lame and silly.
shareThis type of movie is for a specific fan. Just like a Hong Kong kung fu movie only appeals to a specific audience that is what a Wick movie is. The only real problem with this third one is that it has kind of missed the mark. The first one was more possible but implausible in the combat scenes, this one has pretty much moved into cartoon violence land which will kill the movie for some of its core audience.
shareWHat an insightful observation.....
shareAction movies started suffering from choppy cuts and poorly edited action sequences a long time ago. Instead of getting one long combat scene that had to be imagined, practiced, and directed well, we were getting blurry, choppy, close-ups. Actors could be kept in scene instead of stunt doubles and directors could pretend that they were part of what made an action sequence good. This practice metastasized around when the first Bourne movie came out. It was making (most) action movies suck.
The Wick movies do one thing. They deliver superb action sequences. Everyone has been so thirsty for quality action that that is all these Wick films have to do. The story only has to be basic framework for the action.
So if you are not an action film fan then the distinction in quality will mystify you.
The Wick films action is awful. The MI films are way better at action.
shareI'm not an action film fan, but I don't mind a good movie with action in it.
Saw a Wick film recently and didn't take long for me to dislike it, although it looked like it had promise at first, along the lines of Eastern Promises or A History of Violence.
I liked the suspense of the Bourne movies but the fights look like little bits are removed from the film (or the digital representation, I don't have the proper vocabulary) to speed things up and things just don't look very natural to me. The story is intriguing but the fights don't work for me. Doesn't ruin it, just not convincing.
I don't know why Mission Impossible has never caught on with me. I never catch them at the beginning, and the parts I see seem very sterile and uninvolving, but I can't say I've been able to watch any of them thoroughly to assess them properly.
I can accept all the over the top cartoony violence.
Spoilers!
But Wick falling of a building after multiple shots and surviving was ridiculous.
Yes, that was where they really went one step too far. At this point, unless they explain that he is some sort of enhanced human the storey will never make any sense at all. It was difficult enough to have him carrying on after having been shot at various times, but the walking away from a fall that would have killed anyone was just one step beyond. At this point they destroyed any tension in any fight because he is apparently superman and will walk away from anything they throw at him.
shareI wouldn't assume he got up and walked away. Pretty sure one of the Bowery King's men picked him up and strolled off with him. If you saw the end of the movie, you'd know there's no way he could've walked away on his own.
shareYes, he didn't walk away... But anyone that had been as beat up, shot and then plummeted off the building wouldn't have been breathing. That was the problem. In the real world people die falling off a ladder, yet he falls off a 200 foot tall building and survives.
shareIt's unlikely, but it's not impossible. Again, his suit was bulletproof.
shareIgnore the bullets. The problem is if you fall from 200 feet you are going to be traveling at about 85 mph when you suddenly stop moving as your body hits the sidewalk. That's what is going to kill Mr. Wick, whether he has been shot or not. Pretty much like a motor cycle rider crashing into a brick wall at 85 mph with no helmet or anything else. You would expect some very serious damage to the bones in the body and most likely those bones breaking are going to result in arteries inside the body getting severed and then death.
shareUnlikely to survive, but again not impossible. The longest fall without someone dying was a little over 33,000ft. 200 is nothing to that.
shareIf I'm not mistaken the fall you mention was a parachute jumper than landed in mud. In that case a parachute failed to properly deploy, but it did partially deploy which would have slowed down the person to some degree... But the biggest problem is the surface that was hit in the fall. A big difference between mud and concrete.
shareNo, the person I'm talking about didn't have a parachute. There was an explosion in the baggage compartment and the plane the survivor was in essentially fell apart in the air.
shareVesna Vulovic... I'm guessing she didn't land on concrete. An honestly it really wouldn't matter if she fell from 33,000 feet or 1,500 feet as it only takes about 1,500 feet to reach terminal velocity. But it is impressive that someone survived that big a fall... Of course the list of broken bones is pretty extensive and she never did regain the same level of mobility after the fall. I still say Wick would have died unless he had landed in the back of a garbage truck or some other goofy gimmick.
shareThough he didn't actually get shot. He was wearing a bullet proof jacket. The same jacket he was wearing when Sofia shot him earlier in the film.
shareAhh common, think of it as a FPS game, where you don't even need a controller, it's one long cut scene. Then you can sit back and go "I wanna play it again!"
Someone turned god mode on, so what..
haha
Youd be surprised how much people can survive when they fall. Ahd he hit plenty of things to slow down the momentum. Even Mythbusters did this and concluded that you could walk away from a 5 storey fall if you hit something every story like John did.
shareBOURNE SPOILER!!!
.
.
Yes, the "falling and surviving" was much better done in one of the Bourne films.
A lot of the action scenes are well choreographed which makes for great action. I think they have created an interesting assassin world as well. It is certainly over-the-top and not realistic, but the majority of the action is shot quite well. I would at least give the first one a try.
shareAny other movie, as soon as bikers were being strewn across a road, smashing into cars, you'd have an APB out and hordes of cops in pursuit...
Not a single cop.
But this is the fantasy. It's not meant to be realistic, just a frantic mass murder of belief.
And I for one, dig it..
I know it's like the table is the only authority in the Wick universe
share"I think they have created an interesting assassin world as well."
That's the most ridiculous part. It's some hipster dork's fantasy of some sort of secret society where people have laughable rituals, speak in stilted wannabe "old timey" language, have random anachronistic items in use (for no other reason than the hipster dork [mistakenly] thinks it's cool), and despite being a bunch of murderers who view people outside of their secret society as "animals," they've embraced the rest of the world's modern politically-correct feminism (lol).
I always thought of them as a fantasy neo-noir type of film, but the highlight of the films are the action. I understand why some wouldn't like that particular style though.
shareYes, they are fantasy neo-noir. The choreography is stunning, especially in 3. It's art. But yeah, it's not everyone's cup of tea.
shareIn what way has the assassins embraced feminism?
sharetop 100 movie for now...
shareThey're fun, are packed with great action and have an intriguing world.
Not to mention Keanu's embodiment of John Wick as the fearsome assassin who's forced out of retirement is just... awesome.
It's a shame you don't like these movies, but I hope you have other stuff to watch and enjoy :P
The Wick films are good escapism. They are highly stylized and perhaps bit over the top, but very fun to enjoy without thinking too hard. Keanu Reeves needs a certain kind of role to really shine in, and John Wick is that role.
share