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This is pure fantasy. Women aren't heroes or physical combat warriors.


How many women put themselves in harms way to save people? LOL. How many women are tougher and stronger than men?

In this whole "women empowerment" garbage where we constantly get female action stars with them besting men physically and mentally, that's as far from reality as the alien creatures featured in these stories. You don't see women working terrifying jobs or beating people in combat.

It's pure BS and these movies are nothing but social engineering of feminist garbage.

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Ever heard of Joan of Ark?

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Do you mean Joan of Arc?

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Your theory is actually more of a fantasy.

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I hope sexists like you get killed off

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Really? You want sexists to be killed? Isn't that a bit extreme, my little snowflake?

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No, sexist jackass trolls like you can be killed off, and the world would be much better.
The only precious snowflake here is you and your blatant insecurities.

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You should be grateful that men have allowed you to maintain your self-centered, self-serving standard of living thus far.


No one owes an entire gender gratitude. Individuals, yes, but not an entire gender.

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No one owes an entire gender gratitude. Individuals, yes, but not an entire gender.



I have to wonder about the intelligence of some of these men posting here. Are they not aware that the male species if FULL of unintelligent and worthless men? Have they been sheltered their whole lives or something? There is no good reason we are obligated to respect them just for being male. These men are just insecure and want to be admired solely on the basis of being male because it's not something that has to be earned and it's not something that can be taken away. There is nothing great about these guys so they try to convince themselves that simply being male makes them great. It's sad, really.

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I really dislike the word "worthless"   If you can really and truly convince someone that they have no worth than you might as well have killed them because they certainly do not have any reason to live. Man/Woman... don't matter..

Anyway, I was taught from the cradle to respect women.. didn't matter who they were as individuals or what they'd accomplished.  Never really thought about that before.. hmm... anyway not that it matters. We are who we are I guess.

 

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Worthlessness is a choice. People make themselves worthless by choosing to become addicts, criminals, and bigots. Anyone can be a decent member of our species by staying off drugs and other addictive substances, refraining from committing crimes, and showing other people basic respect. Most worthless people can be rehabilitated. It's not necessarily a permanent state.

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Basic respect and common curtesy is not calling others worthless. Like I said.. I don't like the word and I think everyone has worth. Even the people trolling each other on these forums. (..shrug) Anyway I have to go to work. Have a good day.

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I apologize for my horrid behavior.

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I hope sexists like you get killed off
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I think you are sexist, sexist against men and that makes you a misandrist and a chauvinistic sow. Your statement also makes you a violent and disgusting human being. You are also a misogynist for all the females you hate and despise. Females can be the most vile, catty and nasty creatures around regarding their own gender. They then claim that they get slut shamed over men and cry because it is unfair, when females are the biggest slut shamers around about other girls. What a phony hypocrite you are; but I expect you feel you should get a free pass, just for being a "special" and "precious" woman of the earth.

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You would have no chance against a female Israeli soldier trained in Krav Maga.

edit: But I'd say weapon wielding or vehicle operating women are more believable, e.g. a sharpshooter or jet pilot.

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Do they look like Maybeline models?


Yes. Have you heard of Gal Gadot?

"I stooped to pick a buttercup. Why people leave buttocks lying around, I've no idea."

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Do they look like Maybelline models?


I have trained with some pretty hot Mossad operatives before when I was in the marines. let me tell you they were impressive. I was well trained but in a real fight I do not know if I could take one, unless I really used my mass on them. One of them was really good looking and I asked her out, she kind of laughed at me. humbling experience.

That being said, not too many women are like that. Some have potential to get there but for the most part you are right, most women just do not have the bone and muscle mass to be able to fight along side men, not all, but most. Since that is the case it is silly to try to make them all warriors and princess cute at the same time. Breinne of Tarth is a better example of the physic of woman that can fight along side men, and that is because her physic is closer to a man than a woman.

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I know your just an alt-right troll with nothing better to do, but I couldn't resist smashing your narrow little world view.
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It's only natural to have the occasional heroine getting things done by herself. Leia for example. Jyn was surprisingly balanced for her role, unlike Rey, who I agree is a ridiculous feminist creation.

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James Bond, Luke Skywalker, Batman, Daredevil, Captain Kirk, etc. All did ridiculously unbelievable things in action movies, yet no one claimed they were masculinist creations.

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That's because you don't understand the context in which they did those unbelievable things, which is why feminists should refrain from writing.

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ur retarded

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Phisically, there's no doubt that men are far superior to women. We're stronger, faster and more agile, so the idea of a trained man trying to do what Bond and the others do is not too far fetched within their fantasy world. On the other hand the idea of a tiny and fragile 5'6 woman beating the crap out of a bunch of 6'2 trained men is not only implausible, but stupid as well. Is not a matter of sexism, is a matter of pure biology.

Jyn defeats a group of Storm Troopers by herself and yet, she works perfectly as a strong female character. On the other hand, Rey is only a sad feminist cartoon.

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While men have greater muscle mass, I've never heard that they are faster or more agile. And yes, James Bond is very far fetched, action heroes generally are. No one complains about the blind guy beating up a whole bunch of thugs, which is very far fetched. To manbabies, realism is only important when the hero is a woman.

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Are you retarted? I just said that Jyn works perfectly as a strong female character. But I guess that went over your head because your beloved Rey simply doesn't. Again, a man beating another man is not imposible, a fragile little woman beating a man is. Go and watch some videos on Youtube to see what happens when real women try to beat up real men. You won't like it. Or maybe you will.

And yes, men are faster and more agile. Go and watch a basketball, soccer or football game with male players and then with female players, you'll see the diference and you'll see that yes, men are stronger, faster and more agile. Sorry if this makes you mad. After all, you're a feminazi.

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I bet plenty of women can beat your ass, Morris.

Yes, men can run faster, but that doesn't mean their reflexes are better. And as I said, you guys never complain when men in action movies do impossible things. If the action heroes are women, then realism all of a sudden becomes important.

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Maybe they can beat my ass if they're proffesional athletes. But if you put two pro teams, one male and one female against each other, it's pretty obvious who's gonna win.

And of course we care about a female action hero in real life, and that's only because there is no such thing.

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Morris, maybe Jyn has superior fighting skills than most people?

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Maybe she has those skills and she's a way better character than Rey, that's for sure.

They should've swapped'em both so Jyn could live. TFA would be a much better movie with a strong and likeable female character instead of the plain boring Rey.

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Morris, for a boring character, Rey sure has a lot of buzz on YouTube, and you certainly like talking about her.

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What? We can only talk about stuff that we like? Aw, sweetie. IMDB wouldn't even exist that way. Scratch that, the internet wouldn't even exist either. Well, maybe for porn.

And yes, Rey has a lot of of buzz on YouTube, but then again, Justin Bieber and Katy Perry have it too. What's you point?

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Yes Morris, wallowing in the hatred of a fictional character is pleasurable to people like you.

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Why don't you just call him a "misogynist" and put him on ignore? Isn't that what you cowardly feminists always do?

Anyway, professional male athletes are far more capable than their female counterparts. That's why the sexes are separated in Olympic competitions. DUH

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Hatred? Um, no. I just dislike the character because it's plain and boring. Nothing else. Rey has nothing to do next to Furiosa, Sarah C, Ripley or even Jyn. But you can think whatever you want if it makes you feel better.

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Hatred? Um, no. I just dislike the character because it's plain and boring. Nothing else. Rey has nothing to do next to Furiosa, Sarah C, Ripley or even Jyn. But you can think whatever you want if it makes you feel better.


Or maybe you hate that Rey beat Kylo Ren's ass.

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Again, no. I hated the lazy writing throughout the movie, specially in that crappy and poorly filmed scene, that's all. Both characters are awful and that is it.

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To manbabies, realism is only important when the hero is a woman.
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When females become seen as the more disposable and expendable gender like males are; stop whining about the things they don't have and what men don't do for them; stop using men and become more interested in the harder physical and more dangerous vocations that build up our societies, then perhaps they might be given more credibility to their status as film action heroes. As it stands, characters like Rey are just as fake and phony, as self-proclaimed libertine warped feminists like yourself, who are highly insecure in the stronger and more dominant and positive presence of males.

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Sadly, no one bothers to read the facts about how men are treated compared to women. It's all about those poor little girls.

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It always has been and yet they still feel so downtrodden and repressed by men. Where does this delusion stem from?

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The sisterhood is a very manipulative cult. It promises the power of the pvssy while telling everyone with a pvssy that they have no power. Religions aren't as vile and one-sided as feminism to me. At least in Christianity, both sexes are recognized and appreciated as indispensable parts of a whole. BUT feminism tells everyone that women are the greater victims, the greater minds, the more moral, the moral powerful, because of oppression, because of the oppressive way women die in child birth (as if anyone ever has control of that), because everything is 2 times harder for women than men, because women have to sit down to pee, because women have cramps and periods of intense bleeding once a month... which is also not seen and appreciated enough by men. You see how this can really mess with someone's mind?? Victimhood is an easy way to gain power and authority. It's called pounding your so-called oppressors over the head with guilt and shame. And that's great power when all you have the fragile emotions of women.

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Im a female of small physique, and i've been doing Kendo for years, some women do like those kinds of things :).

I won't say im nearly as strong as men, but at least i can hold my own in a swordfight ;)

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The Israelis have some pretty badass female soldiers.

When I did Brazilian Jiu Jitsu I was completely unable to tap out the black belt wife of the instructor if my life depended on it. She would easily take me out if I made any mistakes. I was probably 170 lbs wrestling a 130 lb woman.

When I did boxing there was an elementary/middle school age girl there who famously beat up a grown man who was harassing her.

Women can be strong when they want to be. Now if you want to criticize women who don't want to be, be my guest.



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Well, rolling with the wife of the instructor, you were most likely going easy, even if you didn't realize it. If your life were on the line and you could slam her, punch, kick, elbow, gouge and fishhook her, I'm betting you could have decimated her before it even went to the ground.

Women don't compete with men in MMA for this reason, but they have been known to clean up men in grappling-only tournaments. They simply can't stand and exchange punches and kicks with men.


"Aren't you a little strong for a lady? I'm calling wang..."

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Well, rolling with the wife of the instructor, you were most likely going easy, even if you didn't realize it. If your life were on the line and you could slam her, punch, kick, elbow, gouge and fishhook her, I'm betting you could have decimated her before it even went to the ground.


That's a pretty stupid comment as the woman he was fighting would also have been taking it easy, and not wanting to actually physically hurt him. It if was her life or his in a fight to the death the fight would have been different from both sides, not just his.

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The Israelis have some pretty badass female soldiers.


Do they weigh more than 95 lbs sopping wet?

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Do they weigh more than 95 lbs sopping wet?


The ones I met did probably ranging from 120 to 140, but most still looked really good. They looked slim but had a bit more mass and muscle than the average woman.

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This is just obvious. If this was actually real life, the women would be bitchslapped and sent back to the kitchen.

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