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Why did the villain have to be gay?


What was the point of making King Candy effeminate? Would he have been any less effective a villain had he been straight?

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Gay? Wha...wha...what are you talking about? The character didn't have a boyfriend or show any interest in guys.
He's not shown as straight or gay as it's not important.

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I also didn't think he was gay b/c he reminded me of Ed Wynn. And the actor who does King Candy's voice isn't gay, so why would he be gay? He just sounds silly.

"The hideousness of that foot will haunt my dreams forever."

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because he was a male character trying to take over a girls game... i think living in a girls game would turn any dude a little gay after a while

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You can't 'turn gay'.

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Ed Wynn was gay?

Supermodels...spoiled stupid little stick figures mit poofy lips who sink only about zemselves.

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I just assumed he was your typical charismatic wacko king-slash-cartoon villain who also was overcompensating to hide his true self. I guess I dozed off during the King Candy sex scene though.

So weird how some people see sexuality and race in every single thing.

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Was he gay? I don't believe it was ever mentioned.

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Not having a wife or a girlfriend does not make you gay. Feeling a spesific attraction to the same gender as yourself on the other hand, is what makes you gay. I didn't notice any part in the movie where King Candy seemed to be interested in other males. He didn't show any interest in others at all except for himself. Besides, it was a game with one ruler only, so he couldn't have chosen a queen even if he wanted to. And who should he have picked among the 8-9 year old girls in the game anyway?

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> Not having a wife or a girlfriend does not make you gay.

True. Although things like high pitched lisping voices, flamboyant body language, showy clothes and knowing the names of different shades of pink are all indicators frequently used to connote a stereotypical image of "gay". Even the status of "confirmed bachelor" is a fairly common coded hint.

Anyway, as I already acknowledged further up, I didn't realize King Candy was intended as an homage to Ed Wynn. Even being so, it seems an ill judged choice in my opinion - I'm fairly film-literate and I didn't know, so I'm not sure how young children are supposed to recognize it as such.

> Besides, it was a game with one ruler only, so he couldn't have chosen a queen even if he wanted to.

Since they made up the game and the rules they could easily have included a queen character.

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Well, I really doubt children will question his orientation. Not even I did that.

Since this is animation, "flamboyant body language" is common for characters in general, even if that's not the words I would have used. When Turbo rewrote parts of the game to become a king, he had to pick a shape that both was different from him and one that looked royal. She he invented King Candy with clothes that's supposed to look like they belongs to a king. A "high pitched lisping voice" in an animated movie is something I associate more with a funny character meant for children, not a portrayed of a gay mature man.


He used the word salmon to prevent people from make comments about the pink castle. He took it from Vanellope when he messed with her code. Racing and attention was all he cared about.

And I don't think the video game characters can change the rules of their game just like that.

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Thanks for your reply. Yes, all fair points.

> And I don't think the video game characters can change the rules of their game just like that.

I meant the people who wrote the screenplay made up the game and the rules so they could easily have included a queen character.

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You welcome. Yes, it would have been possible to include a queen, but then she would have to be Vanellope's mother or something, or King Candy's partner in crime (or a kidnapped character from another game which got her memory erased). Maybe even a king who was reprogrammed into a female, but I doubt Disney would have done anything linke that.

Seeing this game, it reminds me about Super Mario, with a little princess racing in her car. The cars in the game is another reason why the king is so small. It has to fit in with the rest, and both Turbo and his car were already pretty small anyway (his car seems to be more or less the same and still white, unlike the rest of the castle). So no matter what new body he decided to go with, it would have to be one that had about the same shape and size as it already had. And who would suspect a harmless old king to be a villain who took over a game that belonged to somebody else?

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it never entered my head that he was gay but a wacky mad hatter type of character was what they were going for, You seem to be putting a slight where there was none

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it never entered my head that he was gay but a wacky mad hatter type of character was what they were going for, You seem to be putting a slight where there was none


Completely agree. What I thought of first when I saw him was the old vaudeville comedian Ed Wynn. More a stooge/mad hatter type than anything else. The first word that pops to mind is "silly".

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