early estimates say this could be a huge hit.... - Barbie (2023) Discussion

[–] BrandNewPoster (10996) a year ago

Wrong. Everyone is saying this will be a hit.

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

more than likely it will make a billion....

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[–] christomacin (4658) a year ago

Actually, even most fans of Indy were predicting this movie would have a hard time reaching the 800 to 900 million required to make a profit, speculating it might end up around 600 million world wide. As it turned out it did a whole lot worse even than that. Those claiming it would make a billion or more were always a minority.

I think this will end up about 350 to 360 million or world wide, which is only about half of the 600 or 700 hoped for to at least avoid embarrassment.

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

JoWilli was right on the money.

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[–] Burk48917 (11372) a year ago

Because he has since edited his comments and post. This originally said it was going to flop,lol.

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

Fake news

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[–] Burk48917 (11372) a year ago

you'd have to be pretty stupid to actually believe that.

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[–] maul (1635) a year ago

Here's an archive of the thread title on July 29th:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230729205201/https://moviechat.org/tt1517268/Barbie

The actual thread sadly wasn't archived but that will be remedied in the future.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

Game, set and match Sir 👏

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

You believe everything you read?

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

"The actual thread sadly wasn't archived"
Good luck in court!

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[–] maul (1635) a year ago

I already saw your "just trolling in the same right-wing style that is common on this site" post before your edit. Be quicker next time.

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[–] SamNoyoun (5866) a year ago

Hahahaha! Well done, sir!

RIP JoWilli

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (3117) a year ago

JoWilli did edit the title and original post. I don't know why he would do that because it's ridiculous and pointless but he did.

Anyway, all you have to do is read the replies that are arguing the movie will be a big hit as opposed to arguing it will be a flop....?

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

So you do agree that he wrote that Barbie will make a Billion. That's the whole point.

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (3117) a year ago

No, I agree with Burke48917 and maul (1488). JoWilli changed all of his posts to make it look like he said it would make millions. It's pathetic to do such a thing and not the first time he has but, whatever.

How in the world did you get that I agreed with him posting it would make a billion???

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

It's what it says now and it turns out to be the truth. Why fight the truth? I don't give a shit if he changed his mind as long as it's about the right thing.

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (3117) a year ago

You are either JoWilli's sock account or you two share the same brain and are not worth my time. You're obviously just here to troll. Welcome to my ignore list!

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[–] furiousstyles (4391) a year ago

why are you being a dick, you know dam well he edited post as he we wrong with his initial prediction that it would flop, he didn't change his mind he just got embarrassed and edited it to make him look less of a fool.

Take the L with JoWilli

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

https://moviechat.org/tt9362930/Blue-Beetle/64d907e483930c762e8d602b/total-flop

how come no one is trolling on this prediction?

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[–] jk90us (7281) a year ago

https://etcanada.com/news/1005316/barbie-tracking-for-90-million-opening-weekend-as-glowing-first-reactions-pour-in-oppenheimer-predicted-to-take-43-million/amp/

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

its tracking for a huge opening, its the summer fun movie everyone wants to see...

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

"That's what they said about this completely other movie that I'm going to use as evidence to back my claim, for some reason."

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

you mean Ghostbusters 2016?

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

You don't find it foolish, naive, and just plain idiotic to predict a movie's success based off of other movies that have literally no connection? It's so stupid.

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

not based off other movies, based off what critics say about other movies... critics will always endorse mainstream/liberal movies even though they are terrible.

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

You still pay attention to critics? Lol

Looks like it's doing great, are you still going to die on the "flop" hill? 🤣

BTW, I hated 2016 Ghostbusters. I judge movies on my own merits, not by people paid to judge them for me.

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

no, I never said that. just repeating what critics say about certain movies.

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

Why?
Made 155mill first weekend on 145mill budget. That's just domestic. Are you expecting people to just stop going after today?

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

Really, I don't get this "us vs them" mentality both sides have. You all make up your fucking minds based in your dumbass preconceived notions and chips on your shoulders before ever seeing anything.

Anyone rallying for or against anything based on what they think "it" stands for is the very definition of blind tribalism. You "woke" and "antiwoke" people are the same brand of idiots, only you don't want to admit it as to be ambassadors for whatever side you're on.

Your guys all look all look like fucking morons.

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[–] bozo_500 (13130) a year ago

it feels like it should bomb, but it won't due to the crazy Batman'89 style promotion

I have difficulty accepting the notion of it doing beyond 500m ww total however. 600 absolute max

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[–] BronsonStorm (27) a year ago

It's already at $337m WW opening weekend, it's gonna crush $600m no problem.

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[–] asom (6847) a year ago

What are you smoking??

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

Currently $528.6M WW, so I'll have whatever he's smoking.

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[–] SamNoyoun (5866) 8 months ago

🤣🤣🤣

Me too!

Characteristic------Box office revenue in U.S.million dollars
Domestic----------------636.23
International------------809.4
Worldwide---------------1,445.63

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[–] Satan2016 (25539) a year ago

Super Duper WRONG! $150m OW. https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-barbie-oppenheimer-barbenheimer-1235443828/

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

It's apparently quite entertaining.

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[–] Bubbathegut (18075) a year ago

$811,024,676

It is, its a huge hit.

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[–] [deleted] a year ago

False, it's over one billion now.

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[–] robocat893 (15946) a year ago

You couldn't be more wrong. My daughter works at a cinema and she told me that they are showing Barbie in three theaters plus a 4DX theater. They started showing Barbie at 8:00am Friday morning and all shows on Friday, Saturday and most on Sunday are sold out. The only flop is you.

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[–] Otter (24464) a year ago

I drove past the local theater and there was a big crowd, including groups of youngish women wearing hot pink and hanging in groups (with a few embarrassed men attached).

I'm happy if it's a hit, not that I intend to see it myself any time soon, because the director is sort of a local girl. I'm happy for her.

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14426) a year ago

Nobody wants to see toxic, hard-left ideology and man-hating either.

Go take a look at Korean stats. This movie was apparently released earlier there, and the viewer numbers/ticket sales show a very distinct pattern. For the first day or two, the movie's doing great. Then the numbers drop off a cliff. Evidently Koreans have similar taste to Americans when it comes to not wanting to watch crap.

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[–] cyguration (3951) a year ago

That's actually good to hear.

Hopefully we see that trend take root in the West (if not, then all hope for society is doomed).

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14426) a year ago

Yeah, I heard someone bragging about how packed the theaters were right now. Don't you just love short-sighted people? That isn't gonna last after this weekend. Once word gets out how family/kid-UNfriendly this film is, nobody's gonna want to watch. It'll have the same thing happen to it as TLJ.

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

I'm certainly not going to see it, as I have little interest.

That being said...are you REALLY going to stand by your statement and assessment that people are just going to stop going after this weekend? Lol

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14426) a year ago

If you had young kids you wanted to take to this film, and heard about all the inappropriate adult stuff, would you take them once your friends warned you about it?

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

Why would you expect only G rated content from a movie rated PG13? That's what the ratings are for. That should've been your first obvious hint it's not for little kids.🤦‍♂️

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14426) a year ago

I expect G or PG-rated stuff from a BARBIE movie; not a Trojan horse full of adult jokes and words that are not appropriate for kids! Every other Barbie film I've ever seen was rated G or maybe a soft PG, never PG-13.

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

So you're saying you paid no attention to what THIS Barbie movie is rated. Got it.

That's your fault, not anyone else.
The entitlement is real.

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14426) a year ago

It wasn't me who didn't pay attention. It was the parents and grandparents with young children who were tricked. I didn't watch this shit.

Feeling smarter because you put someone down? Who's the entitled bully now?

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

"Tricked"🤣
Again, the rating is there for everyone to see, and it's not hidden. People taking young kids to see ANYTHING should be checking the ratings as a guide. This is not new, this is what's been happening for decades.

If parents and grandparents didn't check the rating, that's their own fault.

And BTW, this movie is setting records and continues to grow by the day. Your hope for failure is already over and done.

So in short, yes, I feel smarter and superior over others simply because I'm capable of exercising some common sense that others cant.

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[–] capuchin (3195) a year ago

AmeriGirl26 may possibly have a point. If there are people accidentally taking their younger children, that probably would dry up after word spread among their peer groups. I've seen a few people -- one of them a regular on these forums -- who initially intended to go with their young child(ren), but then noted it wasn't a kids' film and rethought that particular cinema outing. That's what responsible parents do.

But the whole point of PG-13 / 12A in the UK ratings is to place the decision in the hands of parents. Parents who haven't paid attention to its suitability for their younger children haven't been 'tricked', they've just abdicated their responsibilities.

And that's probably not a huge segment of the audience anyway. Most people aren't dummies. And quite why AmeriGirl imagines a film probably not being suitable for small children that's rated PG-13 to alert you to the fact would suddenly be in a situation where 'no-one' wants to watch it is beyond me.

And it's certainly not the reason the film didn't have legs in South Korea. Barbie dolls aren't terribly popular in South Korea. This particular totem of US pop culture doesn't have much traction there. Koreans might be more interested in a Mimi doll film, for example. Far from failing in South Korea due to cultural similarities [AmeriGirl appears to imagine the rest of the world shares America's politics and gives a shiny crap about its 'culture wars'] the failure of Barbie in that territory is most likely due to cultural differences.

Why did it open early in South Korea? Probably to test how the film would play in a territory where Barbie was significantly behind the best-selling fashion doll.

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[–] blindfolded (1621) a year ago

The notion that a few anecdotal cases of people not going to take their young kids completely ignores the shift in demographics of young adults with no kids that may suddenly be interested, and they weren't interested in seeing a shallow kiddie movie.

Not only is it trading one ticket for another, it'd actually attracting more audience.

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[–] capuchin (3195) a year ago

Well, I did suggest it wouldn't be a significant demographic. It does happen is all I was suggesting. That's the extent of the validity of AmeriGirl's point. It does happen.

Those people 'accidentally' or irresponsibly taking their young kids to PG-13 / 12A films exist for literally every PG-13 / 12A film released. We see them there in the auditorium, don't we, and quietly wonder what the hell they think they're playing at.

And, yes, you're possibly right. The film will probably attract more of its actual target demographic precisely because it isn't a kid's film.

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[–] Thaisticks (3064) a year ago

‘Barbie’ A Knockout With $337M Global Bow

So you searched and found a country that doesn't like Barbie after the first week and think that's going to happen here because they have "similar taste to Americans?" Hold my beer...

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[–] Thaisticks (3064) a year ago

And so, according to your description of the movie, the world loves to watch "toxic, hard-left ideology and man-hating?" Why is this important information held back from all the western world? Do people really not know what they're watching? Or are you just another mindless reactionary? I think that makes the most sense, don't you?

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

Currently $528.6M WW, so it looks like people do want to see this.

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[–] AmeriGirl26 (14426) a year ago

I guess they're the older crowd. No guarantees they'll buy it on DVD, though.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

I wouldn’t know about that, just stating the facts.

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[–] SamNoyoun (5866) a year ago

This comment did NOT age well!

Not unlike the original post, which was conveniently edited after the fact...

early estimates say this could be a huge flop...
posted 6 days ago by JoWilli (11147)

no one wants to see a middle aged barbie and ken, go woke go broke...

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

I can’t believe he went back and edited everything 🤷‍♂️

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[–] SamNoyoun (5866) a year ago

He and Bubba pull the old editing-the-post trick quite often...

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

I say, just hold your hand up and admit the mistake, people will respect you far more than trying to weasel out of it.

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[–] JoWilli (20127) a year ago

https://moviechat.org/tt1745960/Top-Gun-Maverick/624862e3a19d656cf17b7d00/1-billion

everyone mocked for this prediction....

[–] LiquidOcelot (2140) a year ago
It will gross nowhere near 1 billion. More like $500m max and even that's generous.

[–] JoWilli (11796) a year ago
I dont care what anyone says, Tom Cruise is a Legend.

https://youtu.be/Nz9lnIDdkMo

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (3117) a year ago

You are wasting your time. JoWilli is just a troll with nothing better to do with his life. It's pathetic. Just ignore him and don't bother reading or replying to his posts. I have no respect for him. I also think "casualdroid" is him as well since his only purpose seems to be backing him up. I have him on my ignore list.

It's weird, makes you wonder what kind of person does something like that for attention from people they will never meet. So weird.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

Maybe he's a 12 year old?

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[–] StinkyPoopyPants (3117) a year ago

Possibly. There's definitely immaturity behind his posts. But I don't waste my time with that kind of behavior here. It gets old.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

I certainly won’t be wasting any more time.

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[–] JBran (1659) a year ago

Barbie is a huge hit with critics and audiences, and the biggest WB movie in history.

Great prediction there!

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[–] jacotodd47 (1885) a year ago

I agree with "no one wants to see a middle aged Barbie and Ken" - this does apply to me - I have no interest in "Barbie" - but it seems the early estimates have turned out wrong. I think "Barbie" made around 150 million - in only its first weekend.

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[–] AndyKing1967 (38288) a year ago

Currently $528.6M WW, however, I'm not the target demographic.

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