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Excellent movie that caters to adult sensibilities

posted 11 years ago by pieginodino
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Someone else said it best, "Superhero movies are no longer merely visual pyrotechnics for the prepubescent, popcorn-munching masses. They are films driven by questions about character and motivation, and a little existential angst." The Wolverine delivers all this and we can now add another fine film to the comic adaptation achieves right next to the best of the Iron Man and Spider-Man movies.

The Wolverine is a well-written film with superb performances all around. The script is admirable and develops the character in interesting ways, continuing and exploring themes that adults can appreciate. Maybe some of the minor backlash we see here is from those who wanted all childish ninja action? Isn't that why they are re-making Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? My advice, quit bitching about a great film like this one and simply wait for that to hit theatres.

[–] logan-duk-dong 11 years ago

Also people with tattoos.

Isn't that why they are re-making Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?

Is that what you picture in your head? A bunch of studio stiffs sitting around a table:

Generic Executive #1: TMNT
Generic Executive #2: Adult sensibilities.
Generic Executive #3: Yes. Indubitably.

I just assumed it was because someone owned the rights to it and wanted to make more money off it. The TV series was good. First movie too. Sequels not so much. They just keep popping quarters into the machine until they hit a jackpot or run out of money.

[–] Xaeden 11 years ago

I just assumed it was because someone owned the rights to it and wanted to make more money off it.

More or less:

Exec 1: Let's see, Transformers was a major hit. What other 80s children properties can we mine for box office gold instead of investing in new ideas?
Exec 2: Duh, G.I. Joe!
Exec 1: Okay, that was a moderate success. Now where do we go?
Exec 3: Hmm... Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?
Exec 1: Don't be stupid. There's no way that will work.
Exec 2: What if we throw a bunch of money at Michael Bay to produce and hire back Megan Fox?
Exec 1: Brilliant!

Both movie studios and TV networks love to do this. They adapt a book or revive an old property and when it does really well, they look to bring back something from the same vein. But it rarely works out. At best it's a modest success like G.I. Joe, but usually it's a bomb. In the TV world, they had a hit on their hands with their Hawaii Five-0, but are they satisfied with that? No, of course, they have to try to strike gold twice by then bringing back Charlies Angels. In the movie world, they have a hit with Twilight, so they fall all over themselves to make a movie out of the first book in a planned series that was written by the same author. That bombs. Same with with the author who did that CW vampire show. It did well for them so surely a witch series written by the same author could match that success? Yeah, no such luck. The examples of this happening just go on and on.

[–] syafiqjabar 9 years ago

Ninja Turtles is actually very popular nowadays, even more so after the animated series that debut in 2012. So no executive would have thought making a new TMNT movie wouldn't work. It's a very successful franchise. Now we see that there's going to be a sequel.

Megan Fox's casting was likely all on Bay. It was their way of making nice again.

[–] AfterBuzz 11 years ago

Is this why the children that post the hate here are still at it? This movie hit WAAAAAAY above their heads.

I accept your surrender.

[–] blackdoug 11 years ago

I'm glad to see that the majority of film fans agree that this movie does the character justice.

[–] TheSolarSailor 11 years ago

I wasn't hugely crazy about the actual plot that resulted in the Adamantium robot and such at the end, but the characterization given to Logan is what really drives the film and makes it so good. I like how they used Jean Grey to give insight into Logan's own insecurities and uncertainties about the future. The burden of immortality is a valid question asked by the film, though someone further up in the thread claimed that the movies asked no interesting questions. So while I might take some issue with the final act in the big mountain facility, it in no way negates my enjoyment of Logan's characterization.

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[–] Tsavo 9 years ago

I'm with you all the way here!

"Aw Crap!" - Hellboy

[–] Logan8888 9 years ago

I still liked this film more than Deadpool and I enjoyed that movie for what it was.

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[–] StarkTech 11 years ago

Grown up film for true grown ups.

[–] Allswell007 10 years ago

Can they deliver as much with Deadpool? That remains to be seen because that character needs true humor in the script.

[–] AfterBuzz 9 years ago

Someone else said it best, "Superhero movies are no longer merely visual pyrotechnics for the prepubescent, popcorn-munching masses. They are films driven by questions about character and motivation, and a little existential angst." The Wolverine delivers all this and we can now add another fine film to the comic adaptation achieves right next to the best of the Iron Man and Spider-Man movies.

Add Ant-Man to the fun yet thoughtful mix.

I accept your surrender.

[–] scotts863 9 years ago

I still wish that they had left the director's cut alone. Saw this film again today on FX and when they cut the ninja scene it made me nearly cry out.

[–] McGrit 8 years ago

I hope Hugh's final Wolverine film is at least as good as this one and I hope they let Mangold do what he wants completely this time. No forced edits.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."

[–] The_paranoid_android 8 years ago

Superhero movies are no longer merely visual pyrotechnics for the prepubescent, popcorn-munching masses. They are films driven by questions about character and motivation, and a little existential angst.

I would agree with this, but that has been the case since X-men and Spider-man back in 2000 and 2001. Character and story suddenly had a higher placement on the pedestal of film-making.

The Wolverine is a well-written film with superb performances all around. The script is admirable and develops the character in interesting ways, continuing and exploring themes that adults can appreciate.

Absolutely. I loved the more somber, reflective nature of the narrative and is a great character study.

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[–] McGrit 8 years ago

Reminds me of your wife's behind.

"A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man."