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Dredd 2 finally hapening? with Stallone?!

posted 4 years ago by bozo_500 (13150)
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https://movieweb.com/judge-dredd-tv-show-mega-city-one-scripts/

It'd be awesome if Stallone cameo'd (or even was in it properly as a villain or something) or imagine if after all the bitchin and whining about wanting Dredd2 they make it a sequel to Stallones Dredd LOL

I imagine the pandemic has studios looking for movie sequel stuff that can be tuned into streaming, so D2 fits with that as they were already looking at doing it like that before c19 (wouldn't surprise me if likes of Alien, Predator, Terminator, Blade Runner will eventually do this too)

[–] seagal72 (1968) 4 years ago

Definitely up for a Stallone sequel....with Sly as Judge Dredd

[–] wearsalan (5554) 4 years ago

Good God NOOOOOOOOO!

[–] seagal72 (1968) 4 years ago

Judge Dredd is light years ahead of 'Dredd'....which everyone claims was faithful to the comics. Yet despite reading the comics since 1977, I recall no stories concerning Dredd trapped in a corridor shooting people endlessly in the face over several issues. As it's been previously stated, Dredd (2012) is just high-gloss, plotless, gore-porn/ Raid-rip-off.....and apparently is *only* more faithful to the comics (largely because Urban kept his helmet on.....and little else)

It mattered little to me in 1995 that Stallone removed his helmet....it wasn't that much of a deal-breaker, that it got in the way of what was (a otherwise) spectacular-looking, fun action sci-fi movie (purists tend to conveniently forget that 'humour' was common in the comics, also)

Give it a few more years, and people will start seeing 'Dredd' (2012) for the 'naked emperor' it clearly is....whilst re-evaluating the 95 version for being the fun time at the cinema it was *always* advertised as.

Stallone would look even better as Dredd now too

[–] wearsalan (5554) 4 years ago

I remember watching Stallone as Dredd and thinking WTF!!! It was nothing like the Dredd of the comics. Karl Urban on the other hand sold me on it.
I would pay to watch Urban again as Dredd. I wouldn't watch another Stallone iteration if I got it for free.

Just for the record I like Stallone as an actor, just not as Dredd.

[–] bozo_500 (13150) 4 years ago

LOL awesome (and refreshing) way of looking at the 2 films!

[–] Poopsey1 (948) 2 years ago

why the idiot "lol"????

[–] Ace_Spade (9573) 4 years ago

I haven't seen all of Judge Dredd - just some of it - so what I'm saying here is not a commentary on that film or on the relative quality between the two (although, from what I have seen, I definitely prefer Dredd; that's beside the point).

I think your evaluation of Dredd is wrong. It isn't just shooting, it's not just carnage for the sake of carnage. It develops character through action. Now, I'm not here to say that it's an Oscar-contender, or that it's the 21st century's version of The Old Man and the Sea, because I'm not. It's not art-house. These aren't the best characters ever. Nevertheless, it does have more depth than you're pretending. Most of that centres around the rookie would-be-judge Cassandra.

Cassandra's journey into the hell of the megacity and being a Judge and what it means to pass judgement on people is what's important here. Her arc is very interesting, and it is brought about through the violence. It's like the kung fu scene in The Matrix. That's not about kung fu. It's about Neo testing his abilities, pushing further, and developing his journey and his relationship with Morpheus. Later on, "bullet time" wasn't just about Neo doing something rad', but about Neo pushing further yet again and the revelation that he can move like the Agents - something no human has ever accomplished before. Action is story and character if done right (if it's done wrong, it's like...well...a lot of the stuff in the second and third Matrix films).

So I'd push back on your condemnation/dismissal of Dredd. It might not be an A+, but it's got more depth than you're giving it credit for. And, again, I'm not saying it's better than the Stallone picture. I haven't seen enough of that one to, uh...judge it.

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

Dredd (2012) is just high-gloss, plotless, gore-porn/ Raid-rip-off.

Yeah, that's a totally daft opinion, every single one of those descriptions.

[–] AP (5288) 4 years ago

It would be fun if Stallone showed up as a villain. He seems more keen to revisit his past franchises these days. While the `12 Dredd was closer to the comics, the Stallone Dredd was fun.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 4 years ago

The only thing Dredd was closer to the comics is just that he never took off his helmet. This movie is The Raid rip-off.

[–] seagal72 (1968) 4 years ago

^this^

[–] trevorh321 (5495) 4 years ago

Didn't they come out the same year?

[–] actionkamen (23176) 4 years ago

That happened often. Olympus Has Fallen and White House Down... etc. Also, The Raid was released in 2011, this movie was 2012.

[–] trevorh321 (5495) 4 years ago

I doubt they copied The Raid, though. I feel this is a much better film.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 4 years ago

It's too similar. They may have obtained the script / screenplay or they coincidentally started with a similar plot and then they saw The Raid (maybe pre-release) and adjusted their movie on the fly. Scripts are being changed all the time in movies. It could happen.

The Raid was better. This movie is not bad but it offers nothing new. The CGI was okay, action was okay, story was all right, villain was all right. But nothing was spectacular outside of the fact that Dredd didn't take his helmet off. That was the only saving grace this movie had. It was the whole promotion / hype about this version of Dredd, that he would never take his helmet off. That's it.

World building was better than The Raid, I'll give you that. The Raid's world was just ridiculous and non-sensical. It's a given considering this was an adaptation of a comic book while The Raid's whole story was just an thinly veiled excuse for making a hardcore action flick in low budget.

[–] MickyMac (3191) 3 years ago

Dredd was shot before The Raid and came out two after shooting and after The Raid all due to idiotic marketing.

[–] MickyMac (3191) 3 years ago

Dredd was filmed before The Raid and was released for a BS reason after The Raid, Dredd was released two years after it was filmed.

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

Dredd is nothing like the Raid. All because both involve a siege on an apartment building doesn't mean they're similar. This is such a superficial, mindless comparison that could only be made by either ppl who didn't watch one of them, or a person who watched both but doesn't have much of an attention span, or puts very much thought into what they watch.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 3 years ago

Your mom didn't watch both.

[–] [deleted] 4 years ago

Stallone should butt out. He didn't even give a Judge Dredd movie he gave us a stallone movie.

[–] bozo_500 (13150) 4 years ago

would they have the balls to call it Dredd 2: Judgement Day

[–] Filmtenk2 (4064) 4 years ago

Normally you'd feel my nonviolent wrath for making such a suggestion but I'm glad Dredd 2 is being discussed and still hope it happens to this day with K.U. in the lead role.

[–] Ace_Spade (9573) 4 years ago

I hope they make Dredd 2 only if they've got a great story they want to tell. Frankly, I'd be as interested (if not moreso) in seeing what Cassandra was up to in the sequel than Dredd himself. If they wanted to spinoff and have Cassandra walking the Megacity using her gifts to help people (like Kain in Kung Fu!) I'd dig it.

As to the Stallone cameo...maybe? In Skyfall, when Albert Finney showed up, I thought it was Sean Connery for less than a second. And for that brief (very, very brief) interval, I was excited and chuckling. Apparently they courted him to make that cameo and he turned it down. On the one hand, that might have been cool. On the other hand, I think it would have been a weird fourth wall break in a non-fourth wall breakin' film. I think that might be true here. In anything where Stallone was recognisable, it might kinda make the film a joke for however long he was on-screen for. In a two-second cameo/walk-on role, maybe it could justify the chuckle. But longer-term... I doubt it. If Stallone was PERFECT for the role, that's the exception. But he'd have to make me forget that the film was winking with his inclusion. If not, it would gum up the works.

[–] bozo_500 (13150) 4 years ago

I could see something like his cameo in Staying Alive where he bumps into Travolta on the street .. so Urban Dredd would be on the streets of MC1 walks past some big dude looking at him..turns back to see its Stallone (CG deaged to how he looked in Dredd 1995 lol)

[–] Ace_Spade (9573) 4 years ago

Yeah, that'd be okay. Something like that would be a good tip of the hat without overburdening the movie with a joke.

[–] ShogunofYonkers (77566) 4 years ago

Stallone as a villain and Urban as Dredd would be movie of the year!
Make this movie already (and King Conan with Arnold as long as I'm making wishes👍)

[–] rateater (10075) 4 years ago

with the success of mandalorian they should go ahead and make a series.