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Why are all US sports so boring?


The USA has given the world many great things in the fields of Technology,Fashion, Music,Film etc etc.However when it comes to Sports the US is a disaster.Basically, very few outside the US have any interest at all in a single sport that the Americans invented.Baseball- I believe only the Cubans and Japanese play or have any interest in it.American Football-popular nowhere outside the USA.Basketball-yes its popular in quite a few countries but mainly countries which are bad at soccer (Eastern Europe,China etc.In major European sporting countries like Germany, France, the UK its dead). Volleyball- a niche sport at best.The famous (in the USA)athletes who play these sports could walk naked down any street around the world and not get a second glance.

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cool story, bro

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I grew up with baseball and it has always been a big part of my life.

I can understand that, if you are an American.I have no doubt that if I had been born in the USA I too would probably be a fan of either baseball or basketball or American football.I guess I should have titled my post Why does the rest of the World not appreciate US sports?

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It´s just a part of their culture. But you are right, the only baseball players i know are Babe Ruth and Rickly Mantle but i only know their names, i don´t know how they look like, for whom they played or anything. When it comes to American football it´s even worse, i don´t know any American football players.

Basketball is quite diffirent, everybody knows the NBA stars.

Where i live there has never been prodcast from a baseball game, some years ago they tried to show us the Superbowl and get people interest but it failed. I remember trying to watch it but i got bored because it seemed for every 5 seconds of gameplay you had to wait several minutes.

The fact that baseball/A-football has millions of fans in their country has to mean something but also the fact that these sports don´t generate any interest, even on the internet age, outside their own country has to mean something to.

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Rickly Mantle? Nice. Not really. but unintentionally hilarious

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Let my guess..... he IS a football player right?

I only remember his name from a Simpsons episode.

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You just made it funnier.

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LMAO, let's make him keep guessing until he gets it right!

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How is Major League Soccer in the U.S. doing. Soccer (football) does not have much appeal outside of Europe and a few South American countries.

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soccer is massive worldwide not just europe and a few south american countries-a truly ignorant comment-football and it is football not soccer is truly global-africa asia south america central america europe-not really much left really

i wouldnt say american sport is boring-some of it can be quite exciting but most american sports have little appeal outside the country.-i tried to watch the superbowl once but fell asleep-all adverts stoppages and little action-strictly for the purists in my opinion

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soccer is massive worldwide not just europe and a few south american countries-a truly ignorant comment-football and it is football not soccer is truly global-africa asia south america central america europe-not really much left really

i wouldnt say american sport is boring-some of it can be quite exciting but most american sports have little appeal outside the country.-i tried to watch the superbowl once but fell asleep-all adverts stoppages and little action-strictly for the purists in my opinion

You have got to be kidding. How many soccer matches end in 0-0 scores? 90 minutes of dudes kicking a ball back and forth. At least American sports have action and scoring.

And Football is gaining international interest. There are many leagues starting in Europe and there are several in Japan already. Baseball is pretty international as well. Mostly with South America and Asia.

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The Japanese love "besu baru". They picked it up after that little unpleasantness known as WWII. In revenge, they've had this nasty habit of winning the Little League World Series. I once took a cab to a game in Fukuoka. The cabbie had the game on the radio. When I got to the game, I felt right at home.

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"At least American sports have action and scoring".

Like in American football where most of the "action" seems to take place off the pitch preparing for another fascinating five second burst of play? Besides, not all scoreless football matches are necessarily boring.


"Baseball is pretty international as well. Mostly with South America and Asia".

In Latin America, it seems to be really big in Cuba, Puerto Rico and (to a lesser extent) Venezuela. Elsewhere, it doesn't come close to competing with football. In Asia, it's extremely popular in Japan, but that's about it.



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You can be dirt-poor & play it. All you need is some dirt & a few rags balled up into a sort-of sphere & a few rocks to mark the goal-posts. That's it. have at it.

Having said that, major-league US "sports" pretty much do suck now b/c they've turned into businesses, not sports. And the same is true of most high-level soccer or futbol or whatever you want to call it.

I watched a few English Premier League matches & some World Cup matches & they suffer from the same issues:
a) lousy officiating that too often takes over the game
b) ridiculous rules
c) whiny, childish (supposed) athletes

I will say that over the last 25 yrs, US pro sports have deteriorated while top-level futbol has definitely improved. I remember futbol players being a lot more whiny & childish decades ago. It used to be there'd be a couple of (supposed) athletes rolling around on the ground crying & grabbing a shin or shoulder at almost all times.

Now golf ... Bwa Ha Ha! That's just stupid.

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"Lousy officiating".

There really wasn't much of that in evidence in this summer's Euros. Hopefully, this trend will continue.


"Ridiculous rules".

Such as?


"Whiny, childish (supposed) athletes".

"Flopping", as they seem to call it, is a real annoyance, but could be reduced significantly if players engaged in such behaviour were punished more severely - for instance, in this year's Champions League final, an as-hole known as Pepe pulled a major playacting gig twice and in an ideal world should've gotten a yellow card both times. After such a sending off he surely would be thinking twice about going down that road in the future (if he's capable of rational thought at all, that is).



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It would take hours to list them. It is easier to say that the beauty of a sport like soccer SHOULD BE that is has as few rules as possible. Some are FAR more ridiculous than others, but the easiest way to grasp this, is to realize that almost all rules in futbol just get in the way of a good game.
I'm not going to debate it b/c I've never met a futbol fan who could honestly, rationally debate the rules, but in short-hand, somewhat in order from worst:

the substitution rules
the offsides rules
the yellow / red card rules
the entire "extra time" concept, which is only necessary b/c the other rules are so 16th century
the penalty-kick in the box rules (I don't even remember the terminology on that one)
the list goes on ...............

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That is just plain wrong. Football (soccer) is the most popular sport in most countries in Europe, South America and Africa. It is also the most popular sport in the world in general, with more than 250 million players worldwide.

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ERM - you've forgotten the entire African continent and most of Asia... and EVERY South American country, except Surinam and Guyana. It's by far the only sport that can have a WORLD series. Nothing wrong with US sports - just not as big an appeal. But hey - look at cricket... similar to baseball in how many nations like it....

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Soccer is the most popular sport in the world because any group of impoverished starving idiots can get together and play it with minimal fuss and overhead. Basketball, baseball, and American football suffer in popularity worldwide among the kids simply because of the equipment required to play them. It's not because of the massively superior and intrinsic appeal of footie (as the dorky Brits like to call soccer). With soccer you just need a plot of land, a ball, and four rocks for the fake goalposts.

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Typical response from an ignorant american. You make all of your fellow countrymen look bad, congratulations. (I'm not one of them btw)

FYI, everyone calls football(soccer); football, because it is actually played with the feet, except for americans, who for some inexplicable reason call a game that is played with hands for the most part 'football'.

That being said, me knowing absolutely nothing about baseball still liked this film. Still wouldn't watch baseball on TV, but I must say it did change my perspective on the sport :)

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I always wondered why we can't just call it gridiron. I heard an Australian call it that once. It sounds pretty badass, too. So "soccer" could be football & American football could be gridiron.

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Wrong. Soccer is called football because it is a game played on foot as opposed to on horseback, i.e., polo.

Soccer is derived from soccer's ID of Association Football, as opposed to Rugby Football. Other types of football are American and Australian football.

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Actually the term football in sports used to apply to any sport not played while mounted (like polo). Therefore there were several sports, all called football: association football (soccer), gridiron football (american football), rugby league football, rugby union football, Gaelic football, Australian rules football, Canadian rules football. The term "soccer" came to America through the UK who used soccer as the short hand for associated football. As the term soccer grew in popularity in the US, countries outside the US changed to calling it football. So your quip about that everyone calls it football, "because it is actually played with the feet" is a pretty ignorant statement.

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Typical response from an ignorant american. You make all of your fellow countrymen look bad, congratulations. (I'm not one of them btw)


Or maybe you're just butt-hurt because you can't handle the truth. Calling someone else ignorant just because your feelings were hurt won't win acceptance.

The Americans call it football because it evolved from a rugby match played between Rutgers and Princeton University in 1869, and rugby was one of several games in the 19th century referred to as "football." So, not really so inexplicable when you bother to research it.

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And how hard do you think it is to play American football, you ignorant bastard? I love American football & played in high school (still terrible at it, though) but you're acting like a total dick.

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""Soccer (football) does not have much appeal outside of Europe and a few South American countries. ""

What? You are kidding, right?

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It's a matter of perspective ...

I'm a Canadian, so obviously my favorite sport is hockey because I was born with skates on and I live in an igloo.

I'm also a huge fan of NFL football ... great sport. (before someone says it, yes I know, CFL football is a bad joke).

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As a typical North American, I watch soccer only in extreme cases when I need to catch up on some sleep.

Watching a game usually goes like this:

Me: what's the score?
Friend: 0-0
Me: great, wake me up when the excitement starts.

I'd rather have root canal surgery than being subjected to soccer.

I don't care for baseball either ... see above comments regarding sleep.

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I'm a Canadian


Awesome. I love Canada. Visited there many times, and have relatives there. Hockey ****ing rules! Lacrosse is awesome, and I even enjoy curling. Lots of Curlers around where I live.

Nothing wrong with Canadians when it comes to sports.

That being said, American sports kick ass too. Football is about the most complex team sport there is. Provides endless opportunity for sporting enjoyment, intrigue, and just plain fun. I'm not a huge baseball fan, but it's really fun to go and see a ball game once in a while. Even if you don't really like baseball, going to a baseball game can still be a great way to spend the day. I don't follow the sport, and don't ever watch it on TV.

Soccer......is the dumbest......most boring.....most useless excuse for a 'sport' on planet Earth. SOOOOOOOOOOOO DUUUUUUUUULLL!!! Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth, it's AWFUL. I've made an honest effort to watch a soccer game from time to time. Olympics usually. I ALWAYS fall asleep, or get so close that I turn of the TV and go do something else. There is something seriously wrong with the rest of the world. Play a REAL sport. Like Football, or Hockey. I'm not a fan of Basketball at all, but at least it's a real sport. People actually score a freakin point once in a while.

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"Football is about the most complex team sport there is. Provides endless opportunity for sporting enjoyment, intrigue, and just plain fun."

Totally agree, there's nothing better than watching a close game on a Sunday afternoon when there's a chill in the air (fall/early winter).

Pull the phone off the hook, get a few snacks (and beers obviously), put the TV on ... and bingo! ... you're set for the whole day (3 games ... 1pm, 4pm, 8pm).

"I'm not a huge baseball fan, but it's really fun to go and see a ball game once in a while. Even if you don't really like baseball, going to a baseball game can still be a great way to spend the day. I don't follow the sport, and don't ever watch it on TV."

As for baseball, I used to play it when I was young. Fun sport to play but can be excrutiating to watch on TV ...if they banned players from scratching or adjusting their "package" every 5 seconds, I'm sure the games would be an hour shorter.

I used to go to Expos games once in a while in Montreal when we had a team, it was a fun outing. Even if the game was boring, it was fun to enjoy a nice summer day ... go with the flow, have a few hot-dogs and enjoy the company of a few buddies.

I do understand that baseball is an american cultural tradition passed from father to sons ... up here in Canada, we have hockey that fulfil this role. We like to train them young on how to avoid frostbite (or losing a few teeth).

Soccer ... you've said it all and I totally agree. It's an evil communist plot aimed at destroying a person's will to live. Just joking guys ... don't send me angry letters.

I never cared about basketball either ... in the end, it's a matter of personal preferences and what you are familiar with.

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Why?
because for every 1 minute of action you have to endure 3 or more of stoppage time
and why is that?
2 reasons
1. advertising - you need stoppage time to advertise
2. people in this country are out of shape. you can't have too much action or they will be keeling over left and right on the fields with heartattacks

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@shurbanm - love your post!!

To everyone else: Football is the sport you actually play with your feet for most of the time (head and throw-ins accepted), and not only twice or three times in three hours...why in the world did they call it that in the US anyway???
And by the way, American Rugby (that's what it SHOULD be called) is imported just like everything else...;-)

I will not call football anything else, just because Americans confuse the limbs they play with...!!!:-)

And football is the universal sport, all you need is a ball and two bags or logs or whatever to create a goal - and it's on. Will never die.

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And football is the universal sport, all you need is a ball and two bags or logs or whatever to create a goal - and it's on. Will never die.

You wouldn't be saying that if you grew up in the USA. Your feelings are just an accident of birth.

If a sport has millions of followers, then by definition, it is not inherently boring. It only seems that way to those who are not immersed in the culture of it.

FWIW, football is called "soccer" not only in the USA but also Canada and Australia because they too call their brand of rugby "football". We all agree that the name "football" doesn't make much sense for a form of rugby. But the people who named it "football" are all dead, so blame them. By tradition, we are stuck calling it that and it isn't going to change.

What if someone decided that tennis would best be renamed "raquetball" and golf should be renamed "club ball". Would you change what you call these games? Don't be small minded and judgemental. Be a little more tolerant and understanding of other cultures and the world will be a better place for all of us.

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@ bsharporflat

a) please get a sense of humour
b) I was only saying that I call football football and will not use the American (Canadian, Austrakian...) pidgin term for it. Surely you can be so tolerant and understanding and just let me do that :-)

And why wouldn't I be saying football is the universal sport if I had been born in the US? (maybe I was...:-))
Young boys (and girls) all over the world are throwing an egg-shaped ball around or batting baseballs?

Peace!

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You do realise that the term 'soccer' was not invented in America, Canada or Australia, don't you?

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The story of Football/Rugby is that it originally was the same game. The game was called football, but was being played close to 50/50 between hands and feet. When the British brought it with them to America it was called football. The game then evolved in different directions in Britain and the US.

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I do like American sports a lot. The thing with them is, like someone already mentioned, one might not understand them. I started watching the NBA series last year and it's still confusing to me. I was trying to figure it out yesterday actually and...how do you have like 6 games in one day? What are they doing now? It's a regular series? When are the playoffs? What are the playoffs? Why so many games? I do enjoy it, the Finals last year was the best entertainment I've ever witnessed but still.

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The NBA has a regular season, followed by the playoffs. The regular season is NOV - APR, playoffs MAY - JUNE.

There are 30 NBA teams, 16 of which make the playoffs. There's been a longstanding debate on whether or not the playoff structure allows too many teams (over 50%). This is the main reason why the playoffs may seem long and confusing. Quite often teams with a losing record make the playoffs, although the great teams usually dispatch of them quickly in the early rounds.

Every playoff series is a "best-of-7", meaning the first team to win 4 games wins the series and advances to the next round. The format looks like this (I would copy-paste the Wikipedia link, but its confusing)

EAST CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS (each is a best-of-7 series)
Round One: #1 plays #8, #4 plays #5, #3 plays #6, #2 plays #7
Round Two: 1/8 winner plays 4/5 winner. 3/6 winner plays 2/7 winner.
Round Three: The winners of the two Round two series play each other

WEST CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS
same as above

FINALS (East champion vs. West champion)

Last season, the Miami Heat were the East champion. They met the Dallas Mavericks in the NBA Finals, the West champion. Dallas won the series in six games (4 - 2), and were crowned NBA Champions.

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Thanks loads!

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LOL, the reason nobody cares about boring ass soccer in the US is because we have far superior sports.

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Yeah, soccer is so much more exciting, with enticing final scores of 2-0

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Yeah, soccer is so much more exciting, with enticing final scores of 2-0

Believe it or not some of the most exciting games of soccer actually finish 0-0.Its not just about scoring goals-a team may have a brilliant Goalkeeper who somehow stops all shots or teams may specialize in defence(Italy...hem..hem)and a good defensive team need not be a boring team.

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Baseball is a fascinating game, but it takes a bit of time to understand and appreciate, so it's not the sort of game that is easily exported to other countries. It's very mental, very psychological. This is a pretty good description of that. Sorry it's so long.
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It's no secret that Major League Baseball players can hit, catch and throw far better than the rest of us, but these abilities don't just come from their above-average physical prowess. As Yogi Berra once infamously said, "Baseball is 90 percent mental; the other half is physical."

In a book that came out earlier this year, "The Psychology of Baseball," psychologist Mike Stadler of the University of Missouri took a look inside that "90 percent" to see what mental abilities and traits major leaguers have that allow them to succeed in the high-pressure, precise and highly psychological game of baseball.

"Baseball is impossible without psychology: impossible to play, and impossible to appreciate fully as a fan," Stadler wrote. "Watch any game, and most of what you see is thinking."

While all sports involve a certain amount of psychology to strategize and plan in given situations, it is particularly apparent in baseball.

"Baseball is different … because it does give players a lot more time to think before each action," Stadler said.

Having all that time to think means that baseball players need sharp cognitive skills to complement their physical abilities to succeed in the major leagues.

"You have to be one in 2 million to have the total package of physical and psychological abilities required to succeed in baseball at its highest levels of competition," Stadler wrote.

Mental agility

Most baseball players have extraordinary capabilities to coordinate physical and mental processes, including fast reaction times, focus and high visual acuity.

Studies conducted by Columbia University on Babe Ruth while he was playing showed that he could react to visual and sound cues much faster than the average person and that he had better hand-eye coordination than 98.8 percent of the population.

Baseball players tend to have excellent vision, which allows them to see things like the spin on a curveball hurtling toward them at home plate, cues they can use to get a hit.

"Most baseball players do have pretty good vision; a huge proportion of them test at better than 20/20," Stadler said.

Reaction time is also critical in baseball, and the better players seem to have better reaction times. There's some suggestion that this could simply be a matter of having more practice, "but you actually find even within really highly skilled players, the players at the higher end, the faster reaction times still tend to have higher batting averages and be slightly better hitters," Stadler told LiveScience.

Hitters also employ prediction, a psychological process, to help them hit the ball. They use what they know about a pitcher from previous times they have hit against him and what they know about the game situation (how many outs there are, what the count is, whether there are any players on the bases) to guess what ball the pitcher might throw next. This prediction is critical because they have so little time to react to a pitch (the ball only takes four-tenths of a second to cross the plate after it is released).

"The physical nature of the game, and especially the speed of some of the things that have to happen means that you just have to have a lot of mental preparation or it would be impossible," Stadler said.

Baseball players also tend to have excellent focus, which allows them to drown out external factors such as the crowd noise and any worries over a recent losing streak. Roger Clemens, who pitched for the New York Yankees this season, once commented that when he was focused, all he saw was the catcher, but when he lost his focus, he was "seeing the crowd, not just the catcher."

Baseball personality

Besides the physical process and acute mental abilities, successful baseball players also typically have certain personality traits—this is perhaps best exemplified by the diverging career paths of Darryl Strawberry and Billy Beane, Stadler said.

Both players were drafted by the Mets in 1980 (Strawberry was picked much higher than Beane)—the team even had trouble deciding which player to pick first because of their comparable athletic abilities. But while Strawberry came to be one of the best hitters in baseball, Beane couldn't hack it in the majors (though he went on to become General Manager of the Oakland A's).

"Beane was just sort of crushed by the pressure of the batter's box, just didn't have that sort of self-confidence, almost arrogance, just to know, 'I do this well. I'm fine. So what I just struck out, I'm going to hit next time,'" Stadler said.

Strawberry displayed the exact opposite reaction: "You can look at some of Strawberry's early interviews when he broke into the league and was struggling a little bit as player's naturally do, but he, even then he just said, 'I know I'm a good hitter. I'm going to hit plenty of home runs,'" Stadler said. "He just wasn't worried about the pressure."

What makes up what Stadler calls a "baseball personality" like Strawberry's was described by personality test called the Athletic Motivation Inventory (AMI) developed by William Winslow, still used by many baseball teams today to sort out which players have the personality traits it takes to succeed in major-league baseball.

The traits that seemed to be most important in baseball were some of the ones Strawberry clearly displayed: self-confidence, mental toughness (or how well a player rebounds from failure), emotional control in stressful situations and a slight tendency toward aggression (in this context, the desire to make things happen).

Strawberry's self-confidence and mental toughness are particularly apparent in his comments and are critical traits in a major-league hitter.

"If you're a hitter, you fail two-thirds of the time, so you can imagine why self-confidence would be really important," Stadler said. "You have to keep, sort of keep plowing through, even though you just struck out four times in a game or something"

These traits are the same that are important in individual sports such as tennis and golf, not other team sports, because of the importance of the one-on-one match-up between a pitcher and a hitter in baseball.

Player variability

When a player starts to have a spate of really bad or good games, fans can get involved in the psychology of "streaks" or "slumps". But Stadler says that research has shown that these supposed trends are really a matter of fans not taking in the big picture.

"It's hard for the fan to take that really long view and keep in mind the player's whole career as opposed to just the last few games' performance," he said.

Fans also tend to ignore how much baseball statistics can mask a players' actual performance. A hitter may have a sub-par batting average, though he is still hitting balls really hard—they're just hit to fielders who catch them.

In his book, Stadler mentions an interview with pitcher Greg Maddux after a streak of no-hit innings, where Maddux said he just got lucky because some guys hit balls really hard, but hit them right at a fielder.

"I think the players can kind of see that distinction in ways that, you know, because they've been around the game so much, that fans … might not be able to see that as the players are," Stadler said.

Stadler said there's a little more credence to the slump theory because a player might let his poor performance get to him and over-think his actions, so that "he's thinking about how he's swinging the bat, and that kind of self-focus really disrupts performance of something that should be a smooth and fluid skill and doesn't really need that much thought," Stadler said, sort of like if you tried to think about all the steps involved in tying your shoe.

Outside factors can also potentially affect a player's performance—the year before free agency, players often perform better, which seems to suggest that it acts as a motivation. Generally though, the extraordinary focus that players have helps them compartmentalize and keep their head in the game—even when Barry Bonds' father was dying, there was no discernible difference in his performance.

Another fan misconception is the existence of so-called clutch hitters, Stadler said. While certain hitting situations are more important in a game than others, hitters tend to try and keep them all the same in their minds, Stadler said. And when the sport of baseball is looked at as a whole, Major League Baseball is basically all one clutch-hitting situation.

"Most major league players, you know, they've risen to the top of this really steep pyramid of players, and they've kind of made the cut through high school, college, all the different levels of the minor leagues—by the time you've had such a really selective process, you've probably got almost, almost everybody there is really good at focusing under pressure," Stadler said. "So I would think that they're all pretty much clutch hitters."

http://www.livescience.com/4685-mind-games-great-baseball-player-great .html

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Ooo! Lookie here. The Brits appreciate Moneyball.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/race/moneyball-BAFTA-awards-longlist- 279093

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Ooo! Lookie here. The Brits appreciate Moneyball.

Hard to believe but the Brits actually won the inaugural World Baseball Championships in 1938, beating the USA in the final.The first and only time the Brits made the final.

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The US team was comprised of High School students (professionals were not allowed to play obviously) and the Great Britain team was probably 100% Canadian, and Canada has always been a baseball nation (not a cricket one).

Great Britain also did well in the Olympics in Ice Hockey in the early years it was competed. Why? Because their entire team was Canadian. Canada has only been an independent and sovereign nation for an eye blink. It remained a British Colonial possession well into the 20th century....and Britain plundered it to aid in games that people back on the island had no clue about. Sort of like Greece's Olympic baseball team....which consisted, I think entirely, of Greek-Americans and Greek-Canadians.

You can't think of it as baseball players from Leeds, Manchester, and Liverpool beating American Major League Baseball players. You have to think if it at 15-19 Year-Old American kids (of no professional caliber or talent)losing to Canadians from Toronto, Ottowa, Vancouver etc,etc. It was an upset, but not a big one....and sorted between exceptionally marginal/young non-professional players from two baseball nations

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Oh yeah, united states "football" is a great piece of *beep*

10 seconds of men grabbing each other
2 minutes of replays/advertising
10 seconds of men grabbing each other
2 minutes of replays/advertising
10 seconds of men grabbing each other
2 minutes of replays/advertising
10 seconds of men grabbing each other
2 minutes of replays/advertising
10 seconds of men grabbing each other
2 minutes of replays/advertising

That's "merica" "football"

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"Baseball- I believe only the Cubans and Japanese play or have any interest in it." lmao stopped reading after this little gem... you seem very informed about the situation..

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Baseball- I believe only the Cubans and Japanese play or have any interest in it." lmao stopped reading after this little gem... you seem very informed about the situation..


Please list the MAJOR sporting nations around the world where baseball is a major sport.I can think of only 2-the USA and Japan.

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Well, if you're asking me, I never claimed baseball had any appeal outside the US, Japan and the Caribbean. Quite the opposite.

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Please list the MAJOR sporting nations around the world where baseball is a major sport.I can think of only 2-the USA and Japan


Let's see.... The Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, South Korea, Mexico, Venezuela, just to name a few.....does that answer your question? Just because you find a sport boring doesn't mean that it is. I find soccer to be mind numbingly boring, but it's the most popular sport in the world so I'm obviously in the minority. I think the reason soccer hasn't caught on here is that we have more professional sports in this country than anywhere else.and soccer just cant compete. We have 4 major professional sports that rake in millions, if not billions in revenue every year. Most countries have 2 at most and don't make anywhere near that amount of money. So, "our" sports dont really need to be accepted by anyone else, they're doing just fine without the worldwide appeal that soccer has, the same way soccer is doing just fine without any real US popularity. I'll tell you what though, I'd rather have Alex Rodriguez's salary than whoever the highest paid soccer player is.

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The Dominican Republic, Cuba, Puerto Rico, South Korea, Mexico, Venezuela, just to name a few.....does that answer your question?

No it doesnt.I said MAJOR sporting Nations.

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No it doesnt.I said MAJOR sporting Nations.


Oh, and Japan is a MAJOR sports nation? What exactly constitutes a MAJOR sports nation to you?

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Oh, and Japan is a MAJOR sports nation? What exactly constitutes a MAJOR sports nation to you?

Please consult the following website: http://www.greatestsportingnation.com/

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US, Japan, Korea, starting to get up there in China, all of Latin America, and the Caribbean. If you would like I could name off the countries of Latin America and the Caribbean, but I will assume you have atlases in England or where ever you live...

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"Say what you want about America, but at least we never bought into the Soccer *beep*

-Bill Maher

::rolls around in fake pain for 20 minutes hoping for the ref to pull a colored card out of his wallet to present to an opposing player while the scoreboard remains 0-0 after 194 minutes of glorified keep-away::

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