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Lolita was naked because....


This is an awakening self reflection of a lonely man. The outside world sees him as a success, he is rich, has lots of ladies, and is very smart and he is to them Don Johnson, with out the T.

It is only he who realises his life is empty; he sees his neighbours life as full and successful with love and children. It is with his neighbour’s help he goes on a journey of self discovery.

As he walks down memory lane he finds a metaphor of his life played out in stages from youth to death. This walk though his life is a daunting downward spiral into the reality of a lonely life and love lost. This journey is played out in chronological order through each of his five past lovers.

1st Lover: Lolita is the shadow of what was once Sharon Stone. Lolita represents his early stage of life where sexual energy and wanton passion drives his forming of relationships. Youthful feminine beauty, the prospect of easy titillating adventures, propel his search for meaningless sexual liaisons. This leads him down a path in life as a Don Haun.
2nd lover: The once great passions of youth that could have been lovers forever are now lost memories in a life that has becoming sterile, asset building, and functional. The loss of his first and most fond love has been settled for second best in sad quest to avoid loneliness.
3rd lover: Is the denunciation of traditional love to seek desperate refuge in our own idiosyncratic peculiar insanities to the extreme of forming relationships with the absurd. The rejection of being hurt to many times, acceptance that love can only be found in dependable objects and in being cynical of what once was.
4th Lover: represents all the cold brutality that life hits you with in old age, the impossibility of forming new meaningful relationships when you are old. The ugly cruelty of age hits him hard, he is alone.

- Interlude of Flower Shop Girl: She is his caring nurse, almost a reflection on a retirement home, only cares out of pity for him. She nurses him through to death.

5th Lover: She is death.... in the grave….where he laments, alone, and cries.

It is only at the end of his journey, on finding death, that he is sad. But it is only when he thinks hes found his son, does he realise that he is truly lonely.

The biggest irony of this film is actually in these posts. All of you who are visually excited by the nakedness of Lolita, are invariably the ones that will read this post. Which is why I named it “Lolita was naked because.... “
I will suggest be careful because you are loitering around the 1st Lover stage…..

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you r one brilliant monster

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The first message board I checked was the one called 'The End' because, like most, my first reaction was asking myself, did I miss something?, why did the chubby guy stared? who wrote the letter?, and bassically wanted to get my ending answers cleared before I went to bed.. I didn't find what I was looking inside that post so while I scrolled down looking for a similar discussion about the ending this one grabbed my attention, obviusly.

Now, before I go to bed, I'd like to share some cheap wisdom that may help other people like myself to get some sleep; I think the end is open for a reasson, the whole movie is a transition, a journey like someone said, no previous life scenes, no future, just the part where he learns, so "journey" fits as a description. Not satisfied with the ending? try to picture the writter trying to picture and ending for his story. What reasson would he have to place a son in the plot and let us know if there was any woman at all? That would be like sayin' ty for watching my insight, here's a small treat so you can go happily back to your lifes. Life is about mistery and sometimes it's more surreal than fantasy, I like it better imagined that way. So thats it, maybe theres no answer at all and maybe we are all right and the writter prolly considered many of the assumptions made here when he was molding this great story, maybe he likes to mess with our brains to make us think from once in a while, that'd be awesome! he picks quality over blockbuster, that's becomming a weird habbit these days... thanxs for all the thoughts, they helped me to get the picture in a way and sorry for the misspelling I'll prolly have, my main language is spanish.

PS. Always wondered about the woodpecker stamp, I'm from south america so could anybody in the states provide any tips about it?, does it belong to a certain zip area or something? hehe, I'm still refusing to let go some questions...

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wow, nice theory and interpretation. I watched Jarmusch's The Limits of Control before this one, and had guessed that Broken Flowers may have a lot of metaphors all over it too.

but what's with the sport outfit he always wears in most of this film ? I still don't get it ...

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Excellent interpretation. amazing that Jarmusch wrote the script in 2 weeks when it has such density to it. Even the last 360 degree shot definitely proves that you are correct with him being truly lonely after his journey.

The end of the world doesn't seem so bad now that you're here.

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great post man you nailed it and i like the burn at the end there

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-Bram

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Great view, man. I think you really hit the mark, about the relationship between the lovers and the stage of relationships.

1 - Passion. Hot sex. Bonding. Everything is possible. And it seems as if there is no tomorrow. Life holds still.

2 - Passion has given way to tedium. Hidden frustration. Fear of leaving because of money and children problems.

3 - Fear has turned to a will to live life to the fullest. To experience fantasies which were kept hidden for many, many years. To regain lost time. It's the time when 40+ guys start chasing teenage girls. And many 40+ women experience lesbian sex and become promiscuous. The movie "American Beauty" is a good example of this stage.

4 - All the years lost in "fear of living" and "living live to the fullest" have finally shown. It's the time when people are finally forced to see their decadence and finally realize that death is near. It's the time when the excesses of the past are reflected on the health.

5 - Impotence, lack of libido, apathy, self-pity.

6 - Death.

Really great analysis, Coffe_Monster.

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Great job, (OP)Coffee Monster.

I would say though that your interpretation is excellent, except that you focused more on the daughter than the mother/ex-lover.

The first has no future planned, she is simply living one day at a time. She doesn't really care if he stays or goes, no commitment, no remorse. However, Don is only looking for his son, so he's back to being himself when he finds out she has only a daughter. There isn't much concern for her lost husband.

The second is what could have been. She obviously wanted to marry Don. At first, he doesn't seem to care until he sees the picture. Now he starts to see how her life is empty, her husband is economically sensible, her life is empty without children. Don seems to understand he would rather be single than trapped in an empty marriage.(Of course it may have turned out much different) We feel like Don, we want to get out of that house as soon as possible.

The third is insane, detached and probably lesbian. There is a sort of "I'm glad she's not the mother of my child" feeling. Don tries to be kind, offering dinner or a drink, but she refuses to be cordial. Her 'assistant' seems jealous, angry, spiteful. This could have been his marriage that ended in divorce.

The fourth is a tease from the writer as it appears she may be the one ( the last on the list). She could have been married to a computer-rich guy instead of trailer-trash. Her life is miserable, her attitude even worse. Some people seem really nice, as long as they have everything that they want. But a person's true character is shown under duress. Good riddance.

The last woman couldn't be the mother of his child as she died before the letter was written. But Don mourns her now that he would want to see her and she's gone, noticeably alone (no husband or child). This makes Don realize that this is his future, having no family, no marriage or children.

The teens in this picture (from the girls on the bus, the guys and Lolita and Sunny)are all viewed as 'this could have been my child' scenario. Don is so desperate for his son that he scares away what might have been his real child.

He really should try to get his last girlfriend back. She is the present. All of the past can not be regained.

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Lolita represents his early stage of life where sexual energy and wanton passion drives his forming of relationships.

Yes, but love and life is what you make it and you can have passion at any age/stage of your life, you just have to want it.

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