Every reason God is illogical and sick
- So, you either believe that God exists and is "...illogical and sick..." or you are an atheist arguing that God does not exist because of the various areas that you dislike about life.
1. He gave man the ability to have sex, made him to want sex 24/7 between the ages of 13 and 70 but cursed him with death and pain when he did have sex.
- He offers marriage exclusively between one man and one woman, when practiced, there are no sexually transmitted diseases.
2. He wants mankind to believe his existence so much, he damns all non-believers to hell, however he makes no attempt whatsoever to prove his existence by performing a miracle (something he apparently couldn’t stop doing in the dark ages) during the non-believer’s life and instead waits 70 odd years to judge them instead of just showing himself to all of man just once every hundred years.
- He provided the miracle of eternal life through faith in Jesus Christ. He doesn't not have to prove His existence to exist, see "Pascal's Wager" and "Anselm's Ontological Argument". Better still, see "The Bible": The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
3. He created man, a fragile and easy to damage being, only to create diseases, blood thirsty animals, anger, pain itself, old age and the subconscious desire to commit violence against others. In what world does that make sense?
- Originally, He created Paradise i.e. Eden, but man sinned by the one act of disobedience, eating the forbidden fruit. By that sin, "...diseases, blood thirsty animals, anger, pain itself, old age and the subconscious desire to commit violence against others" was unleashed into the world. Jesus committed one act of obedience, death on a cross, to secure salvation to all who believe in Him despite the depravity of the world.
4. If Adam and Eve spawned the entire human race, and he is supposed to be the one true God, why have different nations all heard of different Gods? Don’t just say “well they’re heretics” because they aren’t believing in different Gods just to insult and sin against the main one.
- This is revealed in Genesis. Cain murders Abel, turns his back on God, and goes out into the world to develop and survive without God. In the process, his descendants develop other religions. They either hear about God and reject Him, or haven't heard and believe in the false religious cults that developed.
5. He tells us not to commit violent acts when he will damn us to eternal agony if we do something that doesn’t necessarily have to harm others, it just has to be wrong from his point of view, even if it does no harm to other human beings or animals.
- That is His right, He is God and knows better than us how to discern good from evil. We don't have to like it or agree with Him, but that doesn't make Him wrong either. God doesn't have to align with our version of logic to exist or be ultimately logical in His choices and actions.
6. He told Abraham that the only way to prove his love for God was to murder his own son; that makes no sense.
- To the unbeliever or someone who doesn't consider the bigger picture it makes no sense, it is crystal clear to those who consider the central message and theme: be willing to sacrifice anything for God. He provided a ram for Abraham's sacrifice, it was for a testing of faith, God clearly never intended for Abraham to actually kill his only son. The point is to put God first in everything, and remember that all things originate with God and should never be idolized or valued above Him.
7. If Adam and Eve spawned the whole human race, we should all be deformed abominations, we have seen the result of inbreeding with our own eyes, unlike God’s proof he exists.
- God doesn't make it clear in the bible that they were the only 2 people. However, if they were, the purity of their bloodline would suffice until generations develop over time who could intermarry without deformity.
8. Why does he always just sit back and watch Osama Bin Laden and Adolf Hitler do what they dedicate their lives to? It was said when they began making medicine that God would be angry and unleash his wrath because diseases were his creations and medicines killed those creations, but when man kills other men (also God’s creations) he does nothing.
- God does intervene, but not perhaps in the way that we would like Him to. He allows horrible atrocities with full control over every soul killed to testify (in part) against man's desire for self godhood. Only God is God, we are not.
9. If we don’t spend EVERY Sunday praying to and worshiping him, he damns us to hell.
- This is a fallacy, not true. Salvation is not attained by doing, but by believing and responding to His love with good works. Works i.e. church attendance, helping others, living sacrificially etc. are a result of the salvation already received. One also can achieve eternal life by simply believing ex. the thief on the cross next to Jesus. However, in most cases we have an opportunity to respond to His love by doing good things for others in this life.
10. If you’re gay (something you cannot help) he damns you to hell.
- No, God loves gay people. The sin of homosexuality is not any worse than any other sin. It's just sin, gay people can choose not to have gay sex and God will accept the believing gay person. Some can even "pray away the gay".
11. If you desire vengeance against someone who wronged you first (doesn’t matter who they are or what they’ve done) God will damn you to hell, even though God himself has committed wrath on numerous occasions.
- God says to allow Him to avenge you on your behalf, rather than taking out your on revenge on someone who has wronged you. God's wrath is righteous, seldom if ever is man's wrath.
12. The Bible says violent acts must not be committed, yet some people still see fit to beat their children if they do not pray, torture non-believers to death (like Torquemada) and even crash planes full of POSSIBLE non-believers into buildings, also full of people who MIGHT not believe.
- God is ultimately in control, regardless of man's disobedience to His commands. People are free to sin, to choose not to follow God's commands.
13. If you kidnap a small child, rape, torture and murder them after holding them captive for twenty years and confess your crime to a priest, God will not punish you.
- This does not align with the bible at all. Priests are not the pathway to God, Jesus is the only High Priest, attorney if you will, who argues on our behalf to God. Therefore, the only provision for salvation is belief in His shed blood for the forgiveness of sins, a human priest from any religion has no power whatsoever to absolve anyone from their sins - only God can do that. Many child molesters pay dearly for their sin on this life - but they do have an opportunity to repent and believe - as do all sinners - which is all of us.
14. God says drugs are bad, yet he also saw fit to put them on Earth in the form of plants, made them easy to obtain and the only reason they shouldn’t be taken is because of the damage they do, damage he created them to do.
- I don't see in the bible where He says "drugs are bad". However, any drug abuse is obviously not desirable. He allows for choices so that we as independent beings have an opportunity to choose the good over the evil. Whether you believe in Him or not, this fact is undeniable: we all have a choice to make.
15. He banished Lucifer from Heaven only to put him in charge of Hell. Something that makes no sense.
- Not in the bible as far as I can see. He does put Satan - Lucifer - "in charge of our world", thus giving us an opportunity to believe in Him or not. Lucifer is the god of this world until Christ reclaims it and banishes him from it.
16. If he was able to flood the world and get rid of evil, why can’t he do that now?
- He can, but He chooses not to. He said that He wouldn't ever do it again afterwards, it's in Genesis. He also says that He will destroy the world with fire the next time, and create a new heaven and a new earth from the old.
17. The bible says he was able to do all kinds of wonderful and unbelievable things during the dark ages, why can’t he do any of those things now.
- He can and does do "...all kinds of wonderful and unbelievable things..." now, you just have to look for them.
18. Why does he allow believers to be targeted by genocidal maniacs, who he apparently took care in creating?
- Because sin is still prevalent in our world, Ultimately, he will avenge them.
19. The bible says bad things do not happen to good people who do good things, but if you spend your whole life doing nothing but good and just happen to come across a sadistic psycho, you will suffer a whole world of pain anyway.
- Ultimately, good prevails for those who believe.
20. Religious fanatics say god takes special care when creating each individual person, so that means he makes gay people on purpose, but still wishes to punish those who are gay for being gay.
- He loves gay people, He loves all sinners, that's why He died for them - because they are worth dying for. That includes gay people. However, He does not approve of homosexual behavior.
21. He prevented wars and intervened during battles in the dark ages, but isn’t doing that now.
- Yes He is.
22. If he controls who has power, why does he give bad people political power and rule over millions of lives.
- To reveal that man is not God, in part. He provided Saul, a poor leader, to be king over the nation of Israel before appointing David to show them that they didn't need a political leader.
23. He created earth in seven days, but is apparently planning to destroy the whole thing just because a few little details didn’t work out exactly how he wanted them to.
- He is God the creator of everything, that is His right. He does plan to create something better in its place, so I don't see the problem here.
24. When he allows something terrible to happen to innocent people, his excuse is that he simply works in mysterious ways, or it has something to do with a big plan he has for all of us. Which is stupid.
- What appears to man as foolishness sometimes is the very wisdom of God. You are free to call God stupid, He can obviously handle it, I choose to call Him wise. His question to you: "Where were you when I created everything? You think that you really understand wisdom better than I, God?"
25. Why create life only to also create death.
- Why not? Originally, they were created to live eternally in Paradise, but their sin condemned them and us all with them, to die once and then be judged.
26. If Satan was stripped of his powers, why was he able to take the form of a snake and convince Adam and Eve to have sex?
- It is implied that they were having sex before Satan deceived them. He was not a snake at first, God turned him into a snake as a punishment for deceiving them. Nowhere does Satan "convince Adam and Eve to have sex", God already commanded all life to have sex: "Be fruitful and multiply".
27. The bible contradicts itself repeatedly, it says you must not commit violent acts, if someone wrongs you then you must commit violence against them, don’t be violent or God will violate you.
- When you read it in context, this all becomes clear and there is no contradiction.
28. The bible says an eye for an eye and the world will be blind, but revenge isn’t really taking out each others eye and what about the few who have given others no reason to take out their eye in the first place.
- It's just saying that the punishment should fit the crime. It also says to love mercy and walk humbly with God, and that he who is without sin can cast the first stone. Since all have sinned, no one can cast stones.
29. Why did he give animals the need to kill?
- Why not? Killing isn't necessarily evil. I kill a fish and eat it, this is acceptable and not immoral.
30. If God says violence is bad, why does he wait for a person to commit millions of violent acts before punishing them?
- It depends on the situation. Some receive immediate punishment, others, later. He has reasons, some revealed, some not. He does not owe us an explanation, He is God. However, he will likely provide you with answers, but you must ask Him in faith.
31. The bible says he will punish evil and save the good, that doesn’t explain the Holocaust, the Spanish slaughter of the native Americans, crusades, the crimes of Torquemada, Ivan the Terrible, Vlad the Impaler, Caligula, Stalin and 911, slavery in America and Rome, sex trade, dictators, random murder for fun, crime lords and corrupt judges.
- Yes it does, think about it. All wrongdoing will be repaid, but not perhaps in the time or way that we believe is best. God knows better than we do about these things.
If you don't like the way God does things, reach out to Him in humility and let Him answer you. He will, when you come to Him from a sincere and humble heart.
More importantly, believe in Him and share His love with others.
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OttoVonB
9 years ago
A lot of flimsy logic in here, mostly in that your only way to prove parts of scripture true are by quoting other parts of scripture, which is a scientifically invalid way of arguing anything (one tests a hypothesis - for that is what the Bible is - not against itself but against observable fact). And when you wrote "pray away the gay", you lost any claims to being a serious thinker.
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