the official star wars fanbook states han solo is 32 in A New Hope. he would be 13 in Episode 3. but he doesn't believe in the force? where was he when the entire universe fell in a great battle of jedi and sith?
shareThat has always been my question.
shareWere the Jedi kind of secretive? Like people living at the time the Jedi were still around might not know they were real?
I agree though, everyone talks about them like they are part of ancient history in the original trilogy, when most of them were only wiped out about twenty years ago.
If a nine year old slave boy on a an obscure planet in the outer rim of the galaxy where "the Republic doesn't exist out here" knows what Jedi are and what they are capable of, then it's safe to assume the rest of the heavily populated areas know about the order that is headquartered on the capital planet in proximity to the Galactic Senate and deeply involved in galactic political affairs.
Watto even asked, "what are you? Some kind of Jedi waving your hand around like that? Mind tricks don't work on me" as though it were common knowledge what a Jedi was and how they behave.
Maybe they'd heard of Jedi but didn't think they were real? That's the only explanation I can think of for talking about them like they are legends from deep in the past. It's a pretty big stretch, though.
shareThose were different times. That was the time of the Old Republic and the Jedi were everywhere. Anakin probably heard of the Jedi through different traders that travelled through the planet.
By the time of ANH, the Jedi were gone for over 20 years and I am pretty sure the Empire went out of its way to prohibit any further news or information about them.
Besides, as I said before, Han didn’t say he didn’t believe the Jedi were real, just the force.
Even Luke didn’t know about the force until Obi-Wan explained it to him.
The post I responded to asked the question, "Were the Jedi kind of secretive? Like people living at the time the Jedi were still around might not know they were real?"
The Jedi were heavily involved in galactic politics and were well known in the most obscure places, by the most disconnected populations. My two examples indicate that clearly.
So, no the Jedi were not secretive. Yes, people living at the time they were still around did know they were real.
I think for people living on provincial worlds the Jedi would be like the Illuminati.
It's a big galaxy.
Easy: Solo got his news on facebook, where jedi were described as a new world order conspiracy conjured by space Soros, hence he doesn't believe in the force.
Is it too hard to believe that lots of people were mindfucked by the empire fake news machine?
Going by the film, Solo, Han was in Corelia. He was a thief working for a gang. I doubt he was following current intergalactic events. Especially at the age of 13.
He never said he didn’t know about the Jedi. He said he didn’t believe in the force. The two are not mutually exclusive. Many people know about Christ and Christians but don’t believe in God or the Holy Spirit.
By the time he got out of Corelia, the Jedi were long gone and he didn’t see any evidence of the force.
Even Luke didn’t know about the force until Obi-Wan explained it to him.
It's because the prequels hadn't been made yet.
The OT is in a completely different continuity to the prequels, so there all kind of things which don't line up, e.g. Anakin not being the greatest star pilot, Uncle Owen not thinking Anakin should have got involved, Obi-Wan not knowing about Leia, Qui-Gonn not existing, etc...
But people only worry about this with Star Wars - e.g. No one else expects Christian Bale's Batman to be the same as Michael Keaton's, we can watch the Gotham TV show and know it has nothing to do with either of these either, etc.
Because of a corrupt media like what we have here. Why do so many people who vote democrat have no idea about our open borders or Hunters laptop?
shareI think he remembers the Jedi, he just doesn't believe in the Force. If he spent his life on backwaters away from the action (I haven't read enough EU or anything (definitely didn't see Solo...) to know if there's an answer to this) he might not have seen their power in action.
One of the things that the PT did was up the power level of Jedi and Sith. They now just whip things around with their minds like it requires no effort, run at super-speed (sometimes...) and fight in precognition-fuelled ballet styles. It's one of the "Cool. But..." elements of the PT. Like Yoda fighting. It's cool. But... it becomes a problem when his philosophy was "Wars not make one great." Before, he was a philosopher-hermit, living apart from and "above" petty wars and violence. With the PT turning him into a front-line general, his "Wars not make one great," sounds more like sour grapes. At best, he had to learn this lesson at ~870 years old.
So, with the PT's extensive Force use, yeah, it's harder to believe. But it's still possible he just missed seeing it. Han is very "seeing is believing" at the start of A New Hope, so he might have just written off stories he heard as exaggerated fables.