It doesn't matter if it is for shock value or whatever. It is cruel, unnecessary and just sick. Now i know there are a lot of immature people who will respond with 'how cool' it is to see them die, etc. But honestly, it is not. This is just absolutley pathetic and should have never happened and should never happen again.
shareDidn't you ever kill a fly or mosquito and did you also whine about it when it happens in a film? Or are those animals not high enough in the food chain for you to contradict your argument?
Animals can get killed for fun (hunting, fishing, bullfight...) and they can be killed to eat. But if they get killed in a film it suddenly constitutes a problem?
'nough said...
PS: killing them to eat serves a purpose? Well you do not need meat to survive, so why do you think this holds water as an argument?
Haven't anybody been fishing? You get the fish and bang it's head to a rock. Plus if you have kids they might want to play with the fish and poke it with sticks and so for it. Nobody has ever whine about that! And like somebody said, that it would have costed more if they would've use special effects. They got two with one: realistic movie (with a shock valuable... what they wanted) and a dinner. And in school teachers showed us a video where pig gets slaughtered. There's a lot of that kind of movies and nobody complaining.
I facepalmed so hard to this board, that you can't believe it.
Sorry about my bad english
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Well, just because the Director says it was a bad idea doesn't necesarrily mean you have to agree but as it happens I do. I watched the film and the violent acts towards the films aside it was pretty good. But what they did to those animals was nasty. I'm not a vegetarian but some of the cruelty doled out against them was unnessecary. I don't care if they ate them or not. How do we know the actors didn't secretly take pleasure in what they did to them.
If you show an aninal being slaughtered it has to be within a certain context. Is it there to entertain(which would be sick) or there to instruct and to inform as in a documentary. I have nothing against a documentary detailing how an animal is slaughtered and that it is how it is carried out. It's good in a sense to get the vegetarians who harp on at you as to "Could you honestly eat a hamburger after what you just watched".
I've seen a chicken having it's neck broken on TV and witnessed what happens afterwards and do you know what, it didn't make a blind bit of difference to how I feel about eating them. It really didn't. But that's a sepeate matter and I'm straying from the point. If it had been well done and they made the killing of the animals look real even though it was fake then I would say fair play. I know some people would criticise even this but like it or not bad things happen to animals as well. It's not a pleasent thought but hey, it happens. A lot people take a more dim view of animals being killed in a fictional film more so than they might a person which I think is sad. I don't like seeing a dog or a cat hurt but hell, it's a part of life that this happens, not that I think we should condone or accept anything like this in real life but bad things happen to animals as they do humans.
The point of these scenes in their narrative context are there I think because a documentary was being filmed and these things were going to be witnessed and sadly the filmmakers indulge in some of the most horrendous acts and for the most apalling of reasons. Hell, they go as far as raping a native woman who is impaled upon a pole which was incredibly barbaric.
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I agree...I was so outraged when i read that the animals killed were actually slaughtered in reality...thats TOTALLY uncalled for...I don't think I want to watch this film anymore after reading this...it would break my heart seeing merciless, mindless salughtering of animals for entertainment
It may not happen n e more, but animal cruetly is still real and huge in reality...humans r so selfish...wish we could realise that they feel pain too!
It happens all the time. This just happened to be captured on film.
Deal with it.
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ok I havent seen this film, but to be killing animals for entertainment purposes should signal the demise of the human race. If a sea turtle were to be killed I'd make sure the director be killed in the same way too, then try and sell the footage so it could be banned and idiots would think it were cool.
shareThats a bit extreme. Place the actions in context and then you have to wonder why you would really find them so horrifying. I mean, animals are killed for food the world over every minute of every day. Some methods are obviously more humane than others but in this case we ARE watching animals being slaughtered, prepared, cooked and eaten. What's questionable is whether it should have been filmed and inserted into a fictional narrative for 'art', not whether it should have happened at all. For Ruggero Deodato to use the footage in this way is an issue, but there is no inherent cruelty in what is actually being shown. Unless you're a hardline vegan you can't really criticse footage like this for being upsetting when it shows the reality of killing animals, any animals, for food. I think some people just don't like to see what eating meat really entails. And yes, I eat meat myself and I'm comfortable with where it comes from.
shareFor people who say 'it happens in real life, get over it, etc'...
The purpose of the killings in this movie were for entertainment. Yes they were eaten but that's not why they were killed. It wasn't necessary to use real animals just to make the film more realistic. Also, if monkeys are hunted for food in real life, you wouldn't kill it by HACKING AT IT'S FACE. Which they did twice for this movie, by the way. Just to get the 'shot right'
Pray, what is this rustic hovel that presumes to superimpose itself on my gazebo?
I think very few people would disagree with you. The things is, however, that what's done is done, and the result, however awful its production, is godly.
shareYou people are ridiculous. It is a couple dead animals, not a big deal.
I eat lots of meat out of spite.
Exactly. To give a message, you have to do sacrifices. Would Cannibal Holocaust be that cult if it weren't for the animal murders ? I mean, I'm not sadist or anything but it's just what made the movie. Anyway some people fell shocked and want to watch the clean version (I'm not even sure it exists) good luck but remember : Life is violence.
"Wachu lookin' at, fool? Buy the goddamn book!" -Gary Coleman in Postal 2
They are dead. But in this film we get to see them get tortured (while still alive...) and then killed, forever and ever and ever.
That's the point.
Agreed with the OP. Animals should never be killed for the sake of a film. It is just as easy to fake an animal death as it is to fake a human death.
Just because you CAN does not mean you SHOULD. It's called right and wrong.
It's not easy to fake an animal death realistically when you're making an 80's Italian film without a lot of budget. I would be against animal deaths in any other movies weren't Cannibal Holocaust. In my opinion, this film serves a much larger purpose.
George W Bush : We'll just eat Froot loop... Oh Froot Loop I'm just kidding. We'll eat Cheney.
Do you really believe the animals gave a *beep* if it served some human invention like a movie a "larger purpose"?
How about some empathy anyone? There's enough cruelty in the world already.. Soon there's not any more room for it! But there's a huge gap left where there used to be some brain and heart.
What if it served a murderer's mind to kill again.. Does that serve a greater purpose then? And again, do you think the victims agreed and even perhaps feel lucky to be serving a "higher purpose" ending their lives for someone who's definitely not worth a single sacrifice?
God's always with the victim.
How does he see, hear etc. everything that we do?... Through OUR eyes, ears etc.
That's why executioners have always kept their faces hidden (with hoods etc.)
Reasons to behave good.
It serves a larger purpose because it denounces the cruelty of men. Looks like you're too prude to understand it. Will you forget about God for a second ? In every situation, do you ask yourself : "what would Jesus do or think?" If the answer is yes, that means you have no critical thinking. In that case I feel bad for you. Try to think for yourself : - Okay, killing animals is bad, it's even a sin. - But in a way , showing people killing animals in a disgusting way may stop anyone from doing it.
And something pretty obvious I just recalled : Christianity approves sacrifices : Didn't Jesus sacrifice himself for humanity and tolerance? You probably read the bible (I don't) but I know something : Jephthah sacrificed his daughter in gift for God. Abraham also sacrificed a ram... I could go on for an hour. What is one of the main messages in the Bible : respect and tolerance. So in a way Cannibal Holocaust has a tolerant message : 1) Don't be cruel towards animal because they have right to live too. And 2) Be tolerant and respect other cultures because, something I learned in Philosophy class : every culture is rightful, and actually, sacrifice or cannibalism can be a mark of respect in a lot of cultures.
George W Bush : We'll just eat Froot loop... Oh Froot Loop I'm just kidding. We'll eat Cheney.
grow some balls. Everything dies. Animals have been and will continue to be killed for entertainment , food , warmth , sport ect till man is gone off this earth. Im so tired of animal activists. its the food chain you sissies
shareCan I kill and eat you?
That is, after all, the food chain.
I still believe that peace and plenty and happiness can be worked out some way. I am a fool.
I accidentally stumbled across the animal killings and I was absolutely sickened I am no animal activist but it was torture what they did to them! If they thought that it was cool to do that I feel pity for them. I will never get the rat screams out of my head and I feel nauseous about it right now.
"Good,Bad, I'm the guy with the Gun!"
People without empathy are pathetic.
The Truth about eating, sleeping, and even breathing right
according to Jesus (Yeshua): http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html
Isn't that FAR OUT?
B.S. We kill animals and animals kill other animals. Animals kill for entertainment too (look at your cat when it catches a mouse or other small animal).
These made up morals are typical for people that can not face the true world, most of them are dumb christians who believe in something they have no proof for.
Only proves that you didn't even check out that link.
shareYeah, I'm sure that animals understand, and care, for what purpose they're being killed.
Yeah, killing an animal for the luxury of eating meat is so much more "noble" than for the luxury of entertainment.
Yeah, factory farming is not at all "unnecessary" and so much more humane than the quick deaths portrayed in film. Even better, you're not confronted with a visual depiction of the animal's death when you buy the product. Because that would make it "sick", wouldn't it?
Yeah, animals have fundamental rights, but only the ones who look cute and only if killing them hurts someone's feelings.
I think it is cool when I kill an animal and i see it die...especially since the little bastards have been ripping up my garbage and killing my *beep* chickens...and i think it is cool when i watch the 1 or 2 deer I kill every year die because I know I am gonna fill up my freezer with fresh meat.
shareIf you cook your food you truly KILL it.. That's the simple main reason I'm a vegetarian (eating LIVING raw food), not because I love cows. It's about taking care of yourself. You are what you eat. And your body is the temple of your thoughts, and your thoughts are your Soul.
shareFunny, this gets so much hate and venom spit its way, but the cow killing in Apocalypse Now is never brought up and the film itself is considered a classic.
shareI don't know how people can understand and even support animal killing for entertainment.
shareI never watched Apocalypse Now (maybe because of that, I dunno really)... Why would I support it? Didn't the Vietnam war teach us that unnecessary killings and suffering only results in post-traumatic stress disorders and suicides anyway, just like with every war (mass sacrifice for the Luciferian world "elite")? There are a LOT of idiots that are simply lacking empathy in this world, that doesn't mean you too should *beep* up your Karma by disappointing helpless lives instead of acting like a God yourself by helping out, and even getting the reward of feeling better afterward and having your true power confirmed. People without conscience seem less deserving of their lives than any animal featured in this "classic".
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But you can support buying a plastic toy that will be enjoyed for 30 minutes and thrown out when some 12 year old in Bangladesh has spent 12 hours a day making them. nice try hypocritical left wing animal nutter.
shareI'm no hypocrite. And I know about the unfairness in this world.
Did you know that there is about 500 000 times MORE slavery in the world today than ever in history, more wars, corruptions, etc.
Meaning: There's ENOUGH cruelty in the world as is. Performing extra cruelty towards helpless innocent animals is the most anti-God-like thing you can do, and completely unnecessary, and if you need this for entertainment, that says more about you than any of us "hypocritical left/right paradigm politics something blah blah". The left and right side is both mixed so that it doesn't matter who you vote for, but they continue controlling us. The left side consists of both the CONSERVATIVE belief in cooperation and the LIBERAL belief in Luciferian branching and disconnections (like sexual 'liberation' etc.), while the right side consists of both the liberal/'new' way of competition and being a selfish bastard (thinking power from money from wars) AND conservative stuff like religions and family. What a mix?!? Time to wake up. The kids have:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzz3OjOO8sI
The universe consists of nothing but Time and the Now, because planets are cores of sound (because sound waves takes the longest TIME, Earth uses one year around the Sun) and the Sun is a core of Light (because light is the fastest there is and that the Sun is always in the center, we can call that the NOW). Everything physical is only OF these two waves, but we call the two smallest examples atoms and electrons.. The pure Love (dependency) between our Sun and our Earth is what makes us 'physical', that the electrons rotate (use Time) around the atoms. That Love is God. This is what Jesus taught people living in Palestine, while despising the evil kings and popes and their religions.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essenes
He was just explaining the Truth of the reality of nature. How to eat, breathe, sleep, etc, and it's all for YOUR OWN GOOD:
http://www.essene.com/GospelOfPeace/peace1.html
If you don't check this out, you don't really have to bother bothering me anymore. It's not complicated. It's as simple as anything can be.
Freemasons war on Islam:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLroyYtbf1o
Palestine today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdX-iVsTtg