The worst film ever? - The Party (1968) Discussion

[–] rdsmith1957 19 years ago

Anyone who thinks this is the worst movie of all time has seen very few movies. Demi Moore's Striptease is the worst movie of all time. Even her artificially enlarged mammaries couldnt save it.

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[–] TrudyStagnant 19 years ago

This movie is just over the top.
1) Hollywood parody (almost evil in it subtlety in some parts)
2) Sellers satire of every Indian immigrant (even an inspiration for APU on Simpson's)
3) The House (they really made'em like that in California in the 60's)
4) General Stereotypes (Alcoholics, Fading Starlets, Casting Couch Divas, Drugs, Politics(notice at the end, the 'Congressman' is not in the least offended by the debauchery)

If you dislike this movie, I would suggest you get out of it what you bring with you. Sellers is incredibly skilled, so much so, that his caricatures/characters practically define the era.

Those who were bored by the first 10 minutes, THAT IS THE POINT...Hollywood is infiltrated by overacting, lack of imagination and fakery.

It's also pretty intereting to see B-actor Gavin McCleod as an evil producer.

That movie is like watching a train wreck in slow motion...just watched it again this week...classic.

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[–] Jimbo52 19 years ago

This movie is SO funny, I can even overlook the presence of the insipid Claudine Longet.

I was rolling with laughter at the opening "Gunga Din" sequence where Sellers' character refuses to drop his bugle and expire after being "shot"(as per the script). Before long, his comrades are even shooting at him!

At the party, the stand-out is Steve Franken (previously "Chatsworth Osborne, Jr." in "Dobie Gillis) as the drunk waiter who continually trashes the spirit of the formal dinner.

Of course, Sellers' characterization as the inept East Indian actor finding himself where he shouldn't be is the classic "fish out of water" story.

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[–] t-mieczkowski 19 years ago

laf, you obviously haven't seen many movies. i found the movie's plot fairly poor, but found sellers quite excellent.

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[–] inoldhollywood 19 years ago

The movie has no plot to speak of... and neither does an actual party... which is the point... it is supposed to be spontanious and the humor is just in the event itself. Many "A" films can be considered "classics" without having a plot. "2001: A Space Odyssey", "Top Hat", "Mon Oncle", "Dreams", "Invitation to the Dance" and many others have little or no plot but perhaps that's not really important. Yeah, it's rare, but this is one of those films that a plot might have actually been in the way. Just another way a film can be made, if the maker is skilled. Blake Edwards certainly succeeded in my book. I have seen this movie a dozen times and always laugh. Nearly everyone I have shared it with has also found the film to be a delightful romp. It's not vulgar, cheap or over-the-top... just doggone funny for most of us.

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[–] t-mieczkowski 19 years ago

well put. tonight is one big laugh.. fun and laugh.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Please, this film is a waste.... of film

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Peter Sellers IS a comedy genius. This film IS a cult classic. If you don't like them you don't have a sense of humor, which is OK. But if you think Blake Edwards is not a genius, you are just ignorant.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Please stop taking mind altering drugs

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

What's up? Can't someone have a different opinion than yours? Or are you the ultimate reference on everything funny.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Certainly they can. But I am worried about your grasp on reality!

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Well, pin a rose on you.

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[–] t-mieczkowski 19 years ago

typical troll. if it's so poor, why would you waste multiple days of your short life posting on imdb about it?

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Or if I am a troll, why bother replying? The fact is this movie is awful and theres no harm in expressing a valid opinion

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Don't feel bad, hjr. A lot of people have no sense of humor.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

It must be quite an affliction, not being able to tell the difference between a funny film and total tripe. Still, maybe its a skill you can acquire with practise

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Go practise then.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

I know the difference between a good film and a rubbish one. Would you like a lesson to get you started?

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Can Woody Allen and Mike Myers also come to your lessons? They don't seem to know what's funny either. Woody Allen claims Seller possessed 'the funniness of genius'. And Mike Myers cited the party as one of his 'favorite films'.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Just because someone has made a sucessful film it doesnt mean they are the final arbiter on what is good and what is not. Also you have to remember that the film industry is a political industry and people might not always be saying what they really think about something. Make a note of that, its in lesson 6. I would recommend you enrol.

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Try the lessons yourself. You're the one that obviously needs them.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Go on do the course! Maybe they will give you a discount because of your special needs? :-)

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Let me get this straight. What you're saying is that Woody Allen and Mike Myers are kissing Seller's ass because they are part of a film industry conspiracy to make this unfunny guy into a comedian genius. And everyone is buying it because they're on some hallucinogenic drug. That's why you've decided to begin a course to try and convince people about the truth. Wow!

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

He hasn't given his reasons in the above 20 posts, so I don't think he'll give them now.

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[–] bsy 19 years ago

hjr2000: Where's my fricking cup of coffee you loser!

People, don't bother. He was obviously deprived as a child and is taking it out on Sellers. God, I love this MB.

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

He's entitled to his opinion, of course, even if he doesn't explain why. But to post it over and over again is just stupid.

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[–] arvstor_00 19 years ago

Are you saying tripe isn't funny? Have you ever seen "Underwater City"?

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[–] speewitz 19 years ago

Re: The worst film ever?
by - hjr2000 (Wed Aug 31 2005 14:01:20 )
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Please stop taking mind altering drugs

STOP EATING PAINT

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Why? Its more fun than watching this utterly rubbish film!

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[–] eriknieminen 19 years ago

*sign*

it's almost the point of the film to make the first 20 min. pretty dull...

if they weren't.... how would the rest of the film have looked?

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

What kind of wierd logic is that? 'It was almost the point to make the first 20 min dull'. Thats completely daft, i cant imagine anyone deliberately making the first 20 mins dull - thats when you have to really engage your audience. The first 5 minutes in actual fact.
The fact of the matter is that this film is completely awful and anyone who thinks differently has had a common sense bypass.

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[–] kooji_kabuto 19 years ago

Hey genius, we get it. You don't like the film. We do. You think we're stupid fot liking it. We get that too. Why keep posting it over and over again?

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[–] bsy 19 years ago

hjr2000 is ignoring you cause he's getting me a cup of joe. Hey, moron! Where's my coffee!!!?? Hahahaha!!!

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[–] MaLgOoFaH 19 years ago

the movie is dragging and sllow but funny!

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[–] dmahmoudieh 19 years ago

It's official. The World has gone mad. Anybody who makes such a comment about a masterpiece as cinematically iconic as this needs to pull their head firmly out of their own ass. As for the cinematography -- it's supposed to be that way, that's the whole reason why they filmed in a wide-angle format, to capture the full sphere of Sellar's surroundings.

I urge anyone who dislikes this film to go and seek professional help.

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[–] Matrix-vs-Bennett 19 years ago

This is the bloody longest thread i've ever seen

People say that The Party starts off boring, but one must understand that it is the true way to get the most out of Peter Sellers' character. This is also why you don't have the biggest fight scene, the biggest explosion and the big pash near the start of an action film. Characters, themes and many other variables need time to grow.

My opinion, great movie

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[–] adamillingworth 19 years ago

you have missed the point of this film Spectacularly! It is just a snowball of comedy carnage. compare the first 20min of posh-hushed-tones party with the painted elephant in the hippy filled bubble bath lounge finale. And you call this dullness?!

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

its duller than listening to paint dry without even opening the tin. like i have said 10 times already if you cant hold your audience for the first twenty dont make films. can you imagine spielberg boring his audience in the first 20. can you imagine a bond film with 20 minutes of dullness before the maurice binder titles?

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[–] themiragemaker 19 years ago

You have to respect another person's opinions if you want someone to respect the fact that you have one as well.
If this movie or any movie for that matter is "good" or "bad" is a very subjective matter. It's film - it is an art form - some will love it and some will hate it. Get used to it.

It's funny that this hjr2000 says this is the worst comedy ever, poor direction, didn't watch it completely, how he likes to spend every waking moment learning something new from all aspects of life even if it be film because he musn't waste his precious time on nonsensical drivel such as this....

And yet he logs onto IMDB everyday, visits The Party thread and spends all his time typing big words (for him) like 'boring', 'dull' and 'it' and about how he had to turn it off because he's wasn't learning and absorbing new facts and knowledge, etc.

The others are here because they loved this film.
What are you doing here you loser?

Atleast give a good argument.

Are you learning enough from typing the same sentences over and over?

Get a life.....seriously. It concerns me that you spend so much time bashing a movie that you didn't even like.
How about stepping away from the "innurnet's" forums and going out and making some new friends or in your case maybe complain to the police officer about how the orange between the red and green traffic light is affecting your busy schedule for the day.

P.S. Your copy of Gigli's in the mail along with your "Make the best use of your time" 6 hour audiobook. Bring milk and cookies.

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[–] eriknieminen 19 years ago

you can't compare a Spielberg blockbuster or a Bond film to this.... completely, totally different styles of film making. I think certain films cater to a certain audience...

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[–] HopeAndGlory 19 years ago

hjr2000: Why are you putting so much energy on bashing this movie? It seems to me that you love this movie, or otherwise you would not post as much as you do?. But, if you truely think this movie sucks than you have no sense of humour at all.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

I do have a sense of humour thats why i dont like the film. Whereas people like you are so in awe of an image changing every 25 seconds that you think anything thats put in front you is great.

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[–] arvstor_00 19 years ago

Perhaps this explains the problem with your viewing of "The Party". If the image on your television set changes every 25 seconds then there is a serious problem with your television reception or there is a very terrible problem with how your brain interprets the image on the television set. You may need to have your television examined or you may need to see a neurologist.

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[–] speewitz 19 years ago

duller than listening to paint dry without even opening the tin.
YOU WOULD KNOW THIS

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[–] arvstor_00 19 years ago

Watch "Rublev" by Andrei Tarkovsky.

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[–] kerby4u 19 years ago

You are an idiot. 20 minutes of a film and you deduce the film sucks. You have as much insight as an onion...get a little imaginationa and a sense of humour, or perhaps you just cant comprehend the slapstick gags...moron.

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[–] hjr2000 19 years ago

Another single brain celled comment from the trailer parks of America. Go back to your illegal relationship with your sister.

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[–] cosmicfarmer 19 years ago

Well, the opening of the movie is a little tiresome (Seller's carachter dying repeatedly,although the accidental explosion is sort of funny). But I remember laughing my ass off at the rest of this movie as a kid. I haven't seen it in a while, though. Good to see it's on DVD, I'll try to find it and see if my opinion has changed.

As far as the first twenty minutes "debate", plenty of movies have had great openings and bore you with an hour or more of crap: Superman III, Austin Powers Goldmember, just to name a couple.

Did you drink and dial? -Sideways

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[–] seanybhoy19 19 years ago

i would have to disagree with ur opinion on the opening first 10 or so minutes. i thought it woz hilarious!!! come on sellers with the signal of the trumpet and his own men shooting him and the dramatic dying process was very funny.

the whole movie woz very slapstick and is still a classic comedy.

the party in my opinion rates with the pink panther collection, blake edwards and peter sellers were a winning combination.

not the worst film by a long shot.

love,
seanybhoy.

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[–] arvstor_00 19 years ago

Whereas many trailer parks in America (Mexico, Brazil, Argentina?) may have single celled organisms I cannot think of any organism with a complex organization of ganglia that could conceivably be called a 'brain'. A ganglia would be composed of many neural cells therefor calling into question the possible existence of a single brain celled comment. Even the most ignorant comment takes millions of brain cells to be communicated. Also there is no proof that trailer parks in the Americas (Canada, too?) exclusively induce illegal relationships with sisters. If you truly believe that you can alter the opinions of fine Confederates in the United States you are most welcome to make your way to any community proudly displaying the Confederate flag and announce your opinion of their relationships with their sisters or their single brain celled comments.

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[–] LoneWolfAndCub 19 years ago

See, this is what annoys me about you people. You think you can comment on a movie you haven't seen all the way through.

You sound like a bloody 13 year old that can't apprecitate intelligent humour and watches sh!t like Dude Where's My Car? to entertain yourself.

This movie is comedy at its best. The opening scene is very funny. Almost every scene has some kind of humour, just because it isn't gut-busting laughs every minute doens't mean it's bad. Look at its rating. It seems the smart majority like this film. Peter Sellers is a comic genious.

"Movies don't create psychos, movies make psychos more creative" Billy Loomis

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