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Will HBO's expose have a lasting effect on his legacy?


With 'the two week maximum' attention span of today's news cycle, adding to the fact that Michael Jackson is dead (Bill Cosby is still alive)… so I don't see it having legs.

His music is so damn good.

Unless some video tape evidence comes out, or numerous famous black artist denounce him, I don't think much will change.

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I doubt there will be any lasting effect on his legacy. His being a pedophile has been common knowledge and it did not stop him from continuing to be a superstar.

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For me it has to do with the skeeviness of Jackson's own behaviour. What grown man takes other people's children on trips all over the world without the parents for one. And for two, I remember the day he died Quincy Jones was on MSNBC talking to the anchor on air at that time. I remember Jones saying that he never agreed with the skin lightening, the plastic surgeries, or the hanging out with children. Jones indicted him as sure as anything by stating that. In my opinion Jackson was effed up. As much by Joe as he was his own behaviour. Ironically while Jackson claimed to be Peter Pan/Mickey Mouse, he was a cutthroat when it came to his business practices. He stole the Beatles library out from under his "friend" Paul McCartney then acted all coy about having done it. This push and pull mentality made me stop being his fan. I was a huge one during the 80s. Had his albums, the ones with the Jackson 5, a tee shirt, all the singles, videos, and even a sequined glove I made on my own. So I'm coming from being a former fan. I don't have those things anymore because his own behaviour caused me not to be a fan anymore. I do believe some of what Wade and James said happened. But to me Jackson made his own bed and to me, he's now lying in it. I stopped being his fan in the 90s and by the 00s, I was solidly believing he was some sort of predator. Too much smoke not to be fire.

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I think there's enough stuff out there which puts the accusers' credibility in doubt that this won't do much to damage MJ's legacy as it is. Having said that - MJs legacy is not exactly spotless. The dude did end up weird - surgeries, holding teen boys hands during interviews, having children who don't have a bit of his dna in them. He may have been asexual, but he could also have been pedo - and there are plenty of accusations of him being pedo that there'll always be doubt - but one thing is certain, he didn't grow up to be normal in terms of his sexual preferences and his personality. He was, for lack of the better word, abnormal - and not necessarily in a good way. So that's his legacy, outside his music.

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I think you phrased it perfectly, but let me stress again that this hbo thing is a one sided speech of two guys accusing a dead man, so I don't see it having any importance over his "legacy".
Which consisted of him being weird and loving it during the bigger half of his carreer.
Nothing substantial nor new was added to it.

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Weird? Loving it?

I think you should ask yourself why it's so important to you to talk like this about a man, who has been dead for ten years...

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Why do you think so?
It's not really important to me at all, I couldn't give less of a fuck, but I'm curious to know why you think that.

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And how is him having surgeries or even holding a boy's hand any of your business? And did you take a DNA test on his kids to prove that they're not biologically his?

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Are you joking?

Him having surgeries - he ended up looking very odd, at best.
Him holding teen boys hands during interviews, it's not my business - weirder stuff happened in ancient greece, but it was odd behavior by today's standards. His odd mannerism and child-like behavior even in his 40's further cemented the view that was abnormal. As for his kids - open your eyes for for a brief millisecond. Look at ANY other child who has black father and white mother - compare. Be blown away by a sudden realization that something is seriously off.


Alas - from the way you've formed your question, I suspect that no amount of proof will be enough for you to see that he was unlike most other people (and I'm not talking about his musical talent which was great - but he was eccentric in his behavior and his appearance alike)

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I think this is practically the perfect way to describe Michael Jackson. He had a lot of trauma when he was young, he was a sensitive child being teased/tormented by his brothers and his dad was known for physically abusing him as well. Michael almost certainly had stunted growth(emotionally), he probably never grew up. Plus, let's remember when you're a pop music star of his magnitude you're going to be surrounded by people who only say yes, and his family was parasitic.
I read a fantastic book about Michael Jackson's death titled: "83 Minutes: The Doctor, the Damage, and the Shocking Death of Michael Jackson". It was very thorough about almost every single event in MJ's life, and paid particular attention to his disabling/deforming burns from his accident in the Pepsi commercial. He was terribly addicted to opiods from there on out, a total of about 25 years.
I could go on and on. After reading that 83 Minutes book I agree with the conclusion that the Pepsi commercial was the beginning of the end. Michael entered what so many other people enter; a long, deadly, downward spiral of addiction and dysfunction with an almost certain tragic outcome.

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Thank you! Yes, when you think of all the things, that Michael had to go through in his lifetime, it is no wonder that he wasn't "normal". Why can't these haters just accept that he wasn't an average Joe and leave him alone, especially now that ten years have passed since he left us?

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It's really not the "people" that need to accept and leave him alone it is the media that have been playing us all along. HBO, ABC, National Enquirer and other tabloids and on and on have been making these movies and/or documentaries that pull our heartstrings back and forth. Fame is a monster and looking back it's sad that so much of it was just the heat of the moment..a monster that destroys a person by a thousand cuts.

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Sure, it is true that the media deserves some of the blame. Then again, people should be able to think for themselves and see that attacking a dead man is just pathetic.

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This just shows how much the media controls our minds. They're very sophisticated and honestly, most people are not. If the media reported on the really big issues, like obesity for example, then we'd live in a far, far, different and better world.

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