Remember: we return to Standard Time (id est, REAL Earth time) in the US at 2 AM on 7 November. Turn your timepieces back 1 hour.
Ben Franklin was cool, but Daylight Saving Time ranks right up there with the Electoral College, Esperanto and Ebonics as a fuckwitted idea. How could the guy who discovered electricity not foresee the advent of artificial illumination?
Ben Franklin was cool, but Daylight Saving Time ranks right up there with the Electoral College, Esperanto and Ebonics as a fuckwitted idea.
Really? I prefer when the sun goes down late in the day.
shareI hate sunshine. That's why I'm so miserable and bored in the summer. Give me a dark, snowy winter all year 'round.
shareWow. I actually love waking up early enough to see the sun rise. Do you supplement with vitamin D?
shareNo. I leave the house the same amount whether it's winter or summer, but I'm happier in the winter. I noticed I have a spring in my step and I can think more clearly.
shareI prefer the cold, but there is something that I've always loved about it still being light at 11 pm at the end of June here.
shareOmg, I found my soulmate. I absolutely love winter & the cold. I'm considered the 'weirdo' of my friends group. They absolutely love & can't get enough of summer.
Not a fan of summer & the freaking heat. Not one bit. I literally count down the day till it's over. If I could live in a place where it's winter all year round, I genuinely would.
I'd love to live somewhere where it's always winter too. And I can relate to people thinking I'm weird. People associate sunshine and summer with happiness, but for me it is so long and depressing. I noticed I tend to watch more movies during the summer because I want the time to pass faster. I'm savouring the next few months because I know once these colder seasons are over, it's back to the dread of the summer heat.
shareFor some reason, Time just seems to move much much slower during the summer months for me. While it feels like we just fast forward through winter. Wtf is up with that?!
shareHell yes; another summer hater here. I too am seen as some outlier by some because my default position isn't summer/sun/heat = happiness. They see summer in some mythical abstract sense of endless leisure time on breezy beaches and fun in the water. I see it in a day-to-day practical sense where where we're 200 miles from the ocean, and summer means working in muggy oppressive weather that has my clothes sticking to me and sweat gushing off of me just standing idle there, with physical activity making it exponentially worse.
During the summer, I'm outside doing stuff only for the the necessary chores and errands. I get enough of melting in the heat at my job. Central A/C makes catching up on my reading and movie binging possible. During autumn and winter, I embrace the outdoors. Even working my butt off doing chores feels great in the bracing cool air: I feel so energetic and can work and play hard without breaking a sweat. Plus, I breathe in and intake dense oxygen laden fresh air instead of soggy marmalade-like mud that passes for air in the summer.
Short days and cool air: Bring it on!!! Jimmy Buffet can put on insulated coveralls and heavy boots.
I honestly start 'hating myself' during the summer months. I don't like the summer heat nor the summer air. I abhor it all.
"Come breathe the fresh summer air", yeah, I'd rather not.
I barely accomplish anything during these months. I hate every minute that I'm not sitting under a fan or AC. Also, the summers are getting hotter every year. Which is another pain in the butt
Theoretically, I like the idea of drudging around in the wet rain and cold, or even snow, but one has to have the requisite gear (clothing) to do so, and a habitable domicile to return to. It's not that simple these days.
shareI had to Google Ebonics. Can you give me an example of what it is? And why is it a fuckwitt idea?
shareNot sure about other countries but in Britain they change the times so the farmers had more light in the morning during ww2. They used to change it twice in the summer.
No idea why we still do it. For 5 or 6 years now they said they will stop it and we would be on permanent summertime, but the clocks went back last weekend again.
I hate that it's dark at 4:30 pm 😒
"I hate that it's dark at 4:30 pm."
It's called the change of seasons. Until scientists can discover a way to stop the earth from tilting on its axis, there are going to be times of the year with less daylight and conversely other times with less darkness. Tampering with the clocks doesn't change this. And farmers get up at sunrise regardless of how the time is set. Animals must be fed and cows milked at the same point of the day; livestock don't read clocks.
Maybe this is part of the reason why God created the seasons. A little something for everyone.
Good riddance! We are finally correcting the mistake we make every springtime. DST has got to be one of the most idiotic concepts ever implemented. It doesn't "save energy" or "help the farmers" or accomplish any of the other myths that continue to be perpetuated. And it should have ended a week ago, but thanks to the U.S. Congress it got extended into November starting in 2007. Canada had to follow suit.
There were rumors that the big candy manufacturers were behind this, thinking it would increase the sales of Halloween treats. What they failed to realize was that Halloween events take place after dark. When the clocks are set wrong, kids lose an hour of trick-or-treating time, especially when the holiday falls on a school night and they must be home early. I wonder if this is why we now see Halloween candy displays up in stores in late July/early August. Are they trying to make up for the lost sales after the holiday was ruined?
I must admit that the government has done a great brainwashing job on the general public. They've managed to get people to believe the days magically become longer when they reset their clocks. Sorry... the time of sunset is relative to the tilt of the Earth on its axis. The sun is going to set at the point of the day appropriate to the season, and a day is still going to be 24 hours in length. With DST you are merely getting up an hour earlier, which creates the illusion of a "longer day." I've heard people complain about "the sun setting an hour earlier when we go off DST." The sun didn't move... you just had your clock set incorrectly. Seriously... do they still teach science in the schools?
The sad thing is, next March we will make the same mistake and tamper with the clocks again. People never learn.
Agreed, and add me to the list of DST haters.
The principle of it is just so brazenly lame, as if the public would be naive enough to not see the artificiality of it all. I remember read a funny quote from a native American's reaction to it, and said it would be like cutting off part of one end of a blanket and then sewing on to the opposite end...How true! Also, as some others in this thread have alluded to, it's the insidiousness of how the PTB push this as some benign magic tweak that's a boon for the country when the end game of those pushing it is just to make us workaholics.
Over the years...decades, I've noticed how they've moved the beginning date of DST time earlier and earlier in the years, and ended it later and later in the year. For me, the only good part of DST is when it ends, and while that first day's extra hour is nice, the feeling of a little extra time fades quickly. When DST begins however, that single day's loss of an hour kicks my arse, and I'm dragging for 3 to 4 days afterward.
Yes, it used to run from the last Sunday of April to the last Sunday of October; six months of true time and six month of DST. It was always a stupid idea, but at least it was a compromise.
DST is a ruse perpetuated by the government. When you reset the clocks, all you are doing is getting up one hour earlier. This creates the illusion of a "longer day," and people continue to fall for this. Why don't we just leave everything on Standard Time (the true time) and let those who wish to pursue that mythical "longer day" get up an hour earlier in the spring and summer? Employers could be encouraged to offer earlier starting and quitting times during this period.
Just stop this nonsense of resetting the clocks and living on artificial time.
This:
"Why don't we just leave everything on Standard Time (the true time) and let those who wish to pursue that mythical "longer day" get up an hour earlier in the spring and summer?"
Excellent point! It would be unequivocally the fairest solution, certainly compared to the current one where we live under the relative tyranny by a minority...albeit a powerful and influential one.
"DST is a ruse perpetuated by the government. When you reset the clocks, all you are doing is getting up one hour earlier. This creates the illusion of a "longer day," and people continue to fall for this. "
I've had this discussion with you last year and you just don't seem to get it. People don't actually believe the day gets longer, it's about how much daylight you have at the end of the day. If I get off from work at 5 pm, I simply have an extra hour of daylight to enjoy. Fact. Most people actually seem to prefer DST and it might be best if we go with that whole year round.
I certainly am in favor of year round Daylight Time. I like the extra light in the evening.
Jonathon_k80 continues to argue the point that people think the days are actually longer and that Daylight Time is artificial time. He just doesn't like it which is fine, but let it go at that.
i would say pick one or the other and stay with it. i would probably lean toward DST at this point. getting dark at 4pm in the dead of winter is not very appealing.
shareSorry, but DST is artificial time. Here is the definition of "noon." This is from Wikipedia but other sources will say the exact same thing: Solar noon is the time when the Sun appears to contact the local celestial meridian. This is when the Sun reaches its apparent highest point in the sky, at 12 noon apparent solar time and can be observed using a sundial. The local or clock time of solar noon depends on the longitude and date."
This is the origin of the term "high noon." When it's noon and the clocks are set for 1:00pm, this is artificial time. If you like "the extra light in the evening" you are automatically getting that during the spring and summer months when the amount of time between noon and sunset are longer. There is no reason to mess with the clocks every springtime.
I would argue that all time is somewhat artificial because we use time zones. The sun rises and sets earlier on the eastern edge of the zone than on the western edge. On the very western edge of a zone, it may be 12 noon and right on the other side it's 11am. Unless a sundial is used to determine the exact time based on the overhead position of the sun, then everything else is not exact, so stop quibbling over Daylight time not being valid.
shareYes there are variances due to time zones. And solar noon fluctuates throughout the year, due to a slight "wobble" of the Earth's axis. DST adds an unnecessary extra hour of error to this.
shareYou could go into work early and get off at 4:00pm and still have the "extra hour of daylight." There would be no need to change the clocks every springtime, and then have to correct this error every fall.
share"You could go into work early"
No, I could not. What kind of insane society are you imagining where everybody goes to work and leaves whenever they want???
I was talking about employers offering early starting and quitting times during the spring and summer months. I didn't mean everyone coming and going at random. That would be chaotic.
shareLol, sweetie, that's hardly any different. There would still be chaos and our economy simply doesn't work that way. The best solution would be for peole like you to put on dark shades an hour before sunset.
shareIt would be no more chaotic than the disruption of our lives every time we reset the clocks.
shareWhile I personally would like to see us switch to DST permenantly, your proposal would be far more chaotic. Because as it is now, everybody has gotten over their jetlag after a day or so and we're all following the same schedule as before. Not so when half of a company has different working hours for 6 months.
shareThe entire company would be working the same hours, not half.
shareStop being silly. You yourself proposed that any employee can choose to come to work an hour early and leave an hour early. No company can function like that with employees all working at different hours of the day. I suspect you've never had a job...
shareI didn't mean "any employee." I was suggesting an alternative to DST that would be a compromise. Leave the clocks on Standard Time but encourage employers to offer early starting/quitting times during the spring and summer. Those who absolutely must have that "extra hour" of daylight would have it.
shareAgain, according to your plan there would be employees working at different hours of the day, which would be too chaotic and not very efficient. Also, good luck convincing business owners to get up an hour early just to open up their business for a few employees who want to come in early.
shareAnd on real time.
shareI myself don't like it much. I live in Illinois. I admit I am an early riser since a lot of the time I work 7am to 3:30pm. In fact, I am lucky now if I can sleep past 6am. I admit I agree with others in this topic that it sucks that it gets dark so early after the time change in November. My state had been going to stop doing daylight savings time but unfortunately because of Covid last year every politician in my state decided that it wasn't important enough to get the rest of Congress in DC to approve it. Yeah. In order for a state to go off daylight savings time Congress has to approve it. It just wasn't a priority because of Covid.
Still though my brother did point out to me that without it it would eventually not be getting light out until 9am.
I don't care whether we stay on DST or standard time. Just pick one and stick with it.
I've worked several 3rd shift jobs and believe me, it can really mess with you if you're working the night of the change. Gee, let's see...when can I go home? Um...🤔