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Work is a bitch but it's what we must do to keep the lights on
Homeless or working...I choose work๐
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I've worked in a number of toxic/hostile environments, survived them all and eventually triumphed with an early retirement. I'm now enjoying the freedom you're hinting at but I got here through blood, sweat and tears, and paying my dues.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvEexTomE1I
What are these mysterious "dues" and to who are they paid ? And for that matter to who are they owed and for what are they owed ?
It's just a figure of speech referring to the normal responsibilities and "accountability" in life we all deal with. Nothing mysterious about them whatsoever. Maybe you're just being nit-picky and have a burr in you underwear once again?
shareNothing mysterious about it and yet you failed to answer a single one of my questions about it so it's just as mysterious as it was. I repeat "accountability" to who and for what ?
Sheesh! Sorry I assumed you were intelligent enough to understand what "figure of speech" means. (eye-roll)
shareI know what a "figure of speech" is but it doesn't do anything to answer my questions it just adds more obscurity.
You're a special sort of dimwit...
shareStrange disagreement there, I bet everyone else knew what db was talking about
shareMy impression was he meant enduring the drudgery of the 9-5 ratrace; getting up early, facing the long commute, putting up with the office politics, getting browbeaten by the boss, working late for no extra pay, getting home late, missing out on stuff outside of work, paying taxes, putting up with crap - you know, the usual things that most people have experienced at some point in their lives.
shareI'm the dimwit and yet no-one can, or will, answer the questions.
I'll make an attempt ...
There exists a certain mindset in many people which makes us grateful for what we have and ambitious for more of the same...'Paying Dues' is simply a term which means we can strive to get more and do our daily work...it's not terribly complicated
It's all tied into our Social Contract where we all must work and support a society
At the end of the work day a lot of people like to look at their property and belongings with a bit of pride...'I earned this by doing my job, and I will continue to...'
Thanks for the answer. I have developed a habit of drilling down to the bedrock of things. Your's is the answer I was expecting. The tip of the iceberg where it's all nice and white.
But of course there's much more to it than that in the larger part that's hidden below the surface. What becomes of the people who are judged to have not "paid their dues" ?
You're welcome
Questioning things is not a negative habit so keep at it
"Everybody's got their dues in life to pay..." - Dream On-Aerosmith
I used the expression in the same generalized manner as in that song. Idioms in our culture with similar meanings are, "you play, you pay" or "paying the piper".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilZPZawbw5w
This style of argument is lost on most people, you have to explain it first.
Effectively, i believe, Quasimodo is saying that we've only gotten accustom to having to deal with working for a living and that the figure of speech is more of a way of just saying "that's just the way it is"... so Quasimodo is asking "but why is it that way." With an implication that we should change it.
I'd say though that Capitalism has proven itself to be the number one way of raising people out of poverty and bringing them into the middle class. The downside of not living a life of poverty is that if you want to keep living that life you need to work hard for some person who has even more money than you.
There are plenty of people who would choose to live the life of poverty over living a life of hard work and luxury... it's not that anyone is owed anything so much that if you want to live in luxury then you need to figure out some way of getting above the basic needs of poverty. Some people choose to rob banks instead of work for an employer, but robbing banks is still its own kind of hard work and the consequences for getting caught is hard time.
I would not aspire to homelessness.
shareI was "on the verge" of homelessness once simply because the housing market was tight and I couldn't find a rental and I was running out of time on the house I was in because the owner was going to demolish it and rebuild. Not a pleasant feeling so I can only imagine how awful actually being homeless is.
Toxic work environment any day. I've worked in them before. Still here.
shareWork is toxic for the time you spend there. The streets are toxic 24/7.
shareWhat an idiotic question.
Try being "homeless on the street," then tell us your answer. ๐