I mean, on one hand unisex restrooms can solve the problem of "who goes where" by eliminating the need to choose altogether. But on the other hand, people of one gender may not like sharing rest rooms with those of another gender.
Curious what your thoughts are about this.
I am totally against this example of idiotic wokery. Women and girls, mothers and their babies need their own public restrooms that men and boys can keep out of except for emergencies. And that is that !
Why do women and girls need their own restrooms? What goes on in the women's bathroom that must be kept secret? Do women strip naked in the middle of the washroom?
shareAllaby, you are an idiot.
Why? Why am I an idiot? Please explain (and use simple, easy to understand words).
shareWomen and girls, mothers and their babies need their own public restrooms that men and boys can keep out of except for emergencies. And that is that !
Why are you an idiot ? Because you apparently can't understand the above simple, clear explanation written in easy to understand words, that why.
I, too, would like to know why women and girls, mothers and their babies need their own public restrooms?
shareThis exchange is hilarious!
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You're not an idiot. You're wonderful. And it is a perfectly rational question to which I do not have an answer.
shareYou're being called an idiot, because you're trying to be cute in not understanding the obvious--that it's not about women needing to have their own bathrooms because they have a secret but not wanting to see men's dicks at open urinals.
ETA: BTW, I'm open to the idea of "unisex" bathrooms, if only to enjoy the look of nausea and disgust when the men who are oh, so obsessed with sharing a bathroom with females encounter the occasional gross sight of a toilet set left behind by a sloppy woman on her period. :-)
And that's why I mentioned in my other comment that I was okay with it as long as there are stalls. A unisex washroom would not have open urinals obviously.
shareWhat about the fact that men would also have to deal with the grossness of women having their periods (in which some women, unfortunately, don't properly clean up after themselves or leave behind a noxious odor)?
Or the fact that men never leave the toilet seat down?
Or the fact that men never leave the toilet seat down?
about that...
whats the problem with leaving the seat up?
and which seat do you mean ?
the lower the upper or both?
I think you could definitely have urinals in a unisex bathroom, and SHOULD, as long as they have fairly deep partitions on the sides of the urinals. All women would see of the guys pissing would be their fully clothed backs. Plus, it would cut down on men carelessly spraying all over the seats and floors in the stalls. I imagine women would probably appreciate that very much.
shareMen should be happy having their own restrooms. Women's restrooms have long lines and toilet paper all over the place.
shareMothers bring their very young sons into the Ladies restroom and fathers bring their very young daughters into the Men's restroom. It happens all the time.
Never go to France! Men and women share the same sink area. It's surprising the first time, but no big deal once you get used to it.
I think unisex restrooms are a bad idea in the U.S. because of the threat of rape. Too many sickos.
Yes, us Yankee lads are simply wild about rape, it's the true national pastime, forget baseball๐
shareNearly 1 in 5 women have experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime.
1 in 3 female rape victims experienced it for the first time between 11-17 years old.
1 in 8 female rape victims reported that it occurred before age 10.
The official numbers are likely an underestimate because many cases go unreported.
https://www.cdc.gov/injury/features/sexual-violence/index.html
Yeah, no kidding...
Why the need to specify the US?
Would unisex bathrooms be a fine idea in France or Mexico or Russia?
Sex crimes are unique to The States??
"Yankee lads are simply wild about rape, it's the true national pastime, forget baseball"
According to the CDC statistics, your above comment appears to be the situation in the U.S..
If you have rape statistics about France, Mexico, Russia or any other foreign country where I don't live, feel free to share.
First of all to hell with the once respected CDC and WHO, events of the last year prove that heads should roll in both organizations as they failed terribly at their jobs
When you single out the US as being a playground for perverts you stated all you needed to to let me know what your agenda is๐
You provided no stats to compare.
Public nor private restrooms exist everywhere:
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l3hdA3ZG5RM
Do your own homework
shareToilet music video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sx1oUF2nDCE
Thatโs awful, but not really relevant to the question of unisex bathrooms. Thereโs no evidence to suggest that sexual assault would increase in unisex bathrooms. If someone is a predator, the sign on the door of the bathroom wouldnโt make any difference. A predator could walk in to any public bathroom at anytime if they wanted. Unisex bathrooms might actually be more safe than gender specific.
shareThat's an interesting point. No studies yet.
Presently, a woman will walk out if she sees a man because he doesn't belong there. The predator won't risk entry because he has no idea how many women are inside.
But a predator could hangout in a unisex bathroom until a woman is alone after others have left. An easier opportunity. It's illegal for adults without children to be in some playgrounds. Same premise.
Opponents are also concerned about the issue of harassment.
I think that the design of current public washrooms isn't great for unisex washrooms. I've commented about my high school washrooms being unisex and that was from 30 years ago. (Full walls surrounding a toilet with a full locking door, and sinks were completely open to the hallways) A lot of newer restaurants have washrooms that I think would be just fine being unisex, if one is worried about peeping, as they have stalls with walls that go from floor to ceiling , and a full locking door. Entrance to the washrooms themselves have no doors. So sound would travel if someone were in trouble, predator or a simple health issue.
Your comment about a predator hanging out in wait really doesn't make a difference to me if it's a unisex washroom or not. If someone had to intent to harm, they could hide in a stall in a woman's washroom now and lay in wait. I personally think that a unisex washroom would be less appealing to a predator because a predator wouldn't know if the next person to walk in would be a big burly man capable of real harm or not.
As you can tell I like the idea of unisex washrooms, but that being said, they need to be done correctly. We have an art house movie theatre that just changed their washrooms to unisex while making no changes to them at all. Those are a little awkward as one still has urinals, and I totally understand why some would feel uncomfortable using them. With the right design though, I have no issues as they aren't anything new to me.
"If someone had to intent to harm, they could hide in a stall in a woman's washroom now and lay in wait."
Women check under the stalls for feet and closed doors.
It doesn't have to be one predator. There could be a lookout.
Another issue is women don't want men around when they're primping.
Design, location and culture are everything.
My point is that although women do check, if a stall is occupied do you leave? I don't. I can't tell by shoes alone who is in a stall?
I'm just curious how many people are attacked in washrooms for this to be such a big issue? I'm not criticizing you. I'm honestly curious. I do understand your fears, and I'm not saying that they are baseless, but I do think that while opportunity does play into some attacks, I don't think that whether the washroom is unisex will make a difference.
I don't care who is around while I'm primping. I usually don't do much in public washrooms anyways. I will sometimes brush my hair and maybe reapply lip gloss, but that's it. If a male sees that I don't care.
I live in a high-crime area. I've been to a few scary public restrooms which weren't safe for men or women since I was a kid. The local movie theater had one which was isolated in a basement area, dark, deserted with a long history of crime. The men and women's were at least distant from each other. Only a fool went there alone. Reality is most violent crime is committed by men and women are physically weaker making them more vulnerable.
shareI understand what you are saying, but those instances that you brought up really have nothing to do with unisex washrooms.
Please do not misunderstand me, and think that I am saying that crimes against women do not happen. Survivor myself, and I will say that my views might be tainted as having a separate space did not help me the one time. So perhaps I think that I might have been safer if there were men around.
I also do not have an issue with having separate washrooms, but I do worry about the safety of trans individuals in washrooms. I worry about them a lot more than myself. I do not think that trans women are safe using the men's room, and I also don't think that trans men are safe using the men's room. So, I would rather share my space with them to make sure that they are not attacked. If sharing my space means that we need unisex washrooms, then that just makes them more appealing.
Transgender is a totally different issue. I don't have any problem with their using the same restroom as their new gender. That may be less of an issue where I am.
A transgendered person can be attacked in a unisex bathroom, too. My office building has a transgender public restroom.
I understand that it's a separate issue, but also the reason for the push for unisex washrooms, and like I said, one of the reasons why I would be happy to have unisex. Not that it would stop attacks as much as there wouldn't be attacks on people just because they are using one washroom over another.
shareNearly 1 in 5 women have experienced completed or attempted rape during their lifetime.
The official numbers are likely an underestimate because many cases go unreported.
I would say that 1 in 5 is a conservative number. Just because rapes are reported to police does not mean that they aren't reported to doctors or sexual assault crisis centres. A lot of people, men especially, don't want to report because they don't want to continually have to relive that moment, or they feel that they won't be believed. I mean really, how do you prove it when a woman rapes a man? How do you prove that it wasn't consensual when there isn't vaginal or anal bruising or tearing? Or the defense just says that you wanted it a little rough?
Even when rapes are reported less than 50% of those are actually prosecuted, and even fewer are convicted. So many victims just say "Why bother?"
I'm fine with it, as long as there are stalls with doors that lock.
shareI wouldn't care if men were cleaner. There's a reason why mens bathrooms smell terrible, pee everywhere.
shareThat happens because some men are too lazy or too bloody minded or too stupid to flush the urinal after they use it.
we can be disgusting.
shareWhen I was younger I worked at quite a few restaurants and at a couple museums over the years and part of my duties were to clean the bathrooms. Both are equally disgusting. Men pee everywhere, both don't know how to crap in the toilet, both don't how to flush a toilet, women leave toilet paper everywhere and sometimes used tampons, and women tend to overflow the toilet more often due to excessive toilet paper use.
shareIโd prefer not to walk into a restroom and make a woman feel uncomfortable with my presence. I have no problem with single unisex restrooms where everyone is private and safe but as far as shared spaces go I donโt see any reason to combine them.
shareAnd I might add that the real reason this idea is being pushed by some is to use it as a Trojan Horse to advance "transexual rights" and the Woke Agenda.
My high school had unisex washrooms. That was 30 years ago. The toilets were in a small stall which full walls from floor to celling with locking doors. The sinks were in an area that was open to the hallways. I felt much safer using those washrooms than I did the washrooms in jr high which were your typical public washroom with stalls that opened at the top and the bottom in a private room.
shareMost of the unisex bathrooms I've noticed - in fact, all of them - have been for a single, lone person who can lock the door from the inside, so I don't find it's an issue.
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