Infrastructure is also collapsing like sidewalks buckling.
Thousands have been dying in hotter areas like Africa and the Middle East all along because of rising temperatures.
What will make ALL people and governments take Global Warming seriously?
Lead by example..turn off your AC/unplug your fridge and other electronics/stop driving, flying/get rid of anything in your house made from oil (including plastics), hunt or grow your own food.
Until then STFU
Humans are very selfish sadly. They don't realize shitting out more kids heightens this issue as well since these are MAN-MADE causes yet we still pump so many out. If anything, depopulation is a good control as you've seen when the pandemic hit and everyone was forced into their homes where nature started retaking the streets.
And yes, when the Summer hits, people immediately turn up the AC (which affects the Ozone) as well as all the electronics we use. Humans are so selfish they need to buy NEW PHONES every 6-12 months then stream it on Youtube to get views for $$$. Oh oh and Bitcoin mining for $$$. All about them Benjamins. They don't really care. Those pushing for electric also have a heavy hand on the investments into them as well. From stocks to insider trade deals to being swayed by certain companies to choose them to lead the front and get a nice cut off the profits.
My coworkers were talking about how they wished they waited to get vaxxed for all the cash and prizes. I asked them if they thought the coercion campaigns were even remotely creepy and unusual for an experimental substance, with no long term studies whatsoever, and a range of crazy adverse reactions.
They looked at me like I was crazy, then went back to talking about what they would spend the prize money on. This society worships the TV, and the dollar. It's disgusting.
man-made climate change causes have been debunked. Get new science.
shareWow, you sure shut everyone up with that salvo. Give us some more !
(that's sarcasm in case I need to point it out)
I dont care. Im just gonna keep saying it until you environMENTAL Earthies get some new material. It's debunked. There's no hole in the Ozone, the polar bears are not stranded on Ice cubes, the polar ice caps arent getting smaller, and every other lie you bundles of sticks keep crying about, each year. The only real thing that's happening to Earth is the desertification thanks draining all the ground water to make soy and almond milk for the soyboys and feminazis. So they're actually killing the planet. Not gas guzzlers or Carbon footprint b.s.
shareDo we have to ban the sun now?
share"The Sun is ReeeeeAcist" - Leftist probably
shareAnd someone actually gave you a "well said"? smh
shareGet some salve for your butthurt
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I don't, that's why I just insult him. All he deserves
shareOne has to have a nimble mind. Sorry for your lack.
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If you are asking me to put you on Ignore I will happily. Then some other dummy gets out of purgatory. That's a win-win, except for me.
shareI took two Carbon Footprint Calculators and passed with flying colors.
1.
That is my entire household:
Your Carbon Footprint
Annual CO2 emissions (lbs.)
Your Current Total:
10,090
New Total After
Your Planned Actions:
2,423
U.S. Average*:
18,435
https://www3.epa.gov/carbon-footprint-calculator/
2.
For me:
Your footprint is 1.41 metric tons per year
The average footprint for people in United States is 16.49 metric tons
The average for the European Union is about 6.4 metric tons
The average worldwide carbon footprint is about 4.8 metric tons
The worldwide target to combat climate change is 0 metric tons
https://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx
Obviously, I don't have to STFU.
I already had been doing most things for a low carbon footprint before that term was created. Your turn!
you still take warm showers and live in a air conditioned/heated house, turn off all the breakers and save the planet!
shareI drive a hybrid and I use solar energy, I bet KKKeelai doesn’t do a damn thing to help the environment. He’s far more comfortable sitting on his fat ass and bitching.
shareThis is a very helpful comment (sarcasm)
Looking at the Big Picture, taking Science and Facts into account, lets take a Solitary Internet Poster and Out them while we know Nothing about you and your lies. Yeah, you are the Honorable Actor here? What an effing joke.
Yeah I do more for the environment than you do as well. You are pathetic
share"Day to day weather is not an indication of climate change!!!"
- Climate Alarmists
I never said it was.
Do YOU know the difference between weather and climate?
I know you didn't, but that's what I hear from Climate Zealots. All. The. Time.
I'm playing by their rules, so I dunno what to tell you. Take it up with them.
Do YOU know the difference between weather and climate?
You don't appear to know the difference between the weather and climate.
Wage gap between whom?
You don't. Finding isolated incidents of extreme WEATHER is not evidence of the impact of humans on climate. So stop.
shareAlso temperature has gone up 1.7 degrees in the past 170 years. The changes are not noticeable over the course of a couple of years
shareNot true. Like a politician, you're repeating false information.
shareActually you're right, what I said isn't true, it's only gone up less than 1.5 degrees
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instrumental_temperature_record#/media/File:20200324_Global_average_temperature_-_NASA-GISS_HadCrut_NOAA_Japan_BerkeleyE.svg
zoom out further.
shareI don’t have to, I said that temperature went up less than 1.5 degrees in the past 150 years and it did. I’ve seen the graphs from the past 2000 years and they say the same thing
shareThats called cherry picking. You look at your charts and your graphs and you think they tell you something but you ignore Sun Activity and blame everything but the actual cause. None of your info is credible or meaningful. You and the people you listen to dont understand REAL science.
shareUhhh I didn’t cherry pick anything , I said temperature went up less than 1.5 degrees since the civil war and I was right. No one is going to notice the effects over a couple of years. That was my claim numb nuts. I didn’t say anything about solar activity. What exactly is your premise? You haven’t made that clear. My premise is despite the fact that Global Warming is happening the left is clearly politicizing the issue and lying about it to gain power. They are also using it as an excuse to deflect blame from their own failed policies, example: the left says global warming is the reason why the border is so out of control.
shareJust believe whatever you want to. I guess that's what the rest of us do so ... just don't be so loud about it, because it isn't helpful.
shareYou don't Hear from Climate Zealots all the time. You make them up or seek them out. Either way, it's a disgusting LIE that just promotes the Idiocracy that surrounds the GOP these days.
shareHow dare you!
https://youtu.be/xVlRompc1yE
She's right. Adults are continuing to ruin the world for young children who will end up suffering for it.
Last year, the air was so clean during the shutdown.
Agreed, as adults we should do more like stop using toilets. I propose that we poop in public and on the street. This will save water and humanity.
shareWe could go back to using a privy filled with lime. They smell so good and you don’t know what’s crawling underneath the seat. Saving the water from flushing is saving the planet.
Reminds me of the time my dad owned a fish came in Florida. His aunt was visiting as she loved to fish. Everyone was sitting outside, too hot to be indoors, no AC. Auntie had to use the privy. Anyhow, all of a sudden they heard the biggest scream coming from the privy. They looked, the door burst open and there was Aunie screaming with her drawers down around her ankles! A snake was curled up by the privy hole! LOL! 🤣😂😅 Poor Auntie!
poor auntie! too bad you didnt have a camera, you could have made 10,000 bucks, lol
The heatwave melted power cables, too. Even if people had A/C, they wouldn't be able to use it. People are being evacuated from areas because of the heatwave. In Russia, building infrastructure is failing because of their heatwave.
It's a precursor of what's to come for everyone including you.
I blame dementia Joe and his failed policies. We need to revert to a pre 1800 lifestyle, this will save the Earth in only a few years.
shareYou're confused!
Your senile sociopath Trump quit the Paris Agreement, promoted fossil fuels and wanted the U.S. brought back to the 1800s.
Biden rejoined the Paris Agreement and has a green plan which creates jobs, creates new infrastructure for a green future, and leads the U.S. as a global innovator in renewable energy.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2021/04/22/fact-sheet-president-biden-sets-2030-greenhouse-gas-pollution-reduction-target-aimed-at-creating-good-paying-union-jobs-and-securing-u-s-leadership-on-clean-energy-technologies/
You must be the biggest idiot I have ever seen.
Even if we completely go back to the pre industrial lifestyle how do we control the rest of the world? China, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Indonesia? All those major oil producing countries? They will do little or nothing!
You think this is just some white western thing?
Biden has a green plan? He cannot make it to the toilet without soiling his pants.
Ageism is still bigotry!
We move FORWARD with green energy innovation which has already started. We should be the leaders!
Click on the prior link for the plan.
That is the libtard way!
Like borat!
https://youtu.be/iw8mQK-hN-k
It was cleaner, but not much.
shareIt does get hot in the desert!
shareIt's not a desert.
shareI was referring to Africa and the Middle East. So far the record holder is here in the U. S. The Mohave Desert at 134 degrees F.
shareThe hundreds of Canadians who died were not in a desert.
shareLook very carefully…😳 Once again I was referring to you writing about Africa & the Middle East. I did not reply about Canada!
shareMy topic is about Canada.
Btw, the Mohave Desert is in the U.S..
I’m well aware the Mohave Desert is in the U. S. If you read my reply I stated so. Believe it or not there are those of us who do have knowledge. You are aware you aren’t the only person in the world who does. We know you present yourself as the “Know-all, See-all” Keelai.
"Once again I was referring to you writing about Africa & the Middle East."
The Mohave Desert isn't in Africa nor the Middle East.
Plenty of moviechat posters are intelligent. You're just not one of them.
Are you having difficulty in reading this morning? The following is my reply to you yesterday.
[–] kspkap (9194) 13 hours ago
I was referring to Africa and the Middle East. So far the record holder is here in the U. S. The Mohave Desert at 134 degrees F.
[–] kspkap (9194) an hour ago
I’m well aware the Mohave Desert is in the U. S. If you read my reply I stated so. Believe it or not there are those of us who do have knowledge. You are aware you aren’t the only person in the world who does. We know you present yourself as the “Know-all, See-all” Keelai.
Deflection. Try to stay on topic next time.
shareThis is part of your OP.
”Thousands have been dying in hotter areas like Africa and the Middle East all along because of rising temperatures.”
If you don’t wish for posters to comment on any part of your OP…don’t include it in your OP…you officious nitwit!
If you think you are going to win in any Intellectual Challenge with anyone that walks on two legs, you should reconsider your position.
shareWhy the hell are you debating the finer points of the subject of the thread?
Obviously, you don't care about the actual subject or whether their is Climate Change or where the Mojave Desert is in relation to the Middle East.
All you want to do is Prop Up every retarded angle the Wrong Wing comes up with, regardless of how Anti-Social, Immoral and Anti-American it is.
They should have drank more water.
shareI doubt it is really that hot in Canada.
shareYou're making my point. Canada isn't supposed to be that hot.
shareCanada gets extremely hot in the summer. Shows how little you know about climate and its causes.
shareSure it does, but not too early in June and not too late in September. Things are out of whack, and it's obvious to anyone who cares about such things.
shareHaving one out of whack summer isnt indicative of ANYTHING. Only women and other alarmists over dramatize that shit (besides those tricksters gaming people into doing things against their own interest). Let me know when you menstruate and have cramps, Im scared of the Bears.
shareI mean I wish only Climate Change deniers were the victims, but it's usually the poor who are. Those who don't have access to AC, etc. I know in the NW many don't think they needed AC, but now they do.
The irony is that Chump, who leads millions of deniers, has had Mar-a-lago reenforced specifically to stop the effects of climate change. So the Fascist leaders do know it's real; they just don't care because they're rich enough to save themselves from it.
14,000 yrs ago 98% of Canada was buried under ice up to 2 km thick.
I bet they've had thousands of heat waves since then.
This doesn't mean that we aren't influencing Climate and that there isn't Evidence of it. There is !
Sure, climate has changed in geologic time, but we are talking about OUR OWN LIFETIMES, and the evidence is that we are causing it. How obdurate and obtuse can one be to argue this?
What is the beef, anyway? We WANT to burn more fossil fuels? We WANT less efficiency?
God, some people want to bitch because we put up signs to Slow Down For Children. It impedes their Freedom ?
What will make ALL people and governments take Global Warming seriously?Not this heatwave:
The 1936 heat wave killed 780 Canadians - 376 males and 404 females, most of whom were elderly and infants.Granted, this was at a time when people weren’t as protected by modern amenities, but heat domes over specific regions are nothing new, and are not necessarily an indicator of CO2-driven climate change. It’s merely random meteorological weather.
And if ‘global warming’ is such a new and unprecedented phenomenon, then what caused the deadly European heatwave of 1911, which ran 70 days from July to September and killed more than 40,000 people in Paris alone, mostly babies
The deadliest heatwaves in history coincide with Solar Minimums.For a broader context and scope of thought, also consider the information and videos throughout the remainder of this post. Don't dismiss without thoroughly reading, watching and contemplating. Don't believe it either. Always question. Be persistently skeptical. Of everything. Don’t fall into the trap of belief, which is very easy to do in groups due to escalating feedback loops that push aside critical thinking.
I must say, however, that I’m not sure we can rely on sporadic ice core readings (i.e. there simply isn’t nearly enough data yet from them) any more than we can trust computer models of the future laden with humanly programmed bias. But at least ice core readings are real-world measurements, as opposed to predictions that have been proven wrong time and time again over the decades, with each subsequent dire prediction going unmaterialized. Many more points of data via ice core samples are needed to get a more accurate picture. Which dovetails into my point about people needing to stop believing for or against CO2-driven climate change.
Don’t believe the narrative, but don’t dismiss the possibility, either. That’s how a scientist thinks. Nothing is ever settled. Ever. Any other mindset is unscientific, and therefore invalidated by bias, by belief.
https://foresight.org/some-historical-perspective/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/12/28/2010-where-does-it-fit-in-the-warmest-year-list/
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/08/surprising-pulses-ancient-warming-found-antarctic-ice-samples
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/09/hockey-stick-observed-in-noaa-ice-core-data/
https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm
I know some people tend to dismiss Tony Heller out of hand, but don’t—listen to the actual information first and then make an informed conclusion based on the data presented, data that can be verified, and that climate change activists try to hide (which should be a tell-tale sign of corruption for anyone pondering the subject without bias). Watch these at 1.5X speed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTYTnxMYI_o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTYWsp43Bao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4vl2tGCkCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8baGuCrpsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGRUsHDIxpw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3M6AaXv4iI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGL2cjnn7kM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo7zXGxKbqA
The bottom line is that climate change needs to be scientifically studied, but not believed. Yes, it should be taken seriously, but so should opposing theories and thought. Unfortunately, it’s been a belief for decades now, completely obscuring any semblance of actual scientific thought, while actively suppressing and “cancelling” anyone who questions it (a big red flag that reveals it’s not a science, but a religion). String theory suffers the same problem, but of course isn’t as widespread with the public, and therefore isn’t nearly as dangerous. But it’s fallen prey to the same cognitive processes of belief and bias, combined with those in power or receiving funding, which traps them into a cycle of needing to perpetuate a false narrative lest such power and money be cut off.
Anytime the questioning of a theory is shut down without equal consideration, it’s not a science. It’s religion.
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You're confusing weather and climate.
This science has already been settled and it's obvious we're experiencing Global Warming. Hundreds of millions of dollars from Big Oil to bankroll lies, blogs nor youtube videos from strangers with no credentials change that.
I don't know the reason why "conservatives" have a serious problem with accepting reality. You were in denial about Covid-19 being dangerous which killed 600,000+ Americans, too. And your delusions allowed January 6th violent attack on the Capitol to take place.
You're confusing weather and climate.Actually you did with your OP by conflating this regional heat dome with climate change, which I addressed in my reply. In other words, you’re claiming the heat dome is climate change, when in fact it’s merely a weather event.
I don't know the reason why "conservatives" have a serious problem with accepting reality.Because some who identify as "conservative", "liberal", "progressive", or any group label, are tribalistic believers, and therefore subject to confirmation-bias engendered group-think.
you were in denial about Covid-19 being dangerous which killed 600,000+ Americans, too.I was? Where's you're evidence of that? To the contrary, my past posts prove otherwise. I did highly question the efficacy of cloth masks against a .1 to .3 micron virus, however.
your delusions allowed January 6th violent attack on the Capitol to take placeAgain to the contrary, I condemned the actions on Jan 6th, just as I condemned the many months of rioting, destruction and death throughout the 2020 summer.
Your second line proves you don't know the difference between climate and weather.
Conservatives are the ones who believe in Q-Anon, the Big Lie, Fox lies and exaggerations about the justice movement during the summer and that Covid isn't serious.
If you believe differently, then convince your radicalized pals before they make matters worst with their continued support of sociopath Trump and trumpism, not wearing masks nor getting vaccinated and calling for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government according to polls.
It's obvious you don't accept rreality. I'm going to assume your fear is so great that you need to be in denial in order to cope. That doesn't help anyone.
Your original post proves you don't know the difference between climate and weather.
Progressive are the ones who believe in Antifa, the Big Lie (i.e. Russiagate), CNN lies and exaggerations about the BLM movement during the summer and that COVID didn't come from a lab in Wuhan.
If you believe differently, then convince your radicalized pals before they make matters worst with their continued support of sociopath Kamala and progressivism, wearing masks religiously despite being vaccinated and calling for the violent overthrow of the U.S. government according to the the Saul Alinsky handbook you follow.
It's obvious you don't accept realty. I'm going to assume your fear is so great that you need to be in denial in order to cope. That doesn't help anyone.
Yeesh. Repeating that grammar was painful. But I did it! Yaaaay!
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Instead of gaslighting, define the difference between climate and weather.
sharePerhaps look up the definition of "gaslighting" before employing the term incorrectly.
https://www.verywellmind.com/is-someone-gaslighting-you-4147470
Nay, I was in fact blatantly highlighting the absurdity of your rhetoric by displaying how easily it could be turned around into an opposing statement. If anyone is deflecting and obfuscating the discussion, it’s clearly you.
To answer your question, it boils down to weather being short-term and climate being long-term. Climate can be considered the amalgamation of a longer period of averaged weather events in a given region. And again, climate change is an inevitability. Living in an area where the climate is slowly changing is not only expected, but a guarantee, which is why cited anecdotes have no meaning. The Earth is in constant flux, and always will be.
Okay, then, good, so we agree that the recent heat dome isn't actually an indicator of CO2-caused climate change, but is an isolated weather event that doesn’t have nearly enough additional data from previous similar events to conclude that it’s climate change (even if it is), much less CO2-related climate change.
All angles must be looked at. Unfortunately, the religion of modern climate change/global warming alarmism has such a narrow focus that all other scientifically viable possibilities are being completely ignored and remain largely unconsidered. This is the very nature of belief. It eschews logic for certainty.
As I’ve stated in the past, reducing carbon emissions is a good thing if done in a responsible way. Eventually, we’ll hopefully be able to transition to something cleaner for the environment (battery-powered vehicles are becoming more prominent, but even if they never fully catch on due to the negatives, there’s also hydrogen-powered fuel cells, and my hope is that eventually fusion will be pinned down for purposes of energy production).
But evidence that CO2 is warming the planet to the point of crisis simply falls flat, or has been obviously falsified when compared to historical records, which are being changed both intentionally and inadvertently (like entire heat waves of the past being erased from the record to accommodate a menacing-looking hockey stick graph).
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Your OPINION about the climate crisis has no credibility. And you still confused climate and weather.
shareGood thing there isn't a climate crisis, then.
And no, I didn't confuse them. But if I got it wrong, how about you take the time to explain it so that anyone reading this can be educated on the matter, instead of just throwing barbs like a five-year-old?
Or better yet, educate yourself by researching it (the concept is quite simple):
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/facts/weather_climate.html
https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/weather-vs-climate
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/noaa-n/climate/climate_weather.html
https://nsidc.org/cryosphere/arctic-meteorology/climate_vs_weather.html
https://biodifferences.com/difference-between-weather-and-climate.html
https://www.americangeosciences.org/critical-issues/faq/difference-between-weather-and-climate
https://scijinks.gov/weather-v-climate/
https://geographypoint.com/2015/08/ten-10-difference-between-weather-and-climate/
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No need to research anything. Climate crisis is reality. I'm pretty sure you denied covid, too.
shareOh, I get it now! You're a bot randomly stringing together unsubstantiated statements (explaining that ridiculous off-topic COVID remark). A bot that has yet to answer the question of the difference between weather and climate (I guess that wasn't programmed in). Let's call it Trollbot.
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Your ignorance isn't an asset although you believe it is.
shareI desperately need your help because I'm just far too ignorant, somehow despite my exorbitant verbosity. Please explain the difference between weather and climate.
I would be eternally grateful.
Or, you can choose to educate yourself with this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrploaljiYE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USKh12-8y-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=836vqHf1SbA
Seriously, the information here will blow your mind if you merely take the time to listen.
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So, I guess...
https://media1.tenor.com/images/f04f4432cf7770fc5abfa7b2278c764a/tenor.gif?itemid=19436076
Yesterday my Echo Show displayed an extreme heat warning in my city all day (related to the below video). And yet, it never raised higher than the mid-80's, so..... huh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgPstvxEeSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sumc9tZ9-eg
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tldr
shareA sure way to try to deflect an argument is to make a reeeally long post that seems well thought out but is just a long-winded dodge of the whole subject.
shareA sure way to deflect an argument is to make a really short post that completely dodges the entire subject, attacking with ad hominins instead of making an effort to fully flesh out the matter and engage in intellectual discussion in thorough detail.
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Too long. too boring, and doesn't make a concise point we can focus on. You want to impress your thesis mentor? give them this. You want to persuade the regular folks? Say what you want and KISS.
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Idk, trying to follow your lead I guess
shareThey're beginning to take it seriously. We knew it was certain by 1988. Throughout the 90s it was in denial. In the 2000s to present Exxon Mobile fueled disinformation and confusion campaigns. And quite frankly these rightist losers on moviechat don't care.
shareThose rightest losers must be sociopaths. They don't care that their leader Trump needlessly killed many Americans or 6-year-olds were slaughtered with a military-style weapon in their school so I doubt they'll care if millions end up dead from global warming.
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