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<i>”Luciano Gattinoni, a professor in the department of anesthesiology and intensive care at the Medical University of Göttingen, Germany, says ventilators are being misused and overused during the COVID-19 pandemic.”</i>
<b> Oxygen without force</b>
<i>”Garrone says his emergency department now begins with non-invasive ventilation — different ways of getting oxygen into patients' lungs without force, such as a mask or a nasal cannula. This helps people in the early stages of the disease to inhale enough oxygen without damaging their lungs.
Doctors in New York state and elsewhere have voiced similar concerns about putting patients on ventilators too soon and with the pressure too high.</i> <b>Many have begun to delay their use, after New York authorities reported a death rate of 80 per cent for people who go on ventilators.”</b>
“Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients”
“ Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be doing harm.”
How many times do I have to repeat?
VENTILATORS SHOULD NOT BE USED ON PATIENTS WITH DAMAGED LUNGS!!
It has become apparent you deem yourself to be more knowledgable than the above physicians. Also, you discount the facts people died who were intubated with DAMAGED lungs.
I don’t dismiss ventilators as a medical aid…for the right circumstances. Those of us who have had surgery were intubated. Others who may go to the ER with breathing difficulties are usually sedated and intubated, but it definitely should be regulated so as not to cause damage.
I repeat:
<i>”Lung impairment, not getting enough oxygen, is different from lung damage which can lead to death when a ventilator is used.</i>
My dad died due to the ventilator which caused him to succumb to ARDS. Why do you think at that time we had to sign off on it?
<i>”COVID-19 patients, like those suffering from ARDS, have below-normal levels of oxygen in their blood, which leads to breathing problems. In ARDS cases, the lungs lose their elasticity. But in many cases of COVID-19, the lungs remain elastic and people are able to continue breathing for some time despite the low oxygen levels.”</i>
<b>”This "remarkable combination is almost never seen in severe ARDS," he writes, adding that patients with normal looking lungs but low oxygen are at risk of lung injury from the ventilators, where pressure from the air damages the thin air sacs that exchange oxygen with the blood.”</b>
“Ventilators are being overused on COVID-19 patients, world-renowned critical care specialist says”
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ventilators-covid-overuse-1.5534097
The above was the reason of my dad’s demise.
You can choose to debate all you wish in regards to favoring mechanical ventilators. I prefer to listen to physicians who have changed their treatment procedures away from the mechanical breathers.
“Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients”
“ Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be doing harm.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-some-doctors-are-moving-away-ventilators-virus-patients-n1179986
FYI:
<b>”COVID-19: Respiratory care of the nonintubated hypoxemic adult (supplemental oxygen, noninvasive ventilation, and intubation)”</b>
https://www.uptodate.com/contents/covid-19-respiratory-care-of-the-nonintubated-hypoxemic-adult-supplemental-oxygen-noninvasive-ventilation-and-intubation
I used speech marks to be somewhat synonymous to your use of chemical burns.
<i>”VILI can exacerbate pre-existing lung conditions or create new lung pathologies, leading to complications such as acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).”</i>
It’s difficult to write I had a hand in my dad’s death by agreeing to the use of a ventilator. He didn’t have ARDS when being admitted. He had difficulty in getting enough oxygen which is taxing to the heart.
<i>”Mechanical ventilators have been the most widely used mode of life support in management of patients who are unable to breathe naturally or breathe insufficiently. Non-invasive positive pressure ventilation (NPVV) has become an integral part of ventilator support in patients with acute or chronic respiratory failure. That being said, BiPAP is one of the most common non-invasive mechanical ventilation therapies used in acute respiratory failure caused by a wide spectrum of chronic illnesses, most commonly chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).”</i>
https://www.differencebetween.net/technology/difference-between-ventilator-and-bipap/
I was an assistant caregiver to a very dear lifetime friend (65 years) who had CHF. I checked her blood oxygen everyday. Her morning & evening caretakers would agree with me when she would at times have difficulty getting enough oxygen. A ventilator was not the treatment. A BIPAP connected to a concentrator was the treatment of choice. It helped her greatly for the last 6 months of life. Eventually the CHF took its toll. “Who does the bell toll for? It tolls for thee.”
<i>”Turns out yes, ventilators can be used to treat patients with COVID-19 who have severe lung impairment.</i>
Not so! People with damaged lungs died from being intubated and oxygen being forced into those damaged lungs.
“Lung impairment”, not getting enough oxygen, is different from lung damage which can lead to death when a ventilator is used.
<b>” Ventilator-Induced Lung Injury (VILI): An Overview (2024)”</b>
https://www.respiratorytherapyzone.com/ventilator-induced-lung-injury/
<i>” Ingesting disinfectants can cause chemical burns, damage internal organs, and lead to liver and kidney failure.”</i>
Descriptive of an already ill person who gets Covid leading to “inflamed” lungs along with damage to internal organs. Out comes the ventilators to shove down their throats!!
You missed my point so I will repeat:
<i>”Being a layperson and hearing disinfectants would kill the virus, was it wrong to ASK if there was a way to hit the Covid virus inside the body with a disinfectant? You seem to forget certain medical personnel (Lord Fauci for one) went stark raving mad over Covid and began grasping at straws on how to deal with it. During that time they did their best to scare us 💩less! No wonder Trump was asking questions about how to kill it.”</i>
At the time I wouldn’t fault anyone inquiring if disinfectants (bleach) could be injected into certain areas. Instead of treating it like a virus, it WAS treated as a WMD. Shutting down businesses (some never to reopen), ruining people’s lives, wearing useless masks which gave people a false positive of protection, demanding people be injected with a different type of poison, etc., etc. Helter-Skelter! The virus was going kill us all! Truth be told, most of those who succumbed were elderly or had other infirmities. If one was healthy that person survived. Let us not forget how many developed problems or died after the vax.
As I said I literally shoved disinfectant wipes up my nose, wiped my face & exposed body parts while we were cleaning the hard surfaces.
It’s so damn easy to play Monday morning quarterback…isn’t it?
For sure they cut back on the use of ventilators when patients began dying because of them. You don’t introduce a foreign object (intubate) into damaged lungs. An oxygen concentrator attached to a BIPAP machine would have been much better. They are used to assist people in receiving enough oxygen and also exhaling. The oxygen level is regulated for each patient.
My dad succumbed to ARDS in ‘94. Prior to his passing we had to consent to the use of a ventilator due to the possibility of a stroke as he was struggling to breathe. It was too late. I wish I knew then what I know now about ventilators. From the time my mom drove him to the ER and his passing was 3 weeks.
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