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what would YOU have done for T6?

posted 5 years ago by bozo_500 (13130)
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and you still got same team of Arnold, Linda, Furlong, Cameron producing, Tim Miller directing. but you can change/rework the 'Dark Fate' story.

Imo:

a return to the lower budget hard R/18 rated dark horror noir of T1 (budget 100m, less CG more practical stuff makeup/animatronics/real explosions/blood squibs, set at night in LA whole film over course of few hours - also inspiration from those nasty late 80s/early 90s Terminator comics). that feel of a doomed world only few people know about..

No trilogy starter either just a self contained story maybe even a wrap of the saga.

Opening credits: (Brad Fidel scoring) T1 style block capitals interspersed with recreation of 2029 blue night battles. Exactly like T1/2. We see fleeting glimpses of the end of war/time chamber/terminators being sent back (CG 1984 Arnold/Biehn, 1991 Arnold/RPatrick) - basically the fan pleasing blue night purple plasma future war T3 movie that cameron should've directed in the late 90s but instead of a whole movie or opening 20minutes its just a minute or so spread throughout the opening credits like Superman II (and maybe Cameron could've taken time out of his Avatar sequels to direct the future war segment like he did the T2-3D ride)

Plot: present day. CG 1984 Arnold T800 comes back to kill john conner (like the opening to T:DF but the whole movie).no protector/grace or Rev9. at some point Sarah Conner turns up saves john and they try figure out wtf is going on and how another T800 has been sent back. they track down Miles Dysons son Danny who tells them he had continued his dads work at 'new cyberdyne' (called something else) and set about developing AI based on old backed up research from Cyberdyne (he since resigned but the work continued) and that a few years ago a man who claimed he was from the future had been caught trying to blow up the company building ...they find out the man had been put in a mental hospital (like sarah was) so they head there for more info/break him out. the man turns out to be...Kyle Reese! (Michael Biehn). he explains he had been sent back from further in the future (2050s) in a last ditch effort to prevent a far worse fate than T1/T2 from happening where another AI ('Legion') will end up taking control of the entire planet and killing everyone (no resistance winning the war - all they were able to do was send back Reese to try prevent it like Bruce Willis in 12 Monkeys).. reese feels some kind of connection to sarah but cant be sure why .. then the T800 tracks them and kills Reese as Danny is killed by SWAT (just like his old man lol) there follows relentless gritty night-time brutal action scenes as John/Sarah fight the Terminator (as in T1 the T800 is an absolute mofo to kill. no bullet in chest BS like TG).

sarah and john make their way to 'nu cyberdyne' to try and do what Reese failed to. but the T800 tracks them. eventually they disable the T800 but in doing so sarah is fatally wounded (like Reese at the end of T1). they retrieve the T800s cpu and are able to 'play' its memory and they find out that this 3rd terminator had killed john in 2029 (john watches the terminator footage of his own death) and that skynet sent it back before the time machine was destroyed. then theres the big twist where they finally uncover the T1 time loop (Sarah, Kyle, John, skynet, the terminators) and realise skynet/judgement day/the rise of the machines is inevitable and should have happened/has to happen. and that if its prevented (like they tried in T2) chaos endures and splinter realities happen (like T345) leading to the eventual far worse 'Legion' fate which results in humanity wiped out. so its either the Skynet future or the far worse Legion future.

as sarah dies from her injuries as she tells john to reset the future in order for the original T1 time loop to take place and close itself - which means allowing 'nu cyberdyne' to resume its work on the T800 cpu which would bring about judgement day (probably in the next few days/weeks as soon as the cpu is discovered and plugged in).

final scene ends with john in truck/jeep (the photo of his mother on the dashboard) travelling to mexico to gear up for the inevitable battle that lays ahead..

so I guess its not only a complete reworking of DF adapting some stuff (Legion, T800 killing John) its kind of a reworking of T1 (evil Arnie, same night-time dark horror noir feel) T2 (mental hospital, Dyson, cyberdyne building, ultimately undoing what they did in that movie, plus the reverse of Good T800 v Sarah/John) with T3 (judgement day is inevitable end, T800 killing John in the future), T4 (uncertainty regarding the future) and even some Genisys lol (alternate realities/the ending in 'nu Cyberdyne')

something like this trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdnMTM5_6Cg

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

T6 should have been devoted to Karl's journey as he transitioned.

[–] bozo_500 (13130) 5 years ago

[–] MickyMac (3188) 3 years ago

A future war movie or do absolutely nothing with it.

[–] bozo_500 (13130) 2 years ago

had that with Salvation, and it was as boring as a dogs ass

[–] MickyMac (3188) 2 years ago

Had the potential to be the best thing since T2 because it changes the formula. Genisys and Dark Fate have shown we can never get out of T2 which is the blueprint we can't change the blueprint. Pretty much the storyline has been exhausted, all the characters, Sarah Connor, John Connor and the T-800 have done all that they should've been asked to do.

[–] avigalidou (611) 3 years ago

SKYNET VS CYBERTRON

[–] bozo_500 (13130) 2 years ago

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[–] MickyMac (3188) 2 years ago

If there was gonna be more after T2 it would have to be a human resistance soldier vs an evil T-800 again, but T3, Genisys and then Dark Fate dragging that good T-800 vs a liquid metal Terminator through the dirt to where it's not interesting anymore.

Could've had more T-800s that aren't played by Arnie because how many of ripped Austrian guys dressed in black with sunglasses have to shoot up everything in public until people start pointing fingers, even in T1 they had another Terminator that was not played by Arnie, The Sarah Connor Chronicles had plenty of them because they couldn't afford Arnie it was a TV show.

[–] LanceDance (1312) 2 years ago

I honestly would've just continued Terminator Salvation's storyline. It's a shame you didn't like it, but I did. It could've been better, sure, John especially felt less important after the opening, apparently the plan was for Marcus to be the sole main character with John barely in it, but it was the first Terminator movie to take place completely in the future (at the time) during the war with the machines, and I thought it did a pretty good job. I'm glad John got more screen time as they filmed it and I thought Christian Bale was good in the role.

I would've had a time-skip for T5 so that his kids, a son and daughter, are maybe pre-teens or teens, and have them be involved in the story, since in T3 it was said they would become important. By T6 they would be adults and could take over John as the main characters. I may or may not have John die for real this time by an Arnold Terminator, since T3 said that's how John died. It looked like Salvation was gonna do that, and in the original script John did die and his face was transplanted onto Marcus, but John lived after all and Marcus died instead. I'd have John's death be more emotional and intense. I also may or may not have Kyle Reese go back in time since I would like the characters to try and break the time-travel cycle.

Each movie shows the Terminators getting more advanced as they switch from bullets to lasers, we'd see more models, even a re-appearance of the T-1000 and T-X. I also liked the nano-machine Terminator from Genesis so maybe that would be the "final boss" of sorts before they shut down Skynet for good. After that, it would be somewhat ambiguous as to the future of the human race. Would they rebuild again or stay how they were? Would they go back to relying on machines and risk getting complacent, or be humbled and live a more simple life? The future is not set, there is no fate but what they make for themselves. The End.

[–] T79 (144) a month ago

A Female soldier fighting the machines in classical skeleton style gets recruited for an experimental cyborg augmentation which goes wrong. It was designed to infiltrate the machines base without being detected. Now with no memory of herself she gets mysterious text messages in her mind by a Woman who is actually the commander of the machines in the War. Could it be from the future? She is told to follow through with her mission with her team to infiltrate Skynet's nether region - a place where time is blurred. After going through it she ends up at the base of Skynet. The Woman tells her it is time and she knows what she has to do. She kills her team to access Skynet alone. An electronic voice tells her...."Welcome Bonnie.... You have met your destiny. Do you have the Real Card? All you need to do is to insert it into the slot. You will then become the leader of Skynet." It has been her ultimate dream.... in the next episode she gets kidnapped back onto the Earth and has to deal with the humans alone with her superpowers.