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Congratulations conservatives! This is the world you created

posted 8 years ago by TheCroppyBoy
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This is the best film of the year so far, and maybe even Loach's best ever (big call). His anger at the injustice of it all is evident in every frame, as is his tenderness toward his characters, and in several scenes, the characters' kindness toward each other. I was in tears at the end.

To those who dismiss it as 'lefty crap' or something similar, you need to understand that this is what it is like. Government employees are expected to take the attitudes depicted in the film towards people. Human Beings. This world is of your making. It is what you wished for. I hope you are all pleased with yourselves, and I hope you never find yourself in Daniel Blake's position.

I, Daniel Blake should be required viewing for all elected officials and government employees.

If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.

[–] Tin Tin-3 8 years ago

It's puerile name calling like this that enabled Brexit and Trump.

The congratulations should all be your own.

[–] TheCroppyBoy 8 years ago

There was no name calling. I called conservatives conservatives, as they will call themselves, and pointed out that their wishes had come true.

Trump and Brexit were enabled by these same conservatives channelling people's anger at the results of 'free market' economics into hatred of their fellow humans rather than doing something constructive about the problem.

If she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood.

[–] malcolm-smith 8 years ago

The Conservatives are the name of the political party in Government at the moment.

If there is a fault with the OP's post then it's a minor one in that the name of the party should begin with a capital 'c' to dispel any confusion.

This film is, alas, what it's Luke in Britain at the moment. Add on the social injustices of 'bedroom tax', no support for the disabled

[–] Grrrr_Yeah 8 years ago

It's puerile name calling like this that enabled Brexit and Trump.

hehehe... good one 😂😂
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[–] Tommen_Forever 8 years ago

"Someone called me a bad name!! I'm going to vote for a sh!tty candidate now and then blame it on someone else!!"

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[–] corazonlatido 8 years ago

I, Daniel Blake should be required viewing for all elected officials and government employees.

I agree and not only. It should be a required viewing at schools too.

[–] sat-elite 8 years ago

Work Capability Assessment was thought up and introduced to the public under Labour, then endorsed by Ed Miliband once they were voted off for incompetence.

Additionally the spare room subsidy was neatly cloaked within the legislation of the Local Housing Allowance, of which isolated test runs commenced in 2003/4, rolling out to the whole of the country I believe in 2008.

Indeed the original Welfare Reform Act came into force around the same time, well before the coalition were tasked with cleaning up the mess created by three terms of Labour

But never let factual information get in the way of your rants comrade.

[–] antvolley 8 years ago

Very good point...but it's still the political elite who have caused this shameful, debasing, dehumanising situation. Labour is a joke now. Corbyn is okay, I LIKE him as a person and a politician and I do think he has those who are worst offs best interests in mind. Yet a good chunk of the political class are all from the same backgrounds. Never been in contact with "real life". OP made it a Conservative versus "the left" issue--most of Labour are cowardly centrists without an ounce of integrity and the Tories are, by and large, simply meretricious devil-parasites. There have been very few members of parliament with even an ounce of empathy and compassion--on all sides. Some good Tory MP's, Labour MP's Liberal MP's...but very few nowadays. Self-serving cnuts, the lot of them.

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[–] fliffster 8 years ago

That's because Blairites and Tories are one and the same. Thankfully due to Corbyn the Labour party are getting back to what they were always supposed to be

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[–] aldiboronti 8 years ago

"That's because Blairites and Tories are one and the same. Thankfully due to Corbyn the Labour party are getting back to what they were always supposed to be."

Well, good for them! They can sit around planning how to make the world a better place while we have Conservative governments for the next few generations. The fact is that Corbyn and his type are completely unelectable. The only Labour party that can win elections these days is a centrist one. Like it or not that's just the way it is.

What is needed is a centrist party which doesn't betray its socialist core beliefs and doesn't blether on all the time about them like Corbyn does. It's a tall order but it could be done. It must be done if we want to right the terrible injustices portrayed in the film.

Corbyn by his extremist views serves to perpetuate those injustices by ensuring that the Conservatives will stay in power. If I didn't know better I could almost believe he was a Tory undercover agent.

[–] fatclyde_uk 8 years ago

Why do you make this a Conservative issue ? I have lived and worked in UK most of my life and things were never any better under any Labour governments so all you are doing is showing your political favoritism and ignoring facts.
A bit like saying Thatcher shut all the mines when,in fact, Labour shut down far more mines pre-Thatcher.
Look it up.

[–] Tin Tin-3 8 years ago

Fascist lefties never let facts get in the way of their puerile political name-calling.

[–] Tommen_Forever 8 years ago

Fascism is the opposite of leftism you dolt.

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[–] jagga_rmn 8 years ago

fascism is indeed a totally right regime, however nowadays a lot of leftist "progressive" people are pushing for traditionally fascist measures such as regulation of speech, censorship of people who differ from opinion, erasure of fields of study when they do not match a certain narrative etc...
I assume that is what the person you are responding to was referring to.

[–] Tommen_Forever 8 years ago

as regulation of speech

Hate speech, and it's only regulated because it incites harassment and violence against minorities. Freedom of speech doesn't mean the freedom to say anything. That's why journalists are held to libel laws and such, and it's why you can't walk up to someone in the street and threaten to kill them. People on the right are curiously quiet about those laws when they cry about supposed infringements to free speech. I find that the loudest voices from the right on this subject are the ones trying to defend what they believe is their "right" to harass others, retreating into their martyr complex when called out on it. Interesting how some of the angriest proponents of free speech are the ones who predominantly use it to hurt others.

censorship of people who differ from opinion

Who on the left is doing this? You can debate the ethics of silencing someone else's opinion by using free speech, but it's not censorship if the government isn't doing it. Twitter campaigns and petitions fall under the umbrella of free speech. You can call it bullying but you can't call it censorship.

erasure of fields of study when they do not match a certain narrative etc...

I'm not familiar with that at all. Which fields of study are being erased?

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[–] super_steveo95 8 years ago

Look at the protests in Berkley you UTTER *beep* MORON. Holy *beep* just because you're too *beep* stupid to know what's happening in your country or even be so *beep* braindead as to quantify so called "Hate speech" as "oh its just against the minorities" because you're so much of a braying mongoloid you can only spout this nonsensical rhetoric. No wonder they're shutting these boards down, because every boot licking left wing spastic here seems to think a *beep* fictional film should be "required viewing". *beep* right off you low level retards.

[–] Tommen_Forever 8 years ago

Look at the protests in Berkley you UTTER *beep* MORON.

What does that have to do with hate speech?
What that have to do with censorship or freedom of speech laws?
What does that have to to do with the UK's inhuman benefits system as realistically portrayed in I Daniel Blake?

Stop howling like an ape and make a definitive, rational statement.

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[–] chainsawaccident 8 years ago

I'm sure flooding Europe with piss-poor muslim families will do wonders in helping the social welfare crisis.

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[–] Tonemap 8 years ago

I'm a Conservative voter, disabled, a migrant, and Jewish. Whilst I partially agree with your analysis, I think it's important to remember Labour's 13 years in power where they did very little to help the sort of person portrayed in this film.

I don't consider this film "lefty crap," instead seeing it as a new thought-provoking piece by a far-left activist. It's well made and has an important message.

I ask you to look more to the political centre and see where both Conservatives and Labour have caused issues.

[–] Shellie1_us 8 years ago

The poor, and ill are treated just as disdainfully in the US. Some poor have never tried to work and support themselves. This gives the government the excuse for arcane treatment of all who ask for help. The unemployment is a harsh system that tries to keep from paying, as does the workman's comp for injured workers. Social Security is a long difficult process, and you usually need a lawyer. The one elderly lady I know was given a $5 raise a month this year for her SS# to help with rising costs.

[–] MrMcArony 8 years ago

G'won ye croppy boyo ye .... Great post! :-)

[–] EricCartmanBrah 8 years ago

If only the left wing labour party had more than a dozen years to fix problems portrayed in this film; If only.