Grand Moff Tarkin: His face was completely cringe worthy. - Rogue One (2016) Discussion

[–] BigRich 8 years ago

I'm no computer artist, but I can express my opinion on the matter. They should try CGI only on key areas of the stand in actors face, as opposed to doing the entire head in CGI. No matter how hard they try, CGI humans will have the Uncanny Valley effect.

Case in point, The Strain (2014), or even the Reapers in Blade II (2002), they just CGI the mouth and tongue and to be honest, it looks better than any practical effect.

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[–] victorsuk 8 years ago

People shouldnt tsalk too much about if they were fooled or not. Star wars is fantasy you got to suspend belief at all times.
There are fish heads in star wars that dress up and talk.

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[–] Sunny_Nelson 8 years ago

There are fish heads in star wars that dress up and talk.

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I remember seeing that back in '83, and was like "what the hell were they thinking?"

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[–] Betaspaniel 8 years ago

Watching CGI Tarkin, I was reminded of Data from Star Trek: TNG, in that he's meant to "approximate human behavior." The first scene was actually very good, but after that somehow it became more awkward. ::shrugs:: Oh well they'll get it right eventually. It's inevitable. The real problem was I can't remember any of his dialogue. That wasn't exactly this movie's strong point.

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[–] roddmatsui 8 years ago

I thought the Tarkin worked just fine, looked fine. The technique will improve and see further developments, granted, but I thought what they did was quite impressive.

I also liked the animated "young Jeff Bridges" in Tron: Legacy. That too was detectable, I thought, but I still thought it worked beautifully.

I'm happy to see films pushing the envelope and testing the capabilities of the newer tools. This kind of experimentation is as gutsy as the use of motion-control photography in the 1977 Star Wars film, I think.

The difference I see between then and now is that audiences have been spoiled by all the tech advances and have become bratty nit-pickers who criticize things by saying they "look so fake, LOL" without having any real understanding of the evolution of tech tools in cinema, without any understanding of the vast developmental process that has continually transformed and reinvented visual effects, since the very birth of the film medium. It's an evolutionary tapestry well worth studying, I suggest.

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[–] Betaspaniel 8 years ago

The difference I see between then and now is that audiences have been spoiled by all the tech advances and have become bratty nit-pickers who criticize things by saying they "look so fake, LOL" without having any real understanding of the evolution of tech tools in cinema

Oh yeah, a lot of fans watch movies like they're sitting on a throne, waving their hand, going "We are not amused." 😣

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[–] roddmatsui 8 years ago

Sure, Beta, I mean, I'm sure I seem like a mean person to some, yammering as I do about "Doods, do ur homework instead of bagging on the people giving you shugar" --and I'm just as much "the fool" for posting on imdb (where all the fine minds hang out) in the first place. But sorry--I grew up reading FM, and that magazine taught its readership to study the basics and learn where today came from. And today came (surprise!) from yesterday.

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[–] Betaspaniel 8 years ago

Oh dear, no, I was agreeing with you. I'm sorry if it came off wrong.

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[–] roddmatsui 8 years ago

Oh, I was agreeing with YOU, Beta. I must have written that response in an obscure way.

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[–] Betaspaniel 8 years ago

Ohhhh, OK I see now, lol. Yes, I've often wondered about myself too, cursing IMDB (and well deserved) while contributing to it at the same time.

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[–] woozle_wuzzle 8 years ago

Why don't you two punks get a room?

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[–] Captain-Tarpals 8 years ago

Wrong-o, Gungan clown! CGI Tarkin was the best human CGI ever done.

"Ouch time!"

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[–] ahsnedden 8 years ago

Tarkin looked incredible.

That was an amazing feat of technology and art coming together.

You're one of the very few who had an issue with it.

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[–] woozle_wuzzle 8 years ago

And another kid who won't dare criticize it cause it's Star Wars. Lie all you want he looked god awful.

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[–] manchof1 8 years ago

Tarkin looked so out of place as a completely cgi human standing next to real actors, no minimal restraint in showing less of him in only holograms.

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[–] AfroGeek 8 years ago

What was the point of the CGI? Just get an actor who kind of looked like him. Same with young Leia. All they had to do was show the actress from behind her and say her name for teh same effect. No need to CGI her face as well.

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