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I rewatched Thor: The Dark World last night...

posted 8 years ago by sawfan1414
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...And I still don't really understand the hate. It's a very solid film that certainly doesn't deserve the bottom of the barrel in the MCU. It's loads better than Hulk 08, both Iron Man sequels, the first Cap film and I enjoyed it more than both the first Thor and Ultron (suffered from pacing and story issues.)

There were certainly negatives to the story, Darcy's intern for one. Whomever thought up that idea and actually talked someone into putting it into the script/movie hopefully has lost their job. Malekith was certainly underdeveloped as well, but the film overall could have benefitted from an extra 20 minutes, but that's really it. I don't really see any other improvements that need to be made. So why do people *beep* all over it??

Beyond those few little negatives, I found quite a few positives. I still say that the Thor cast is the most impressive amongst the MCU and TDW is no exception, the cast are superb in their roles. Along with Evans and Downey, I'd say Hemsworth/Hiddleston/Hopkins are the next best cast in the MCU. The Cinemetography is beautiful in the film as is the score, the best example is Frigga's death scene (another standout sequence in the MCU.) The action scenes are fun with all of the dimension hopping, and the film ends with an excellent cliffhanger.

Where does the film rank for you in the MCU and why?

[–] lilritzhock12 8 years ago

I enjoyed this movie a lot through my first few viewings, but definitely understand the critiques and changed my mind a bit with time.

I understand why Earth was a focus point in the movie -- you have to tie up loose ends after Thor left Earth/Jane in the first film -- but there is so much more to explore in Thor's universe. We see enough of Earth with all of the other Avengers characters, and the Thor movies should provide something different. Another nitpick of mine is that the Dark Elves seemed a little too science fictioney instead of fantastical, if that makes any sense.

Thor is a tough character to make interesting, and the changes in his relationship with Loki have already been exhausted. They've been brotherly, they've been enemies and brotherly again ... where can that possibly go now and feel fresh to the characters? Same with Thor individually, and I think you see that even in Age of Ultron where Joss Whedon wasn't quite sure what to do with Thor for awhile. In a group movie, he does well as a heavy hitter with some comic relief but solo films focused on him are a different animal.

All that said, I'm still excited for his next outing.

[–] tigress-62-531003 8 years ago

Thor is a tough character to make interesting, and the changes in his relationship with Loki have already been exhausted.

Really? I think the relationship between Thor and Loki is the emotional core of the Thor movies. It would really not be hard to turn the drama up. The brotherly feelings were still there, even when Loki acted as the antagonist. It would be easy to write a heartfelt screenplay on their relationship alone, but most people likely want to see an action film.

[–] The_Wolverine_X 8 years ago

I'm always shocked by the hate too. I thought it was a great film. I liked better than the first one.

[–] sharpeke 8 years ago

I don't really hate Thor:TDW, but I didn't LOVE it the way I loved Branagh's Thor. The cadence of the dialogue was all wrong, and the movie lost that vaguely Shakespearean charm that really sold the first movie.

..then I'm gonna Macarena because if we all just line dance think how much better off we'd be ~DPool

[–] Notzi81 8 years ago

I agree with the OP; I really don't understand why Thor: The Dark World gets so much hate. I liked it better than the first film (not to say I didn't love the first installment of Thor, because I did), and it's the movie that made me a hardcore Thor fan in the first place. Also, I believe I'm the only person that likes Jane and Darcy. Am I alone in this?

Love,

Notzi

[–] RightPalmOfMaedhros 8 years ago

I really liked T:TDW too, mainly for the final battle. At this point I am so sick of skyscrapers falling down.

And I like Darcy too. Jane not so much, but her wacky sidekick was fun.

[–] DesiredFX 8 years ago

I don't put it last...probably second to last...but Thor's not a favorite character of mine, especially in the MCU. I prefer the mythological version to the superhero version, and I prefer the superhero version that includes Don Blake with a cane to the purely Asgardian MCU version.

It's telling to me that my favorite part of the film is a 12-second cameo by Chris Evans as Loki being Captain America.

#TeamZemo

[–] gallagwar 8 years ago

I think it's the 13th best MCU film (out of 14), but it's still an enjoyable and eminently rewatchable film.