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you people and the holocaust


Perhaps the most telling moment in the movie was when a man confronts Maria and says "why is it always about the holocaust with you people?" It is not and was not about the holocaust. It was more about why the man on the steps said "you people."

More than once the theme of immigrants trying to fit in, to be accepted and to make a difference in their adopted country is raised. More than once we see how hard it is to do just that.

Maria speaks only English as an adult, except in one scene which makes perfect sense. Her father as she leaves him speaks English and tells her to speak it from now on. It is about trying to blend even when others are dead set on denying that. Her family wanted to be seen as Austrian, but despite their efforts were denied and it was the Austrians who really stole the paintings.

How do we right those wrongs? Is any amount of money enough? Is a day, a week a month dedicated to a group entity named? Here is a novel idea borrowed from our (US but in a way the US gift to the world) past, "We the people. . ."


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I agree with what you had written.
Would like to add a few elaborations to make it clearer for some, who are not so familiar with the subject.

1. The problem with Anti-semites is not their prejudice nor their bigotry since neither is against the law. The problem with Anti-semites is their potential for violence and incitement, which are against the law.
All that they mostly do now is write anonymous posts on the Internet and Youtube.
Terrorism is a different matter.

2. Although the Nazis did THEMSELVES take movies and pictures of their OWN atrocities, they had attempted to cover up these atrocities toward the end of the war. Hence, the digging out and the burning of the bodies at Auschwitz and also partly in Treblinka to cover up evidence.
Reinhard Heydrich was very specific in his total ban on filming any activity within death camps. This partly helps the Holocaust deniers.
But then again, even if this evidence were fully preserved, it would have not stopped the deniers, since they are not after the truth.

3. I think that "the REAL reason it's so important for these idiots to attempt to deny what really happened is" not to ensure that it happens again, although they would certainly wish that it would happen again.
I think that their real/main motivation is to justify their hate of the Jews and their personal failure of finding a cause for their existence / mediocrity.
As to ensuring that it could happen, let me assure you of one thing:
Anyone that ever tries to ...

(I do not need to finish the last paragraph since you could complete it yourself and probably better than me.)

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Btw, it seems odd to me that the Top 1000 voters much lower than anyone else. Why? Sympathetic to thieves or Nazis? I didn't see the movie (completely at all) since I've a no more poor jews vs. whoever/Nazis, since it's not my burden or story to carry, and I've seen too many already this & other Hollywood cliques. ;)

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Top 1000 voters tend to rate any movie lower.

Pick five movies, check what the top 1000 rated the movie, and come back if you find any movies where the top 1000 rated the movie higher.

I'm not sure why this is the case, but my limited empirical analysis indicates that they rate movies lower than the general body of IMDB raters does.

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