Hetero male cr@p


I saw this film and realized how much it caters to heterosexual male fantasies of women.

I saw it with four lesbians, none of whom found the sex scenes at all something that they could connect with.

That final act of Adele grabbing Emma's hand and putting it on her vagina was purely a "guy" thing, not a "girl" thing. One woman commented on how it made Adele seem very desperate since it reduced the relationship between the two girls to the physical - something that never happens with women (although it happens all the time with men, even gay men, ESPECIALLY gay men).

These scenes pretty much boiled down to lesbian porn for str8 men.

Furthermore, Adele was something of an unlikable character. Emma tried to raise Adele's self-confidence, but Adele did not seem to appreciate that.

Finally, what was with the movie consisting pretty much of close-ups of the actresses? Good think I had to read subtitles, otherwise, I would have really been bored by the cinematography.

This film got overlooked by the Academy for an Oscar - and it's no wonder why. Even one of the lesbians I was with admitted that, after finally seeing "Blue," she was less disappointed it didn't get a nomination.

I finally concluded that this film, despite so many shortcomings, won the Palme d'Or at Cannes because most of the jury is made of str8 men (like Steven Spielberg), who, no doubt, found delight in the lesbian sex scenes. Such a jury subsequently allowed their lust to overwhelm their collective artistic eye and pronounce this travesty of a same-sex relationship film as "ground-breaking" when nothing could be further from the truth.


"Don't call me 'honey', mac."
"Don't call me 'mac'... HONEY!"

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To say that a lesbian relationship is never based on a physical connection (purely sex and nothing else) is absurd. And it's more absurd to say it happens more with gay men.

I don't know how many times it has to be said, but: just because you or your friends don't have sex like they do in the movie doesn't mean it isn't "lesbian sex" or believable sex. Not everyone has sex the same way, and it is incredibly ignorant to claim that you know what is and isn't lesbian sex.

And yes, Adele was desperate in the cafe scene. That was the point. She lost the person she loved and was willing to do anything to get her back - and they connected sexually and so that's the card she tried to play.

You are clearly entitled to not like the movie, as it seems you don't. But your reason are ridiculous.

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Men are notorious for decoupling emotion from the physical act of sex.

Women certainly have physical attractions to each other, but it rarely if ever gets to the point where only the physical matters.

The fact that so many lesbians are complaining that the sex scenes ring false speaks to the heterosexual male spin on them.

Are you a str8 guy? I bet you are.

"Don't call me 'honey', mac."
"Don't call me 'mac'... HONEY!"

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No, I'm not a straight guy. I'm a 20 year-old lesbian who doesn't view the world the same way you seem to view it.

There are plenty of lesbian relationships that are purely based on sex. It's not this rare thing. I know it's cool to think that women are different and don't view sex the same way some men do - but that's not the case.

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The very definition of homosexual, is the attraction to the same gender sexually. To pride yourself of being transcend beyond physical, what does that mean? So, when a homosexual connects with a heterosexual in an emotional way, does that homosexual then becomes straight? Of course not. Guys can feel deep emotional connection for one another, enough to put their own lives on the line for their pal. Emotional connection is not exclusive to women, please. But that doesn't mean they've transcend the physical and are homosexuals emotionally.

I agree sex scenes seemed really fake though. And I would have preferred the film without it.

Men are notorious for decoupling emotion from the physical act of sex.
Also, this kinda contradicts what you pride yourself of. Shouldn't lesbians proclaiming their love and emotion is unrelated to sexual attraction, by definition, decoupling emotion from sex?

Sex scenes didn't ring true. But that's about it. As much as I would have preferred the film without those sex scenes, the film didn't make a big fuss of their relationships deteriorating due to sex getting worse, or one partner not wanting to do what another ask. Or that they felt more and more connected as their sex lives got more and more risque. Nowhere in this film did the filmmakers suggest their relationship was based on sex. It was just something they did, when they were alone in their own world, like making dinner, sharing music, sharing thoughts, sex, etc.


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Well I guess my experience is "rarely if ever" because I've dated 3 or 4 women who really wanted no emotional relationship with me but they sure wanted to f#*k a lot. A reliable orgasm with something warm, living and breathing. EVERYBODY IS DIFFERENT TO SOME DEGREE.

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Agree with the OP that the sex scenes were geared towards a hetero male audience. This film was a disappointment in many ways.

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Are you a misandrist? I'm a hundred percent sure you are.


- We could be men with ven!

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And I totally disagree, but that's because guys are all very different in their tastes, so I guess OP's point is that all lesbians are exactly the same.

It's also possible that Adele is really a bisexual who fell in love with a woman (sexuality is a pretty malleable thing when you're young). Gay men don't necessarily understand the sexuality of bisexual men, so I imagine the same is true of lesbians and bisexual women. EVERYBODY seems to be very judgmental of everybody else when it comes to sex.

But, consider, if a little hot sex gets men and straight people to watch a serious movie about a lesbian relationship is that such a bad thing?

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This film is about love and coming of age and not about lesbianism or your
vicious and disgusting hate for heterosexual males.

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Lol. yeah right, the film won palme d'or cause the cannes jury are a bunch of hetrosexual sex starved man like spielberg that notorious porn director. in fact spielberg wanted to cast adele to his new porn flick called "art sucks lesbian porn rules" but eventually he decided that adele is an "unlikable character". he obviously changed his mind after seing her extraordinary analingus performance.

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LOL

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Basically: "Palme d'Or-winning film ineligible for Oscar award as it will be released too late in native France" from the Guardian: (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2013/jul/18/cannes-winner-blue-warmest-colour-ineligible-oscar)

A film that received so much praise would easily win best foreign film, I mean someone like Spielberg gave the award to the director and the actresses (!) which I believe happend one more time in Cannes.
Furthermore, the movie is based on a graphic novel by a lesbian author and thought I haven't seen the novel I thing that the scene in the cafe should also be in there (thought the author hated the movie...).

Your comment seems very hateful and I don't thing that you're correct, the reason is simple, it is a 3h, french, artistic movie. If one (men) were to watch the movie only for the sex-scenes, he would have a bad time! Someone like this could illegally download the movie and do his "business" forwarding or go to see the new Michael Bay movie in the first place...Director Kechiche is considered a great filmmaker, you can criticize him for a bad movie but I don't thing his reasons for doing this movie were based on "I wanna see some hot lesbian action!"...

Personally, I waited for the movie 7 months since the revelation in Cannes and I was disappointed.
The movie wasn't bad at all but just too much for my taste, in general it was an extreme apotheosis of love, in that way the sex-scene were dramatically exaggerate (which is strange because the rest of the movie tried to be raw). Adele Exarchopoulos was magnificent thought!

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2 things:

1. Actors have never won the Palme before. Lea and Adele winning it along with Abdeletif in 2013 was the first time it ever happened.
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2. The author didn't hate the movie. She didn't like the sex scenes and didn't like the fact that when accepting the Palme no one thanked her. But if you read her review of the film, she most definitely liked it.

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Hmmm I think this film sought out to depict Adele's unique experience, that is not necessarily generalized or universal to every lesbian. The film only exists in the context of itself, so it really doesn't have to generalize itself. And the movie isn't a depiction of lesbianism, it's a depiction of adelescent love vs mature love.

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nycruise,

You know, I think you are right. I think the movie was made from a straight male perspective and not from a homosexual female perspective.

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Why could it not be both? The source material was a homosexual female and the director was presumably a heterosexual male. Also, the actresses are straight women, so I don't find it surprising they brought some heterosexuality to their roles

Moreover, heterosexual males don't all have the same "perspective", so I have never understood why homosexual females have to.

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I thought the director was a homosexual male.

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You do realize that you just contradicted yourself, right? In your original post you said he was a straight male, now you're saying he's a homosexual male…

He's actually straight (or perceived straight), he's married to the co-writer of the script.

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"the actresses are straight women"

If i were you, i wouldn't be so sure that they are straight :)

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