I don't know there was just something pretty off about the whole film. The ending was predictable, and the soundtrack was unbearable for me because I didn't think it fit. I don't know, maybe I just have high expectations of dreamworks films.
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Or Turbo? It would be helpful to know which DW films you've seen....
shareTurbo was pretty good. It was forgettable at worst, not terrible.
shareI agree. I have no desire to see it again, but it wasn't a struggle to watch.
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turbo's concept is unbelievably retarded, but i felt like the movie was pretty watchable.
Nicely animated with a few fun characters.
There is a cartoon show for turbo, it is much better than the movie was. It really surprised me about how good it was.
This felt like only a few steps up from telatubbies.
shareturbo is better than this movie.
shareThe probably with Home is that:
The soundtrack is unbearable and is quite literally all pop-songs. I'm not joking, the music in this movie is nothing but pop-songs and the one scene where there aren't pop-songs is probably the best part of the movie.
The pacing is really bad. Characters randomly spurt out emotional dialogue. Almost all of the dialogue in this movie is supposed to be emotional or engaging, but it comes out at random times and comes out before we are invested in the characters. This is bad.
The editing is bad. Some of the transitions in this movie are quite broken where it is supposed to be a "wipe transition" where an object blocks the screen from left to right, then reveal the new scenes; however, the object will wipe across the screen and then show us the same location and then fade cut to the next scene.
And again... the music is bad because there is emotional music for every scene. You save the most powerful music for the most powerful scenes, but this movie throws in super sappy emotional music for every scene. It makes no sense and it is laughable (I actually laughed more at this movie than any other movie in quite some time due to how bad the soundtrack is and how bad the pacing and editing is.
Yes... this movie is really bad. Which is unfortunate because the PREMISE is not bad. The visuals in this movie are really good and there are a lot of good elements, but the editing, pacing, and music screw over every good element.
If you think Shark Tale was bad than I don't trust your judgement in movies at all. You're probably one of those band wagon movie nerds that say John Carter sucked. If you hate this movie, chances are I will enjoy it. Thanks for being THAT guy.
shareShark Tale was "meh", John Carter rocked and I had forgotten all about Turbo.
The best part of this movie, Home, was the final song,.. Feel The Light.
Actually, my whole family liked this film. It was cute. True, the jokes were often corny but still funny and entertaining. I'd watch it again on a rainy day.
shareIt's a good movie, but it plays very young and doesn't have the sophistication or ambition of Toy Story, Monsters Inc. or A Bug's Life. It's also very broad, with an overarching premise that's a bit hard to take, however, it's the quirky nature of the character Oh and the moving mother and daughter relationship that makes this film. Especially in the final act, which is moving and sweet.
NOW TARZAN MAKE WAR!
This blows! Now I have to listen to the voice of that pansy from TBBT one more time!
shareNow I have to listen to the voice of that pansy from TBBT one more time!You have to? share
Jim Parson's lame ass one-note shtick is unbearable to most of us reasonable, intelligent and tasteful human beings.
shareDo you feel smart saying it - that way with as much schmear as possible, especially?
I haven't seen the movie yet, so I can't comment about a "one-note shtick" or not. I'll let you know soon. To be fair, it's a similar type of role, no reason to blame the actor for that. As for most smart people finding the character of Sheldon unbearable (because it's really that character that you're talking about), I would say most smart people are highly amused by Sheldon and the rest of the ensemble in Big Bang Theory and only a few are offended by the comedy.
I wouldn't say I felt "smart" per se, but yes, saying that did give me a good feeling in my heart. Thanks for asking!
shareNot surprised, it was a verbal dump. People usually feel better after a dump. Point is, the rest of us don't need to smell it, see it, or hear about it. So, good for you, but keep it to yourself next time, thanks.
Just to be clear, I have no problem with the general content of your message, just the delivery. If you don't like Sheldon or Oh, that's fine and thanks for sharing your opinion.
I was happy to read it myself. I've actually chosen not to go to this movie because he sounds the same as Sheldon in the preview. Even "My. Hands. Are in. The air. Like they just don't care" sounds like something socially confused annoying "autistic" Sheldon would say and in the same confused manner. Is that actor really autistic like Sheldon or does he just have no acting range? He even puts me off watching free to air BBT because his character (and thus his voice that he uses in this too) are annoying. I wouldn't choose to hang out with Sheldon let alone pay to watch. His character is a bully and the TV networks try to convince people that he is the funniest character and the actor is the star of the show (I mute him now). It's not a dump at all when you're stating what you think on a film forum BTW (also in a more tactful manner than Sheldon would- so you would think the actor would appreciate it). Before you say, "You haven't even seen it", the previews show plenty for me to see his only "schtick" on show. Thanks.
shareOh, so this is you.
Yes, it's a dump when the writer uses harsh language to figuratively crap about a film, especially to leave a very strong negative expression. Not liking something is not the issue.
Sheldon is a character that people relate to knowing. His lack of social awareness and difficulty in reading social cues is like so many on the spectrum. So, he's funny. The way he takes things literally, his belief that he's better than anyone else, the peculiar things that he attaches himself to are all quirky, familiar, and even lovable. No one would see him as a character to aspire to. He's genius on the one hand, but very handicapped on the other.
Oh is not at all like Sheldon. The previews suck. The movie was cute and Oh just wanted to make a friend. But, don't see this film. If your mind is made up, you'll just be wasting your money.
If you are so sensitive and are unable to take "harsh" criticism of entertainment, you really should stay away from the internet.
This is basically an anonymous forum where people can vent their frustrations and give out support for entertainment. That means the good and the bad. Sometimes when people are frustrated, they come across as harsh, thats life.
It is really lame when people get so defensive and offended because their personally nazi ways aren't being followed by others lmao.
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I think you missed the first post that I was responding to which basically put down anyone who liked something the poster did not (which was not even this film). In any case, if people want to criticize or express disappointment or even dislike, they can do it in an adult manner that does not rely on putting others down who do not hold the same opinion.
Anonymous or not, you're still talking to other people and there's no reason to get nasty or to act immaturely.
this is where you lose touch with reality.
An expectation of manners on a forum like this is just being a nazi. 9/10 if you are polite, someone will be polite back, but if you go and attack someone for being generally harsh then you obviously arent able to translate their frustration.
Frustrated people are looking for someone or something to vent at, and when you tell someone they arent being polite enough, you basically are asking to start an argument.
In a perfect world it wouldnt be like this, but it will never change, and if it did, our world would be painfully sterile and boring.
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Again... I was responding to someone who insulted others who did not share his opinion. That starts an argument. There are consequences to belittling others. There are consequences to being rude. People react. I reacted. Now you're reacting to my reaction and are trying to chastise me for sticking up for myself and others, basically saying that I should not tell anyone how to act on the internet. I politely disagree with that thought and would like to point out that you are doing the very thing you're accusing me of. You're trying to monitor my behavior.
In a perfect world it wouldn't be like this, but it will never change, and if it did, our world would be painfully sterile and boring.It would be boring if people were polite and kind? Why? Because we'd lack drama?
I never once said it was right, all ive said is that you trying to apply your values and manners on others in a forum is a lost cause and only comes across as you trying to act superior.
If someone is rude, it is no better to scold them for doing so. It also is likely to attract drama and make the problem more than it was. People know what manners are, if they werent polite, you cant reform them, and you know that. Its just about you telling people off and hiding behind "politeness"
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I just had to say that I read this thread up to this point (I really loathe when someone craps all over someone else because they liked something or didn't, whichever side the other person doesn't come down on. I mean, really, are you THAT childish that you don't realize that perspective is objective? Ugh...), and I wanted to say that I have agreed with you in every point and position you've taken up to now. =) Sadly, I cannot read anymore of this. The hatred I have for the other (lack of tolerance) mitigates my exit. =D
Be well, OhNoos!
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I'd love to beat the crap out of sheldon
shareGood lord, what a pretentious *beep* you are.
The film was okay at best and I'm not a huge fan of Jim Parsons overall, so I'm not trying to defend this as one of our greats or anything like that, but sweet Jesus on a pogo stick, every sentence you type just makes me shake with anger. Get off your high horse and let people have fun, you obnoxious bratty little child.
Nothing worse than listening to Rihanna... Both as Tip and through the songs...
shareMhmm, and here is the explanation I was waiting for. There is nothing wrong with this movie. DreamWorks did well and thankfully, the box office has reflected as much. At least, so far.
I aim to misbehave!
Wow so she sings in it too? Who isn't over movies just made up so a singer can sell a new record/tape/CD (it's been happening since Shirley Temple did her thing).
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Lol, you guys are funny. It's a great kids movie...but as an adult the "overarching premise" being colonization is really what is "hard to take" for those with a closed mind. ijs...it's so obvious, lol. Seriously? Toy Story? Ohhhh...riiight, he's a cowboy, so that's ok. Think about it.
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Hmm. Well, I've seen all of DreamWorks' films, and consider most of them "all right." A few are great, though not nearly as beloved as your average Disney or Pixar.
I actually like Shark Tale quite a bit; it's not an excellent film, but I think it's good. Better than Turbo, which is okay.
I don't want to predict anything bad about Home in case I end up finding it cute, although I really am getting the sense that that may be the highest praise I'll be able to give it...just the vibe I'm getting. Looks on the cliche, predictable, floppish side to me too. I'm reminded of other mediocre-to-bad CG alien flicks--Planet 51, Mars Needs Moms, Escape From Planet Earth. Hopefully it'll be on a higher, more memorable level than that. Maybe it'll even be downright heartwarming. ;p (Hey, it can't be as bad as something like "The Nut Job," right?)
The single-word/monosyllabic title thing is fine so long as the word has a deeper meaning(s) relative to the story. I just hope this isn't reliant on celebrity/pop culture/modern music references for humor. So far with the trailers, I'm just not feeling it--jokes, character designs, voices, animation, etc. But, I've been pleasantly surprised before.
I thought it was cute. You do have to remember it IS a little kids movie. And it stays true to that. Nothing groundbreaking, but a good popcorn film that kids seem to like.
I absolutely hate it when people use that as an excuse to be lazy. It insults the audience and the artists' potential. Home had potential and it turned into this giant mess of a "little kids film" instead of a great family film that could be enjoyed by everyone.
If you're happy and you know it, go sit in the corner and think about your life.
You nailed it.
"It's for kids" or "kids love it" is just an excuse that renders a movie immune to genuine criticism.
I disagree. It means, look at it and criticize it through the lens of a child. In either case, I, as an adult, was amused and entertained and I'm not alone in that category.
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I agree. Adults have to sit through these movies with their kids and pay for a seat too. I have sat through many where adults were expected to just dumb their minds down and are treated like they aren't there. And others where they have also put in funny humour for adults and concepts that adults can relate to while entertaining kids too- with actors who are not annoying and one dimensional (can also do accents other than their usual voice that is marginalising in the case of this film). For e.g. all the actors in the Shrek movies did a great job and the movies as a whole really.
shareI agree that a story needs to amuse adults as well as children if the adults are going to take the kids to the movies, otherwise they can just get a DVD. I've sat through Pokemon, Power Rangers, Good Burger, and Dude, Where's My Car? Those were bad. Pokemon was so bad that....it's a little complicated. Half way through the movie the theater stopped and said their were technical problems. They handed everyone cash as they left and told us to come back. When we came back, we found out what the issue was. The movie was on three reels and they had put on the third reel second. Honestly, if they hadn't stopped the movie, I don't think we would have noticed. It didn't seem to make much difference having the reels in order. That's a bad movie. We tried to watch Power Rangers recently for nostalgia's sake and couldn't get though five minutes of it. So, I understand what you're saying. That was not my point about having a different sent of criteria for children's movies, however.
Just saw the movie today with my 6 year old and I found it entertaining.
shareWell I saw it and I can't say it was the best Dreamworks movie, it was far from being the worst.
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I guess it is adults making there critic expertise opinions,..but bottom line is this film is really made for the kids and they are the ones that do not look at movies the way we adults do. I will come back when I take my granddaughter next week and I will comment on what she said or I will let her type her opinion herself.
shareI agree, it's the kids that will decide. However, the movie has to have enough draw so that parents are willing to sit through it, too.
I will come back when I take my granddaughter next week and I will comment on what she said or I will let her type her opinion herself.That would be appreciated, thanks. share
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I guess it is adults making there critic expertise opinions,..but bottom line is this film is really made for the kids and they are the ones that do not look at movies the way we adults do.
Screw you. Kid movies don't need to be sloppy and filled with nonsensical storytelling, awful humor, and subpar animation.... You said, "Screw you" to someone who did nothing to you? I thought this was a discussion board. To say, "Screw you" is hostile and shuts down communication. Further, you misconstrued the other person's point.
Who are you, the IMDB Politeness Police? This is a discussion board, and as such, I'm conveying how idiotic this line of thinking is. "BUT ITS A KIDS MOVIE! IT'S OKAY FOR IT TO BE DUMB AND SCHLOCKY BECAUSE IT'LL ENTERTAIN THE/MY KIDDIES FOR TWO HOURS WHILE I NAP OR PLAY CANDY CRUSH ON MY CELLPHONE." That's basically what this boils down to, that it's alright for movies geared towards children to be sloppy and cheesy, but it shouldn't be.
And I love how you say I misconstrued the other person's point while you're basically trying to act like I have none. Why should I give a pass for blatant stupidity (such as the groan inducing humor, the forced character development, messy story progression, awful CGI, forgettable and cringeworthy soundtrack in Home) just because it's a film geared toward a young audience?
Why should I give a pass for blatant stupidity (such as the groan inducing humor, the forced character development, messy story progression, awful CGI, forgettable and cringeworthy soundtrack in Home) just because it's a film geared toward a young audience?I don't care if you give it a pass or not. It was none of the things you accuse it of. And yes, you misconstrued the other posters point which was not kids movies can get away with being of lesser quality, but that kids have different sensibilities and priorities. Different, not better or worse.
It was none of the things you accuse it of.
And yes, you misconstrued the other posters point which was not kids movies can get away with being of lesser quality, but that kids have different sensibilities and priorities.
You still seem to miss the point that different does not mean difference in quality.
We seem to have reached an impasse. I think I'll stop at this point.
You seem to miss the point that kids movies shouldn't be exempt from criticism and disdain just because they're geared toward that demographic.
shareThat's not what I'm saying. You're applying one set of standards towards all movies and only looking at them through adult eyes. The criteria needs to change to a childs viewpoint for kid movies which does NOT mean that it's less or inferior, it's different. Trust me and thousands of psychologists who will tell you that you perceived differently as a child than you do now as an adult.
shareGee. I love it when people throw in the towel on an argument, proclaim they won't go on because of an 'impasse', but then returns when it turns out they didn't get the last word in.
You're applying one set of standards towards all movies and only looking at them through adult eyes
The criteria needs to change to a childs viewpoint for kid movies which does NOT mean that it's less or inferior, it's different. Trust me and thousands of psychologists who will tell you that you perceived differently as a child than you do now as an adult.
To say that movies for kids/families can't aim high and tell an actual story is stupid. And, dare I say, immature.This is not what I said. You keep adding your own spin to my posts as well as the other persons posts. Nor does your criticism fit this film. There was an actual story. It was neither stupid nor immature. Your criteria for "bad movie" does not apply to Home, nor does it explain what we meant by kids movie.
I love it when people throw in the towel on an argument, proclaim they won't go on because of an 'impasse', but then returns when it turns out they didn't get the last word in.You're right. Stuff stop twisting my words, please. share
There was an actual story.
It was neither stupid nor immature. Your criteria for "bad movie" does not apply to Home, nor does it explain what we meant by kids movie.\
I think OhNooos must be connected with this film in some way to be so passionate about defending it to everyone who doesn't agree with them. Can't see why someone would be defending it otherwise.
shareMy criteria does apply. If criticisms by adults didn't matter then no one over the age of 18 would be able to review movies for kids and teens. So your argument is void, kiddo. Also, it is not exempt from being criticized as the stupid and immature movie that it actually is. If the criticism wasn't getting to you, you wouldn't be going all over this board, disputing any legitimate claims that the movie sucked.Criticisms by adults matter as to how adults will enjoy that film, but that doesn't mean kids will enjoy it the same way adults do.
The truth of the matter is there should be no such thing as a "kids' movie", at least for theatrical releases. A "kids' movie" is an excuse to be lazy and appeal to one audience's sensibilities. It's why Michael Bay can still get away with his crummy movies, because he essentially targets one audience's sensibilities. He makes "kids' movies" that's coated in an adult shell. No audience deserves that kind of treatment.
Home could have been a great "Family film" like the majority of Disney & Pixar films as well How to Train Your Dragon or Kung Fu Panda. Instead it was largely panned as barely passable but inferior to other animated movies.
If you're happy and you know it, go sit in the corner and think about your life.
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No, I just point out how idiotic your 'counter arguments' are. It's not my fault you're too stupid to know any better. And I love how you act all high and mighty when all you are doing is trying to look superior to me. Fortunately, I can only hope people are smart enough to see through you, and understand that films shouldn't pander to the lowest common denominator.
shareYou seem to miss the point that kids movies shouldn't be exempt from criticism and disdain just because they're geared toward that demographic.
Honestly, what is wrong with you that you can't abide that other people have the right to their own opinion? Is your world so small and flimsy that you can't deal with being the center of it. That you have to stomp your feet and flail about if people don't agree with you?
There's just absolutely NO logical reason for starting a paragraph out with "screw you" in a discussion thread about a CHILDREN'S CARTOON.
Grow up.
There's just absolutely NO logical reason for starting a paragraph out with "screw you" in a discussion thread about a CHILDREN'S CARTOON.
Why don't you cry for me.
shareWorst comeback ever. That's just pathetic.
shareWaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....
shareHow is anyone supposed to take you seriously with that response?
shareI'm going to regret jumping in here - but kid's movies most definitely have a different criteria than adult movies. One cannot compare the complexity of villains Swiper from Dora the Explorer against Hannibal Lecter for example. They have completely different target markets. Right now on the Deadpool forum there's a huge thread of how that movie is intended for adults, not kids. Most people are ripping into the ones that are saying it wasn't particularly kid-friendly - because that was never it's intent. Similaryly this movie, Home, is intended for kids, not adults.
shareJust because the target audience is different doesn't mean it's okay for movies to pander to the lowest common denominator, and to go against the flow and logic of storytelling (which transcends age). Saying that it's okay for kid movies to be sloppy is like saying it's okay for a chef at a restaurant to ignore a recipe and just throw any random ingredients into a pot to make a stew, no matter how mismatched they are.
shareOf course. No one is saying it's ok to make a sloppy story. That's not the difference we're getting at. And, this story was not sloppy.
shareIt had a lot of flaws, from the uninspired art design to the forced character development to the boring overall story. I get that a lot of people are willing to eat that stuff up because it's easier to swallow for mass audiences and most parents don't care about the content of animated films because they treat them like babysitters for their kids. However, fans of animation and of childrens media tend to think about these elements more critically, and when it's looked at with a critical eye, movies like this one tend to fall apart.
shareI'd really have to disagree with you there. The animation was beautiful - stunning, especially in the landscapes. The details of the cat's hair made it seem palpable and Tip's hair was also rather life-like and tactile. The character development might have been a bit rough. If anything, I think they may have overreached with the themes and it would have been a better with less. The story is somewhat complicated and convoluted and, in the movie, they cut some of it out, which helped, but possibly it might have been shortened even more. However, it was still a good story and I actually preferred the end in the movie to the book. The biggest drawback was the pop songs. I barely noticed them in the theater because I was caught up in the story and the animation, but on the second viewing, they grated a bit.
shareThere's a reason Frozen made over 1 billion worldwide, and it's not simply because it appealed to kids. You can't make that kind of bank without appealing to adults as well.
We should demand better and we've received better from this company as well.
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Just saw the movie today, and I didn't think it was the worst. The animation was fun and colorful. Some of the characters were enjoyable to watch. It's decent/so-so, but certainly not the worst.
I would have to say the worst of Dreamworks movies would be Bee Movie with Jerry Seinfield in it. Argh.
Huh. I can't comment on the worst DW film because I haven't seen them all. I would put Turbo below this one because Turbo was ok...not great, but ok. Turbo was visually stunning, but the story dragged. This one didn't. I enjoyed the jokes, loved the animation, enjoyed the music, and got caught up in the story. Like you, I enjoyed the colors and the visuals. I also enjoyed little details in the characters that brought them to life, such as the shape and movement of the cat.
shareRight.
I also think what this movie got my attention was the emotions from the characters, mainly from Oh. Near the end, he really tugged on my heartstrings.
You're right! I forgot about that part. The expressions on the characters faces communicated many feelings beautifully. Oh, near the end was especially interesting because of all the rapid changes. I also was moved by Tip and her mom.
shareI saw this movie with my 11 year old grandson yesterday. He said he thought it was awesome - and I agree with him. We both loved how it was funny, exciting, and touching (my grandson even said he got "teary-eyed" during some of the happy moments). I'm so glad I got to share this movie with him, and I highly recommend it.
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