Elisabeth Moss' Performance.
How good would you say that Elisabeth Moss' performance in this show is?
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shareI thought she was fantastic.i had only seen her in mad men and I didn't care for her,or the show really.
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I thought Mad Men was such misogynistic rubbish, I didn't even know she was on it, til after looking her up. She is brilliant. I was personally blown away. She reminds me so much of Jodie Foster in SOTL, but so much more vulnerable. Truly one of the best performances I've seen in a series.
shareAgree with everything you are saying here...she does sort of remind me of Jodie Foster as well. Mad Men is definitely misogynistic and hard to get through in some cases. The majority of the men are nothing more than man whore predators but I sit through all of that crap just to see her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-09OhQPiIg#t=85
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I guess you must have broken the rules then...Duh I already told you this was based on a book. I guess I need to spell this out for you. It was NON-FICTION...So yeah, it's non-fiction and based on real people which means the misogyny was real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-09OhQPiIg#t=85
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I think the misogyny on Mad Men was purely a depiction of the attitudes and behaviors of the 1950s/60s. This was before the 1970s wave of feminism and the general view of women was very different. Imagine being as naive and foolhardy as Peggy had to be to sleep with an executive then be unaware of her subsequent pregnancy.
My mother (b. 1930) said she knew nothing of sex before her marriage -- and she was relatively liberated for the time, joining the US Navy in Massachusetts and working and marrying in Hawaii.
Agreed, but I think the writers of Mad Men purposely went way over the top with the misogyny. It is typical to see such revisionist history from Hollywood. It is cleverly done, mixing in the overboard over the top fiction with historically accurate stuff. They do this as a vehicle for supporting PC agenda propositions. It's the whole men are pigs thing.
shareI respectfully disagree that there's a 'men are pigs' agenda. I think it's more an 'anything in the service of drama and ratings' agenda. Extreme behaviors and contrasts with what we see as normal are interesting and get people talking and watching. Creating good drama requires a lot of manipulation of the truth, and flight from boring everyday life.
shareFrom your second sentence onward I agree with what you say. That is what professional drama is about. Still it is a fact that Hollywood does use their media as vehicles for advancing their leftist viewpoints. Hollywood pushes leftist viewpoints, the execs admit this. Just as they try to avoid hiring actors who hold conservative viewpoints or support conservative candidates; they admit this.
I don't believe that everyone on the set feels this way. I think the actors, for the most part, just want to do a great job, and make a great product. But the execs, the shot callers, they are leftists, they decided decades ago to use narrative and emotion to spread their social and political viewpoints. This is really the case.
Again, I think Top of the Lake is an excellent piece of work. It lacks that Hollywood feel, there is none of the Hollywood leftist moral of the story feel to it. It is just a great story, with interesting characters, great acting, and subplots, all coming together, tying up loose ends, answering questions raised earlier in the series. In other comments I have said the same; and I would love to see more work from UKTV and Aussie TV (something like that) because it was a very enjoyable series.
Clearly there is an anti men agenda : there is an anti men agenda in practically every film Jane Campion has ever made. Almost every male character in almost every thing she has ever produced is a despicable scum bag and usually a rapist. Perhaps she just is silly enough to think this is a clever way to lure a bigger female audience, but it is far more likely this agenda is really due to her own personal feelings toward men.
shareI wasn't too impressed to start with - thought she carried over too many of her Mad Men mannerisms and that peculiar blank/frustrated Peggy expression.
By about the 3rd part Elisabeth started absolutely killing it and kept getting better and better. In fact, it's the most raw fearless performance I've seen in a while. I wonder if they shot in sequence? That would account for her relative woodenness at the start.
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Really good performance by her.
shareI wasn't too impressed really. She went to the same acting school as Kristen Stewart: bland, without any visible emotions.
shareAgree 100%. And her accent was all over the place
shareI agree. Completely wooden, with no changes of facial expressions to speak of. Even in scenes that should have been extremely emotional for her character, she was just blah.
The girl who played Tui was amazing, however.
"I don't love pink. Pink loves me."
I agree. She has this sort of weird expression on her face all the time as if she's going to be sick.
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Very good in my opinion.
I don't watch Mad Men but I saw her in The West Wing. Didn't like her there.
I liked it. Good performance.
Though her accent bugged me. Was she meant to be Australian, New Zealand-er, or American? Her accent was all over the place and was a mix of all three accents, I felt.And that was distracting.