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[SPOILER] Who else thought the Riddler's father was..


the reporter who was killed?? I was so sure that this was going to be his motivation. Also additional parallelism with Bruce Wayne.

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Interesting

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It did occur to me, it would have been an interesting... connection? mirror? of Batman, which seems to be a recurring theme. It certainly was used in this film.

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I thought that was going to be the case because of how retarded Hollywood is with the "everything needs to be connected mindset." Was relieved to find out they weren't related.

Until the next movie that is! Hollywood is such a fucking joke.

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I liked the old Spiderman trilogy where every villain could be tied back to Peter Parker directly and they all capture Maryjane at the end of the movie.

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That "everything needs to be connected" crap sucks. I was bent when it was Keaton/Batman responsible for making the Joker. Even in this movie Catwoman is connected to Falcone? Whatever.

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I can understand some people disliking it in the Tim Burton Batman. And Yeah. I particularly dislike it in Spider-Man 3. I am one of the few that just didn't care for Spider-Man 2. Peter gets crapped on the whole movie. He loses his powers and it gets a bit boring for awhile. But I'll admit from an audience stand point it did make sense to connect Peter to Doc Ock. And of course in the first film (and in comics) it worked for Norman to be connected to Peter cause of Peter's best friend being his son. But in Spider-Man 3, there was literally no good reason to connect some blue collar guy who is poor to Peter. And they completely ruin the origin by making Flint Marko Uncle Ben's killer so that even if Peter stopped the robber Uncle Ben might have still died with Peter startling him instead of his partner.

I felt like they did the same sort of thing here with Catwoman being Falcone's unwanted daughter just because it is a big thing in real life for a guy to get a woman pregnant and leave her to deal with it by her self. Maybe it happened to a friend of one of the writers. Who knows?

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"even if Peter stopped the robber Uncle Ben might have still died with Peter startling him instead of his partner."

EXACTLY

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"I was bent when it was Keaton/Batman responsible for making the Joker"

Um. This is straight from the comics. . .not really reasonable to be "bent" when they're just being faithful to the source. . .

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The reporter's name was Elliot. In the comics, Thomas Elliot is a childhood friend of Bruce Wayne who becomes the villain Hush.

During the montage of information that Riddler left explaining the death of the reporter, the word HUSH appears on the screen.

If anything, they could be setting up a potential future villain in Thomas Elliot / Hush if they have the son of the dead reporter turn out to be Thomas Eliiot.

Or it's just a fun little Easter egg for fans.

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Good to know, thanks.

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I was actually wondering if Riddler was originally meant to be Hush in early versions of the script lol

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I thought that, too, for awhile, and I'm really glad they didn't do that. I thought it would just be too "cute" to tie it all in like that.

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^ yeah same, it might've been a lil much if it were the case

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Sure would. Sometimes that hero/villain connection works, sometimes it doesn't. With Bats already connected to Falcone in this one (not to mention Catwoman being tied in to Falcone, as well), I think layering in that extra, "Oh, and you know the other main baddy, too!" would've just been far too much.

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