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Diversity in movies should be achieved with new stories, not substituting actors.
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I also got it. More impressed though that you started a whole post just for the joke.
More than tone to me the most important thing is that whatever rules you establish for the character's power, they should be consistently followed. Also everyone else should act logically and respond realistically to the laws of nature.
When aliens or magic is involved I guess anything is possible, but if you have wings made of feathers it irks me that you can fly without flapping them as shown in many versions of Hawkman.
The She-Hulk and Kraven origins in the recent series/movie make that seem like a documentary. They didn't even try to make those remotely plausible.
Superman/Batman/Green Lantern/Flash are not so hard to go along with, I manage to suspend disbelief and roll with it with limited effort.
However when you get into Hawkgirl/man and even Mr. Terrific, that's when my brain starts asking too many questions and the spell is broken. But I suppose its all equally outlandish.
Judging from the number of things in quotes in the original post.. yes I realize expecting realism is a losing battle. However there are levels to suspending disbelief, and I am beginning to get the sense that the studios are beginning to steer to a much younger demographic and more frivolous story lines instead of exploring serious themes. Perhaps it is time to grow up and move on as some have said. However genre such as fantasy and sci-fi have managed to pull this off and endure - no one says these are just for kids.
EXACTLY!! If I saw myself, the first thing I would think is that is my new best friend. I would go out of my way to cooperate.
But I think this is the point. The original characters were bad people, and there first instinct was to harm the others, and assume the worst. This may not have been true for their counterparts in the other realities. There was a line, "what if we are the evil ones".
Clearly standards and expectations, especially for how women were treated, were different back then than they are now. Also somewhat unfair to judge someone based on the standards of a different time, even though in this case the behavior may have been wrong even for then.
All that notwithstanding, we have progressed to a point where I would say any sort of physical or verbal abuse is unprofessional and cause for a studio to fire a director. If you can't get the performance that you need, it means you should hire a different actor. However artists are complicated, some find inspiration in and even embrace suffering for their craft.
Separately, stuntmen habitually suffer injuries or even death in movies; why is that acceptable? I supposed as a minimum we should establish that everyone should have the freedom to quit at any time without retaliation, and build from there.
Looking at the replies it saddens me how people are no longer able to separate these ideas from government involvement. Of course once that enters the picture people retreat to their corners and discussion comes to a screeching halt.
To me this is about art, fairnness and historical accuracy. At the rate we are going nothing will remain as something than can be discussed independently on its own merit.
To some extent this is true, nothing new under the sun. The enduring themes and struggles we experience as humans are always the same. But exploring a theme from a different angle is still different than remaking a previous movie beat for beat just with other actors.
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