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1st bat bomb?

posted 3 years ago by bozo_500 (13121)
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3 hours (ok for mega hype Endgame extravaganza. not so much a broody emo batman no ones seen before)

3rd reboot in only 15 years

Looks alot like a remake of Batman Begins with better known villians (or TDK trilogy in one film) just similar aesthetics, look, vibe. so audiences might feel there already seen this style of batman done before not too long ago (as opposed to if it had been all Gothic looking like Burton on crack)

RPatz? The Twilight dude as batman? ok..that will go down well with Mr Average Joe moviegoers

The real Batman returns in the same year..

Synder fans pissed with how Synder/Batfleck were treated and this movie was supposed to be Batflecks

Matt Reeves most likely willve made an over serious dull 'grimdark' movie (see War of the Apes)

The Colin Farrel curse (see other thread)

[–] space1999 (725) 3 years ago

Aren't "Batman and Robin" and "Batman vs. Superman" already notorious flops?

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

I can only speak for myself, but I don't think Ben Affleck is a suitable batman. Of course George Clooney is even worse.

[–] AP (5288) 3 years ago

Batman and Robin was a critical flop but it made a lot of money. BvS didn’t make what the studio projected though.

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

Could be. I mean it is basically the same story told again and again, what could be new for this film?

With so many comic book movies, there is certain level of audience fatigue already.

[–] sonans (1551) 3 years ago

1. "I mean it is basically the same story told again and again, what could be new for this film?"

Marvel, 007, Mission Impossible, Fast & Furious, aren't "same story told again and again"?

2. "With so many comic book movies, there is certain level of audience fatigue already."

Yes, that is the reason why new Spider-Man bomb... wait...

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

Marvel, 007, Mission Impossible, Fast & Furious, aren't "same story told again and again"?

Those are at least a series of stories of similar theme. This is different. This is literally repeating story.

Yes, that is the reason why new Spider-Man bomb... wait...

The recent Spider-Man movies are quite weak, the only way I can explain it is the incredibly strong franchise. Batman franchise is not as strong, just think about what happened to Batman & Robin.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 3 years ago

What happened to Batman & Robin is the same thing that happened to Amazing Spider-Man 2.

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

The qualities of the movies are similar, the result is however different. Box office result of Amazing Spider-Man 2 is about 3 times of Batman & Robin. Even account for inflation that is very different.

[–] moviefanatic505 (6124) 3 years ago

Those are at least a series of stories of similar theme. This is different. This is literally repeating story.

What story is being repeated? The Riddler and Penguin were not used for The Dark Knight trilogy. Only thing I see the same is that it is another Batman movie.

The recent Spider-Man movies are quite weak, the only way I can't explain it is the incredibly strong franchise. Batman franchise is not as strong, just think about what happened to Batman & Robin

You are in the minority on that. The newest Spider-man not only was a box office hit but a critical hit as well as a hit with users. Also no if you adjust for inflation Batman does better than Spider-man on average actually.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Agreeing with you on both points.

How many retellings before people start having a sense of "déjà vu" ??

I was a comic book collector as a kid/teen and I was so hyped with the 2000's wave of good comic book movies. Starting with X-Men and Spider-Man, Batman Begins, etc.

Fast forward to today. I'm fed up with it. I didn't even finish the Avengers series...

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

I think Avengers infinity wars is the peak of comic book movies, after that I think things are clearly going downhills.

I don't know if this iteration of batman would be the end of it. I am sure people would still watch it, but to me the magic is running out.

[–] [deleted] 3 years ago

Indeed. They did beat the hell out of that hot iron. It's now slowly cooling off.

[–] sonans (1551) 3 years ago

1st bomb in Batman franchise? Ever heard a movie call Batman & Robin?

[–] JoWilli (19992) 2 years ago

it was a terrible movie.

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

The Twilight dude as batman? ok..that will go down well with Mr Average Joe moviegoers

I think he looks the part as batman, probably darker than the previous iteration. To think of it he was the dark knight in twilight movies as well.

I am more worried about cat woman partially because I have never seen her previous work, also her "mask" was kind of weird and I think revealing, you'd think a cat burglar would have a better mask.

With Robert Pattinson on board you would think Kristen Stewart may have a shot as cat woman, that would have been interesting.

[–] sonans (1551) 3 years ago

"I have never seen her previous work"

What? How is that possible? Mad Max Fury Road is the greatest movie in past 10 years! How can you not seen the movie?

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

And I could not finish it. Movies of that kind just do not interest me.

[–] actionkamen (23176) 3 years ago

But Twilight interests you?

[–] fc31 (5418) 3 years ago

I finished the first one at least. The rest was hard to watch.

[–] acidraindrop (3055) 3 years ago

I don't think her role was very notable there anyways, so not missing much in terms of that reference point.

[–] MartyDeniro (4171) 3 years ago

If that 100mil budget is the correct number, it won't be a bomb. A financial success is the much better bet. And that "grimdark" Joker raked in 1bil worldwide.

[–] bozo_500 (13121) 3 years ago

100m budget, plus about another 100m promotion

[–] MartyDeniro (4171) 3 years ago

Of course, and maybe even more for promotion, but the production budget is still small for the genre. This thing cost 50mil less to make than Batman Begins from 2005, and with a PG-13 rating, it's aimed at bringing in every demo rather than only the "grimdark" fans.

[–] emori (3661) 3 years ago

It can not have 100 millions budget. Its not possible for those kinds of movies. And considering all that stops of production during pandemic. Budget is 200 millions minimum. But probably more.

[–] emori (3661) 3 years ago

I dont think it will flop-flop. More probably it will underperform. Its not gonna get Spider Man money.

I think it will be around 230 millions. Like that Shang Chi movie. And in Comics world that is underperforming. Budget and promotion is probanly 500 millions alone. 3 hours long time will not help. And its dark emo Batman. Not the kids movie families will rush to. This one is fo adult audience.

"Snyder fans" are like a tiny group of people. They were just very loud. They absence will not me noticed. Thats why no one at Warner or HBO even thought about giving 300 millions to Snyder to make another JL movie or tv show. Because those Snyder fans will not bring back the budget. Because there are like few thousands of those. And you need millions of people to see big budget movie.

[–] FilmBuff (7237) 3 years ago

You are entitled to an opinion, but yours seems seriously skewed to your own niche opinions. Robert Pattinson has established himself as a top tier actor, and if you only know him as "the Twilight Dude," you need to expand your cinematic horizons. He looks exactly like one imagines Bruce Wayne to look, and the trailers show perhaps the best incarnation of Batman to date.

Are you the same person who thinks Colin Farrell's films never do well? I remember that thread, which felt about as nonsensical as this one, as does the notion that any one actor is the "real" Batman. Does Ben Affleck have another Batman film coming out this year? If that's the case, the hype is minimal, and I am utterly unaware of that film's existence.

Batman has had a solid audience, and the hype for this film is palpable. It may not do Spider-Man numbers, but unless it turns out to be a crappy film that critics pan, I sense it's going to rake in the bucks.

[–] JoWilli (19992) 3 years ago

bat bombs are technically guano. lol