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The rape victim's website, where do you stand?


I felt that was a hard choice. I think Don was making a strong case that it could be used to put people down or make a situation worse.


But when that actress, idk who she was, made her case that she was raped and there will never be any trial or any case it was really maddening. I imagine this crap happens at colleges all the time, esp at frat parties.


These guys high five each other and a girl lives in fear for the rest of the night.


Now Don made a strong case. But the truth is couldn't someone, as he put it, "take revenge" nonetheless? I mean couldn't anyone anywhere accuse someone on the internet.

Yes this website could be misused, but aside from Charlie's death, I thought it was one of the most poignant scenes in the series.


Where do you stand? Was Don right, or the victim?

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There is no doubt that something needs to be done about serious Campus rape issue....... but people can be very vindictive and such an unchecked site is HORRIBLY dangerous when unstable, vulnerable or just angry people have unfettered access.

I once had a GF who called to cops on me for physical abuse simply cause she lost and argument. This being the net you can believe me or not - that's fine - but it happened. Imagine an angry womans reaction to a cheating BF, or a bad breakup or an unwanted pregnancy that became unsupportive by the BF.

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People are vindictive when they've been raped and assaulted. Can you blame them?

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Yeah but like the Ohio incident, people also react badly to different circumstances as well. In that case she obviously got caught doing something unlady like and rather than taking her share of the blame went all victim.

The issue though is not whether rape exists - it does - its about what to do when its occurred.

web sites that that though are not the answer.

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But so many rapists get away with it. Can one blame victims taking the law into their own hands? It may be the only chance at justice they get.

Decent law-abiding men who treat women with respect and can account for their whereabouts have nothing to fear from 'false allegations'. 

Speaking as a man I don't fear it happening to me. 

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Harvey has said this, but sometimes there isn't any other recourse in order to be heard.

(First off, sympathies and respect - this makes three of us in this thread who have been there in some way or another, and may it never happen to you again.)

All three of us have experienced this - I never got anything resembling justice in my case (beyond telling the person behind it to never contact me again). Having been through that, if an anonymous posting on a website is the only way for a victim to get any level of justice, I would never deny them that.

(By the way, if you ever need to talk, feel free to private message me.)

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The entire season 3 of "The Newsroom" was about accountability.

Does that not completely answer the OP's question?

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The entire season 3 of "The Newsroom" was about accountability.

Does that not completely answer the OP's question?

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I won't comment on the site in the show...because unfortunately I can see both sides of the story...

But I will post this one allegory that made me realize that, as a man, I cannot see the world the same way as a woman, purely because I have seen it differently my entire life.



As a man, I pass by a dark alley. I need to get to the other side of the block to get to my car. I weigh the pros and cons. I know the dangers and see if I want to make that risk.

As a man, barring death, what is the reasonably worst thing that will happen to me?
I will get mugged. Perhaps be beaten up. Perhaps be beaten to within an inch of my life. (True there are things like permanent disability or something, but please note that I said above "reasonably worst")

As a woman...what is the reasonably worst thing that will happen to her?


So now. Think of how differently that same alley looks to a man and to a woman in the exact same situation.



Not looking for a debate...not looking for what-if's about how my theory above doesn't work because of crime statistics in urban areas or some other nitpick. It was something that made me realize that absolutely nothing I think of in respect to these sort of issues won't be clouded by my personal experience.

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SEAL412:

But when that actress, idk who she was, made her case that she was raped...


The actress was Sarah Sutherland, daughter of Kiefer Sutherland.

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Like someone above mentioned, the accused can sue the accuser for slander if the accusations are false. Believing no one and walking away from the story - as Don did - is irresponsible. What exactly is this show suggesting? The waters are too murky so let's just shove this issue under the carpet and pretend it doesn't exist? I wish this show could have a season 4, so that Don could reflect on his decision here in light of the Rolling Stone article fallout. This show's premise is to re-visit old news stories and shows us how this team of heroes would have done a better job. In this case, both ACN and Rolling Stone did a shoddy job.



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Like someone above mentioned, the accused can sue the accuser for slander if the accusations are false.


Easier said than done. Unless you have a lot of money, and don't have to worry about showing up to a day job any year soon, then that suggestion does not hold a lot of water.

 The bad news is you have houseguests. There is no good news. 

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If you're a nice guy then you shouldn't worry about a website like that. Just saying...

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Broken logic.

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very

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The ONLY reason for a site like this to exist is if there's no other accountability method, no other form of investigation, no justice system.

Since we do still have a justice system, such as it, that renders such a site as being more harmful than good.

And if you believe the justice system is so bad that a libel-based website is actually justified, then surely the most urgent thing you and society should be doing is finding and fixing the missing justice system, not working on rape blogging. The libel site can only address symptoms and outcomes, not causes and solutions.

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Setting this kind of site is just an invitation to slander and revenge on ex boyfriends, co-workers, bosses etc. especially if it's supposed to be anonymous.

Anyone could basicaly accusse anyone on such site, even though this is trackable, the false sense of anonymity is just another invitation to internet trolls and people who just want to make someone's life *beep*

Yes you can always go to court or whatever, but the damage is usually already done and you cannot completely clear your name.

There is a whole system for this kind of thing, as others have said, creating anarchical websites is not the way to improve the situation.

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We already have a tool to deal with such situations: the rule of law. Just because those who we have entrusted to administer justice have, in no small part due to our own feckless oversight, have failed to act is no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.

On the other side, the court of public opinion is far too malleable and capricious to be trusted to administer true justice.

Had the rape victim used her web site to sue for an investigation and prosecution by the appointed authorities, that would have been harder to impeach. Declaring the existing system dead and choosing the most familiar weapon (ie. a web page) sure looks like revenge. Playing "People's Court" on TV with a criminal case sure looks like practicing law without a license. Don was right, but should have done more than just leave the girl hanging.

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