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Season 5 must be the FINAL one!


I'm sick of seeing those two getting away with everything. The writers have extended this fantasy world way over to the point that there is so little bearing on the reality left. Apart from the farfetchedness, the writing quality in overall went down the drain. Especially in season 4. The writing was so bad that me and my wife gave two pauses while trying to watch season 4. Each time we had hard time convincing ourselves to return to watching it because it is not fun anymore. It took us 3 months to finally finish it last night. I remember I has binged the first season in a single week.

We need our revenge, we need our reckoning, we need to see Underwoods pay for all the horrible stuff they did on Season 5. So unless Netflix announces it as the Final season we will not be watching it.

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Why would you want to root for the Underwoods failure. There are plenty of TV shows where the good guys win.Since they have changed show-runners season 5 will not be the last season.

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Season 4 lost me. I gave up in the middle. It was so bad. I loved the first 2 and the third was ok. It just got so dumb.

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You guys dont seem to know what makes TV good.

Apart from my wish to see them ruined ASAP, when you know those two main characters will get away with everything no matter how hard or how serendipitous or how ridiculous it happens, then it is not fun anymore to follow it after a couple seasons. The fun is not sustainable this way. Because you know they will eventually destroy everything in their path. There is no suspense. It gets really really boring as it exactly did with HOC.

Plus, this is not scifi or fantasy, this is not Lost. This is a political thriller. It needs to have strong footing in reality but the writers cant maintain it anymore. They are trapped. Until the final season comes, Underwoods need to survive everyhting. So until then, in order to maintain the illusion of suspense, the writers need to keep the A-HA factor, they need to constantly stretch the boundaries of what is possible. And they can only do this so much before giant plot holes begin to emerge and it doesnt feel like anything real.

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i totally get what you are talking about. that is why i gave up on blacklist in season 2. reddington was able to do whatever and it became tedious.

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So why the hell are you even WATCHING it? Do you have that little going on in your life - is it so empty - that you feel the need to watch a show you clearly despise? Seriously, why are you bothering?

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OK ill bite: what I'm saying is that i CANT ENJOY WATCHING it anymore. And unless they announce Season 5 as the final season, I honestly WONT KEEP WATCHING. The reason I want this is very simple: I watched it for 4 years now, so I m invested in it, I liked the premise, and although they have been botching it for the last 2 seasons, should they decide to stop dredging it down with any more filler seasons, I believe they can still deliver an amazing final season becasue the main story has that much potential and I d like to see that.

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It's a show, not a documentary... It's supposed to capture and entertain. So of course they are going to suspend your imagination. Overall it's a solid and accurate depiction of how things get done.

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except that it is not entertaining anymore when you know some characters will always end up winning scooby-doo style

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I felt Season 4, while not as flawless as S1, restored my faith in the show after a relatively bad in parts Season 3, but I agree this show should retire its core characters and main running story arc no later than a sixth season.

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Yeah but see the problem is until the last season is announced we will know that the upcomng one is yet another filler season in which Underwoods will again be the victorious survivors at the end. Because the downfall of Underwoods could only be a couple of episodes, maaaaybe a whole season at best, but it cant be more than that. What can the writers do to make it last more? Make them fugitives? Ex-president and his ex-vp wife on the run? No of course not. The well established tone of HOC would not allow Underwoods' downfall to take more than a single season, and like i said even that would be stretching it way too far.

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Season 5 won't be the last, Kevin Spacey in an interview says that there are 8 to 12 seasons planned, the show ain't ending anytime soon!

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12 seasons yeah sure

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12 seasons yeah sure


I think the show's concept and story arcs for core characters would get run into the ground by the 7th season or so, ala Dexter.

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I agree with you. Besides the structure of book and British tv adaptation, stories (which lets be clear this is a story) require structure. This sort of story is showing us the juicy, fun, despicable things people do for power, but in the end, you pay. That is the story! Now that they have bypassed the place where a natural arc should be (the point where they have risen as high as they can and must enevitably weather the bumpy ride down) it feels as though we're entering into sitcom territory. Where every season they will fall a little, only to claw their way back up to the top and start all over next season. This is not storytelling, this is a gimmick intended to stretch this money-maker out and call it entertainment. Don't get me wrong I love the show, I love what they've done with the characters, the tone, everything, but last season I was missing that feeling that we had finally come over the Underwood's arc, and that, along with news that there will be more seasons is just, well a bummer.

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to further illustrate:
from wikipedia

Todd Van DerWerff of Vox had a mixed review to season four, criticizing the repetitive and predictable nature of the series, writing: "There's no such mystery with House of Cards, where you know exactly what will happen as surely as you do on NCIS. Obstacles will present themselves, but Frank (the hammy Kevin Spacey) and Claire (the almost perfect Robin Wright) Underwood will overcome. What you see is what you get."[81]

The choice to have Frank and Claire run as running mates was highly criticized by some reviewers. Jonathan Holmes of Radio Times wrote that "there are limits to the stupidity viewers are willing to accept, and with season four [House of Cards] may have stepped over the line. Claire demanding her selection as Frank’s running mate is stupid. Moronic. It turns a canny political operator into a ham-brained fish-eyed jar-opener."[82] Spencer Kornhaber of The Atlantic wrote that "in moments like this it’s good to remember that Cards really, fundamentally is a stupid TV show instead of a particularly cunning comment on political reality."[83]

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I agree with you. It's not just that it becomes trying watching these contemptible people succeeding for such a long time, it's that the drawn out nature of it (so the show can run and run) means it just promises and promises but never really climaxes, and the way in which the Underwoods succeed largely relies on the astonishing gullibility and come-and-go naivety of everyone else rather than their own "clever" scheming.

If I thought the Underwoods might get what's coming to them in the end I could probably go a few more seasons, but I suspect the show-runners think they're being original by letting the bad guys "win", and as evidenced by a lot of the people commenting on this board, some people really do root for them. You can't please everyone. The writers would probably say they're simply taking an amoral stance rather than an immoral one with the aim of being more realistic. At this point I'd argue the show is neither realistic or original. Maybe the new showrunners will let something happen in the next two seasons.


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Because only the good guy gets ahead in real life?

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No, because they don't. There is something cathartic about having the villains of a story ultimately pay the price to bring the story to its conclusion. It has been this way since the being of storytelling. The audience counts on that kind of satisfying resolution in fiction precisely because bad guys don't always pay, good guys don't always win, and crimes sometimes remain unsolved in real life.

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I hope the fifth season is the last. This show deserves to go out while it is still on top. The stories and plots are getting ridiculous. I like Frank's character, crazy but smart egomaniac. But after four seasons now it's getting predictable. The Underwood's scheme to get what they want and doing whatever it takes to avoid consequences. Someone in Frank's inner circle, his wife or even himself needs to die.

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Well at least the article that besmirches Frank's rise to power is in print and that Remy and Jackie finally spit in his face for good. Cathy may become a liability as she is uncomfortable from Frank's threats and would rather have him gone than giving into his terror anymore. That shows that they've made some substantial enemies that will begin their undoing and however they deal with it, it won't stop the inevitable.

All the same, I am ready for the show to be done and I don't see how the show can last 8 or 12 seasons as if to imply that Frank and Claire will remain in power for that long stretch of time. I'm getting as uncomfortable with the show as I'm entertained with it the more we're supposed to rally behind this nefarious duo and the lives they've destroyed for their own personal satisfaction, which they've done enough of already. What else would they seek out from power if they can't remain President and First Lady/Vice President forever? Unless they're going to go full Palpatine and build a dictatorship, it's going to end for them inevitably and that path to their downfall isn't worth extending on through the next decade. I know they'll fall because they've already smiled victoriously with each season and the finale must be as operatic for them as it was with Michael Corleone and Walter White. Power will make them explode and that makes a big turnaround for this couple who thought they were unstoppable.

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Totally agree with the OP. They need to get their comeuppance very soon. It's all getting far too predictable now.

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