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The reason many people hate the main characters...


...is not because they are racist or can't appreciate anti-heroes. There have been a lot of posts attacking people for not liking the main characters and I thought I'd add my two pence in defence of those critics.

I think the problem is that Joe Cornish has captured a subset of British society so accurately and the language, costume, setting and acting were spot-on.

The appeal of the anti-hero, such as bank robbers, hitmen, lone cowboys, is that they are at a remove from everyday life - none of us will likely ever be involved in a hold up, will ever be targeted by hitmen, or will ever be in the Wild West circa 1880. Furthermore, anti-heroes are normally never indiscriminate: bank robbers target a corrupt and morally bankrupt economic system that privileges the rich over the poor; the 'heroic' hitmen only tend to go after those who deserve it and don't attack the innocent; the gunslinger protects ordinary people and only takes on the violent. In each case, the anti-hero has a 'code' that they follow, and a cause that we can root for because it is far removed from everyday reality. And there's a vicarious thrill to seeing people do those things that we'd like to do but don't have the guts (Falling Down is a classic example).

The problem with Attack the Block's characters is that they are so real and so much a part of everyday life for those living in Britain and especially London. I think the further away you are from the reality, the better you can like the characters as anti-heroes, so Americans in particular, I have noticed, do like them. Unfortunately, when you are living in a place where gangs of feral youths make you fear for your safety when out after dark, when people are daily stabbed and shot on their doorsteps, when in the London riots last year the youth of our nation went on a vile and destructive crime spree that left a bitter taste in everybody's mouths, making those same people the main characters and asking the ordinary British audience member to identify with and like them is an incredibly difficult ask.

To further complicate matters, their opening action is to mug a hard working female nurse. Instead of taking on bully-boy police officers, a rival gang, frankly anything that could gain our sympathy, they threaten and rob an innocent, decent, vulnerable member of society that couldn't have been better calculated to make us hate them.

Admittedly, the film does settle down into a rather familiar story and character arc where the character does something bad and then seeks redemption through heroic action, and here the film gets it absolutely right too. John Boyega is also a star in the making, and if anyone has seen him in My Murder, in which he plays a real life murder victim in a similarly violent youth gang culture, I'm sure they can agree he's an exceptional British talent and one to watch for the future.

In short, I was rooting for the 'heroes' by the end, but was similarly repulsed by their behaviour at the start. I can completely empathise with people who cannot bring themselves to like them, regardless of their redemptive behaviour later in the movie. Labelling these critics 'racist' or 'unable to appreciate anti-heroes' is just wrong. While in some people, race is probably a factor, I think people don't like them because they so accurately portray the bogeyman of contemporary British society. That is its strength, but at the same time, also its weakness.

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Basically because they robbed an "upstanding white pretty girl" people find them reprehensible lol. We have no clue if this woman is a good citizen or not, she could have been a serial killer for all you know, yet you all assumeeeeee

Life's tough, it's tougher if you're stupid.

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@shystichu

Exactly! That's all the hate this film gets is really about (that the main characters aren't white) and they know it! They probably wouldn't have given a damn whether the nurse got mugged if she was black,anyway!

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If a white activist says "I represent white people" he's labelled a 'racist', if a black person says "I represent black people" then they're 'upstanding members' of their community.


the difference is that white people aren't discriminated against in the same way or to the extent that other races are. yes there is racism against white people, but the effects it has had on the general population are nothing compared to the effects of racism against black people.

if there was a place where whites were the minority and they stood up to their black oppressors to demand humane treatment, they wouldn't be seen as racist. that situation just hasn't happened.

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Zimbabwe?

As always I apologise for my poor grammar' speeling and use of RanDOm cAPitaLS

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you have a point there. and do you agree that white people standing up to black people in that situation would not be considered racist?

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@Mandroid


Because white folks originally invaded their countries hundreds of years ago, made them slaves, and stole all the resources they could get from them? THAT'S why. Not because England was so damn great or anything, but because the English pushed them the hell out of their own countries in the first damn place! Quit acting like you don't know that!

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These teenagers robbed a woman at knife point. White or black is irrelevant. A lot of people on this board seem almost to imply that because she is white and they are black they should be forgiven. And others that if she was black and they were white, people would have forgiven the white muggers. It's all complete nonsense.

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@james_ian_miller


A lot of people on this board seem almost to imply that because she is white and they are black they should be forgiven. And others that if she was black and they were white, people would have forgiven the white muggers. It's all complete nonsense.


You completely missed the point---no one is even remotely trying to say what you claim at all. The point is, the hate that gets thrown at these characters in this particular film has been on overkill----what they did was wrong as hell,but come on---like I've said before on this board, I've seen characters commit WAY more horrible acts in other movies, but yet this film with these particular characters get the most hate thrown at them. My point is, it's clearl ybecause thse kids are black---there's no getting around that. If they were white kids, you wouldn't see all this talk of them being ireedeemable criminals (which they aren't, as the movie later shows.) I mean, too many people on the board act like this is the worst movie ever seen because of the opening scene---all I can say, is that the people who thinks that, they obviously have NEVER seen any other movies,period.

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The lead characters were repulsive, they were violent muggers and there was still not heroes at the end and Cornish just presented a Daily Mail fantasy of Black youth culture.

Its that man again!!

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This was an excellent summary. I also found it hard to root for the main characters not because they were bad, but because they were unlikable. If you can't get the audiences sympathies then they won't feel the suspense. Quite frankly I expected Moses to die and didn't really care if he did. In facts, after everything he was responsible for it only seemed fair he would die, not be cheered at the end.

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The problem with Attack the Block's characters is that they are so real and so much a part of everyday life for those living in Britain and especially London


Really London is like this ?

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If a young person playing a part of a bad guy makes you hate him, that's a good actor. This doesn't necessarily only reflect British inner cities, change the accents and it could be any big city in the world. Anywhere there is poverty linked with minimal adult guidance you will find groups like this. I enjoyed this movie and was sucked in from the start, well soon after the opening credits anyways.

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This whole "they were bad kids so I hated the whole movie" things is so garbage. There are so many characters in TV/movies that are way worse than these kids and people rave about them. Look at the show Misftis. That's also about a similar group of *beep* kids who do illegal stuff and it's loved by most people who watch it. Your whole "Americans would like this" statement makes your whole point moot anyway. You're saying that people who live so close to this sort of crime won't like it 'cause they have dealt with it or been near it. Well I'm sorry to tell ya my friend but America has some real gang violence, especially in certain areas. So if they still like it then it just proves living near it won't automatically make them hate this movie.

People who get turned off at the very start because someone does something bad and then refuse to continue watching to see how this will play out are morons. You can't judge a whole movie based on the first scene. Most redemption's don't take place until the very end. Han Solo didn't get his redemption until he flew in on the millennium falcon at the end of A New Hope. Sure, you got to see parts of his good side throughout the movie but I saw that in the kids as well in Attack the Block.

Honestly, what did you people want? For them to have some cliche moment at the end where they all sit around and realize they've made a huge mistake, talk about their feelings, and sing kumbaya? Just because their redemption wasn't a complete 180 doesn't mean they weren't somewhat redeemed. This movie took place over a single night; they're not going to become saints right away, especially because where they live has a whole culture of violence which is hard for some kids to escape.

I guess to each their own but I found the characters appealing and I was definitely rooting for them. I thought the who group dynamic was hilariously entertaining to watch. The relationship between the lady who was robbed and Moses was quite interesting too. This is not to mention the spectacular looking aliens, the gritty realism of the setting, and the fun action sequences.

This is all fictional, no one really got mugged. If people can watch people get gunned down in gangster movies and still root for the gangsters they can watch this.

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beautiful post, thank you.

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