What's with all the cursing?
I could put up with all the silliness of the guns and such but the cursing for no reason is really jarring and just yanks you out of the film entirely.
I could put up with all the silliness of the guns and such but the cursing for no reason is really jarring and just yanks you out of the film entirely.
I totally understand what you mean; I am not a prude by any means and when a film 'call for it' I see where some heavy duty language would fit in with the theme of the movie (say a 'Prison' or 'Gang' film, or a Kevin Smith film particularly :) But, in 'Period' films or when say they try to make a modern FILM NOIR set in the 1940's, for example, or a period Western, it COMPLETELY jars me and pulls me out of the film and to me personally, kind of ruins it if they use heavier language.
However, although I didn't particularly care for the way they used the language here even though at times it was mildly funny, since the film was clearly and DELIBERATELY tongue-in-cheek and over the top, it just seemed basically like it was part of the overall approach.
Now, one film where I think the director SERIOUSLY screwed up and ruined an otherwise BRILLIANT film, was Steven Soderbergh's 'THE GOOD GERMAN'. And, it is SO damned weird too, because he DELIBERATELY used cameras and lenses from the 1940's to give it an authentic look and feel. And EVERYTHING else was bloody perfect! Except... to me anyway, the scenes where he gave them a modern tone, say with the explicit sex scenes and language, it COMPLETELY ruined it for me. All of the sudden you weren't in post war Germany, you were watching George Clooney cuss and have sex. And, I truly think it damaged the way it was received. I keep thinking, if he had ONLY kept the exact same tone, accurate to the perceived period, throughout ALL the aspects of the film (not just the bloody lenses) THEN, I feel he really would have had a total masterpiece on his hands that people would be praising to this day. But, in allowing more 'modern' elements in it, I feel that it just took away from the overall perceived 'authenticity' of it. Just think how amazing it would have been if it REALLY came across just EXACTLY as a well done movie from that time would have looked, sounded, and felt; WOW, now that would have really been something different.
Anyway, sorry to go on, but what you brought up just reminded me of a far, FAR more egregious case of what you are saying...
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Do people even realize that people in all times and in all places swore, it wasn't less often they swore just as much as us and for the same reasons we did and surprise but they also had sex, yes even back in 1940. Making a movie where people did not swear or ever had sex is jarring and unrealistic since it does happen, has happened and will always happen. Swearing is probably as old as language is, the first caveman who stubbed his toe most likely created the first swear and it has evolved from there and never stopped.
share"the first caveman who stubbed his toe most likely created the first swear and it has evolved from there and never stopped..."
Heh, I had a good laugh over that one
Well, of course the point you make is quite true and you are exactly right. BUT... at least for myself, I am speaking strictly from a cinematic viewpoint, perhaps from the way I am USED to viewing movies from older times and what I may personally prefer.
Sure people have been doing all these things forever, but to me (and again, NOT so much really with this film) when movies are set in older times and they are really TRYING to convey the feelings and customs of the time and are trying to give it a feel of authenticity, well for me personally, it just pulls me out of the film if it HAPPENS to be a Classic Genre where one is not used to hearing / seeing those things, such as Classic Film Noir, etc.
It really is just a personal preference I guess; you sound like you could watch a Western or Film Noir, or say in Soderbergh's case, a film about WWII and have extensive cussing, sex, and whatnot, and maybe it wouldn't phase you in the least or take away from your enjoyment of the film. For me it would...
It's just that for movies to be entertaining, again for me personally, there are certain expectations for certain Genres. For example, If I am watching the awesome Orson Welles Classic 'JANE AIRE', I really do not want to see ol' Orson banging away upon the lovely Joan Fontaine and expressing lustily, 'Hey B*tch, you are one HELL of a good F \/ < k!!!'
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Agreed, I'm not shy about watching movies with "F" bombs or dropping them myself but half of them seemed really forced and unnecessary. a couple of them brought a good laugh.. especially their separate yet same reaction to the house: "You've got to be f_cking kidding me..." but beyond that, they were jarring and brought me out of the film for a minute...
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Yep...
On the nose my friend...
That's PRECISELY my point; Does it take you out of the film...?
EVERYTHING in a movie should add to it and make it better. If something detracts from it, it should be left out.
Pure and simple...
The poster above who replied to my little 'treatise' on the subject said that since cussing is eternal and universal that it's no big deal; fine. But, going by what I can see here as a fairly large proportion of people JUST IN THIS THREAD stating that the cussing 'took them out of the film' or 'found it out of place' or 'jarring' or incongruous with the time period or Genre, judging just by that, I think that it clearly shows that quite a few people ARE indeed annoyed by it in this film and would be reason enough for the film makers to have either left it out or at least used it much more sparingly (like your comment about their tandem reactions to the house )
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they wanted it to be vulgar, this is a movie for high schoolers and adults, THERE'S GONNA BE SWEARING, and also, I swear every *beep* day so what's the big *beep* deal?
shareThe occasional cursing was there for a reason. I jarred you out of the story just enough to remind you that you were watching a spoof.
shareMy objection to it was that it served no purpose. I like my cussing to have a reason, but here it added nothing,
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