People aren't evil! We can't punish them! We must rehabilitate them!
It's always the parent's fault!
CPS CPS CPS!!!
When you guys get tired of the Rousseau notion and accept man is flawed from day one, you'll realize that there are no solutions, there are only trade offs.
This is human nature guys. Get used to it.
The more you try and hide from it the more it will walk all over you.
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Caramel, as you may have heard before, weapons don't kill people. People kill people. Lions and tigers and bears kill people.
The right to bear arms is as important as freedom of speech, and you can bet that if we lose one of these rights, losing the other, and more, won't be far behind.
Availability of weapons does not make a killer. If that were the case, and guns were taken away from everyone (an impossible task), we'd also have to ban knives, axes, tall buildings, cars, Drano, fireplace pokers, rat poison, tire irons, and pointy sticks. If some looney wants to go on a killing spree, and no one knows or guesses what's about to happen and stops them, they're going to find a way to do it. Political affiliation has nothing to do with it.
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But since you want to bring up politics, it's the hardcore conservatives (like yourself) who thinks everyone should have weapons, weapons that these messed up kids get hold of and go on a killing spree. So yes, some things occur because of human nature, and some things occur because messed up individuals have such open access to weapons that bring harm to other members of the same species.
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This is demonstrably untrue. Plenty of countries don't allow private citizens to own non hunting firearms, and they have much less gun violence (obviously), without losing their "freedom". The UK doesn't allow firearms, you hear about a lot of crazies poisoning the water supply over there? Look around you, there are plenty of real world examples to draw from, we are off the charts in violent gun related crimes. The right to bear arms is fine, in a well regulated state militia. Your notion of a rootin' tootin' gun toting pioneer badass is woefully outdated. Because in 2015, we really need Regional Accounts Managers to be armed to the teeth to prevent government tyranny. LOfreakinL.
Edit: My necro skills are on fleek.
"The right to bear arms is as important as freedom of speech,"
why?
"and you can bet that if we lose one of these rights, losing the other, and more, won't be far behind. "
explain.
"Availability of weapons does not make a killer."
true, but it makes it easier for cowards who are potential murderers to step ahead.
"If that were the case, and guns were taken away from everyone (an impossible task), we'd also have to ban knives, axes, tall buildings, cars, Drano, fireplace pokers, rat poison, tire irons, and pointy sticks."
bs. killing someone at close distance takes much more courage than shooting someone. as for poisons, yes that would be an impossible task to ban.
"The right to bear arms is as important as freedom of speech,"
why?
"and you can bet that if we lose one of these rights, losing the other, and more, won't be far behind. "
explain.
"Availability of weapons does not make a killer."
true, but it makes it easier for cowards who are potential murderers to step ahead.
"If that were the case, and guns were taken away from everyone (an impossible task), we'd also have to ban knives, axes, tall buildings, cars, Drano, fireplace pokers, rat poison, tire irons, and pointy sticks."
bs. killing someone at close distance takes much more courage than shooting someone. as for poisons, yes that would be an impossible task to ban."
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Well, apparently enough people felt strongly enough about it to make it part of the Constitution. That pretty much speaks for itself. "
well by that logic justin bieber must do pretty awesome music.
"This is pretty much common sense. Once a goverment takes away one right, it's easier and easier to take away others."
yeah, because you and your 12 gage will surely fight off the govermential powers if they should decide to overturn us, right?
"Read a book. "
didn't help you much it seems.
"People who kill their parents, siblings, spouses, or a classroom full of their classmates are, by definition, cowards."
psychopaths yes. cowards? no. while wrong it still takes quite a bit of courage.
let me guess, our troops are also cowards in your eyes, right?
"If these explanations are not good enough for you"
what explanations.
"you're going to have to look somewhere else for understanding. "
trust me sugar, the least i need is YOUR vote.
"I've made my point."
what point?
"But I won't argue it one an IMDb board."
obviously. xD
"Well, apparently enough people felt strongly enough about it to make it part of the Constitution. That pretty much speaks for itself."
It wasn't so much a question of "enough people" as "the right people". The constitution wasn't made democratically, it was written by a handful of aristocrats who organised the revolution. It was also written at a very different time. The second amendment had far more of a practical function than a moral one. At the time, the USA was a newly formed country without the money or organisation to form a standing army so it depended on a voluntary militia to defend it from foreign invasion (which was a very likely thing at the time since the US, Spain, France, Portugal, England and even native tribes were all fighting over the land on the continent). That voluntary militia obviously needed to be armed to go to war but the government couldn't afford to pay for all their weapons so getting them to buy their own was the smart move at the time.
Liberal here too and nothing you said in the OP is true about the way I think or what I believe, nor is it true about any other liberal that I know.
I feel sorry for people like you that really believe everyone is completely one side or the other and can't agree on any point of view.
People like you are very secluded, close minded and will never know half the joy that most of us do - those of us who understand that each person is an individual and not cookie cutter clones who all fit in little boxes.
The rest of us get to know people on an individual basis and have a much wider and diverse group of friends. Our lives are much more complex and happier than the "libbies this and repubs that" sad souls.
If you want to live your life in a box you're welcome to it but I just don't understand people who only want those who are identical "think clones" around them and hate anyone who might have different views. How boring and, I'll say it again, just plain sad.
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Liberal here too and nothing you said in the OP is true about the way I think or what I believe, nor is it true about any other liberal that I know.
of this lousy film seems to be that
IT IS THE HUSBAND'S / WHITE GUY'S FAULT
I'm a liberal and thought it was an excellent film. More about the philosophical question of free will vs. determinism and the psychological issue of nature vs. nurture. Don't make it political.
shareHow could possibly make the judgment that adherents to a certain political mindset think the way you've depicted in your post? Where did you even get that from, "It's always the parent's fault"???
shareHere's a perfect example of how the libs entitlement/victim culture is destroying the country. In California (you know, the left coast) their poor widdle students are failing. Do they do something about them not learning? No. They lower the standards so that the failing students will graduate:
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/06/10/lausd-lowers-standards-to-let-22000-failing-students-graduate-some-as-old-as-22/
And if you don't like that source, here's one from the New York Slimes. Even liberal pseudo-journalism can't even sugar coat this one.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/30/education/30educ.html?_r=0
I don't love her.. She kicked me in the face!!
I like to read about psychopaths (I find them interesting because they don't feel negative emotions like fear, shame, etc). Supposedly psychologists can spot a sociopathic kid as young as 2 or 3, but nobody wants to talk openly about it for fear of the kid being labeled. But they feel like these traits can be spotted early just like in the movie.
shareI bet you are an idiot. This movie was great, what does your political interest have to with it. In fact, the message of the movie stands squarely with my value system, but I don't call people names based on politics.
Maybe you should travel out of Bubbaland and meet people who don't think the same way you do? Perhaps you may realize that politics don't always make you that different, ignorance does. I have friends from all political parties, major and minor, and have had since middle school, through high school and college. I do have a problem with a party of people, I have a problem with hateful fools who use the word "libbies" and think they are better off being dumb-a$$ed.
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