the banana scene


can't seem to get over the horror of the fact that he was going to use the banana to ...you know. Luckily she was a bit more sophisticated and outspoken than average.
that is awful. I mean it would hurt and might even damage her as it would have to be skin on as the peeled banana would just squish...what the hell was that about? And he used other poor young girls before her...did they have to endure his weird baby talk (i'm your Bubble Up, good grief!)and banana rape? if only young women were educated to the predatory way some people will behave to get what they want from them, it would spare them a lot of hurt and trauma.
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I always assumed David was talking about oral...
The scenario you mentioned never occurred to me. Yeah, that would be horrid.

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Perhaps you are right. I didn't think of oral. Because he said something ike " I thought we would use this to get the messy part out of the way"
and she says something like " I am not going to lose my virginity to a piece of fruit"
it's just so creepy!

"Mom's gonna fix it all soon. Mom's comin' round to put it back the way it oughta be."

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Maybe I misunderstood that part. I assumed he got out the banana to show her how to put a condom on. I know some people in sex ed. class would learn how to put condoms on bananas.

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Sorry to break it to you, but 'I'm not going to lose my virginity to a piece of fruit' means exactly what it says.

I cringed.

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I cringed as well. It was just so creepy. And the bubbalu/minnie... yuck.













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yuck indeed, can't think of a more appropriate term. I never liked that guy ever since he raped and murdered Hilary Swank in Boys Don't Cry. I know, he's a good actor, but you can't help but associate....Not a big Maggie Gyllenhaal fan but she could've done better than this guy (and younger too lol)
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Chaoscoyote you do realize that you have inadvertently spoiled Boys Don't Cry for anyone who has not seen it.

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Funny thing is, I didn't think of it as a spoiler until you said it. Boys Don't Cry, is it any good and is it associated with the song?

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thank you maawab fir pointing out about the spoiler of Boys Dont Cry. I was so pissed when i read that cause I havent had a chance to see that film yet. Guess I can cross that off my list damn it.

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Like this movie, Boys Don't Cry is based on a true story, so don't be too hard on the poster. Brandon Teena really was murdered.

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Like this movie, Boys Don't Cry is based on a true story, so don't be too hard on the poster. Brandon Teena really was murdered.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Brandon Teena's murder was pretty high profile (as it should be), so I really don't think of it as a spoiler. It's a tough story to read and a tough movie to watch. Makes me cry every time I watch it.



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Like this movie, Boys Don't Cry is based on a true story, so don't be too hard on the poster. Brandon Teena really was murdered.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Brandon Teena's murder was pretty high profile (as it should be), so I really don't think of it as a spoiler. It's a tough story to read and a tough movie to watch. Makes me cry every time I watch it.



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Yeah, that's douchey. I recently defriended someone who spoiled the new Star Wars on his FB wall. I told him I defriended him and he swore up and down at me.

Classy.



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He's only 6 years older than Maggie so don't see why she would need to go younger when it isn't a big age gap.

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Plenty of us can easily avoid associating an actor and his roles together, to the point of saying his wife should have taken that into consideration before she got married to him. What is wrong with you?

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I think he's really hot, honestly.

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. I never liked that guy ever since he raped and murdered Hilary Swank in Boys Don't Cry.
I completely forgot that was him in Boys Don't Cry. He's got to be an incredible actor because I wanted to claw his eyes out watching him in that movie lol.



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I took it that he wanted to use the banana on her instead of his penetration. After all, she told him that she wasn't going to let this moment be ruined by a piece of fruit. I think it was obvious he wanted to use it up her...

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I took it that he wanted to use the banana on her instead of his penetration.
Exactly ... I think when he said something about getting the "messy part out of the way" he was meaning to break her hymen. That would totally get me out of the mood lol.



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Nope, he was obviously talking about the real thing with Jenny saying that she wasnt going to lose her virginity to a piece of fruit, althought I did also think for a moment that the whole condom on the banana thing was going to happen, this is playing with the viewers minds.
Although gross, this kind of thing can happen. The manipulation of the older man to seduce the younger girl is brought across in the character of David just by that line about avoiding the mess. He is treating Jenny like a child by presenting her with the banana and saying this masking it into him being concerned for her. Jenny is behaving in a much more mature way than he is and confirms this by asking him to treat her like an adult when she does sleep with him. I also think its great that they do not show the sex scene and it skips straight to the 'Do you still feel like a school girl?' question following this. Contrasted with Jenny stood smoking surrounded by the silk curtains represents childhood innocence lost.

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I actually thought he was gonna turn out to be gay. Because a banana? That's just stupid! (a cucumber or carrot maybe...) It seemed like he was trying to avoid sex. When she had showed him her breasts he just covers her back up? A smooth talking BS'er like him could have gotten her to give it up that night. He waited an awful long time to do her.

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It's implied, too, that he's really a bit rubbish in bed, and so was perhaps worried that when it came to the moment, he might not perform....He was altogether immature and self-obsessed, and didn't really care what part she played (never mind romance; thanks to a banana, he doesn't have to cope with all that 'messy bit').
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Agreed. I think he gravitated towards young virgins because they wouldn't have any experience to compare him to. They wouldn't know he was bad in bed.

Plus, I think the fact that he wanted to get through the "messy bit" by using a banana showed that he really didn't care about her at all. For him, it was all about what he wanted from her.





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I think he liked the thrill of the chase. Such a loser!

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Yes, this scene was completelly out of characters...

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That was not Maggie Gylenhall (however you spell it) it was Carrie something

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Maggie Gyllenhaal is married to Peter Sarsgaard.

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Yeah, that's what the poster meant--Maggie is married to Peter who played el creepo David. I'm sure he's a decent guy in real life. Just pretty good at playing icky men. It's a niche he's carved for himself.

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I was just saying that! How did he find himself specializing in creepy dudes? He'd make a great serial killer.

That banana scene just freaked me out. I still can't get over it. I would have RUN from that guy after he suggested that.

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when the part david was bad in bed was said? think i missed this part

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I can't believe how dumb everyone on this board is.

Peter Sarsgaard was going to use the banana to break her hymen. She was a virgin, and he was hoping to avoid getting bled on.

It wasn't for condoms, it wasn't for oral, he wasn't being an outlandish creep, just misguided. Think, guys.

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he was a pedophile, just add the banana to the list; he'd spend a good 10 years in jail round here for what he did to her even not including the banana.

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Actually he wasn't a pedophile, seeing as how Jenny was a post-pubescent girl. And as for going to prison for ten years for doing what he did, she was 16 which is the age of consent in many US states and presumably the UK at the time, so probably not. Just because he's a creep doesn't mean he has any type of pschyiatric disorder or even has done anything illegal.

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Yes, I agree. But I do think there were at least a couple of other posters who seemed to understand that the banana's purpose was to avoid the messiness inherent in "popping the cherry". (BTW, I'd normally apologize for mixing metaphors, but I'm not sure if the same should hold true for mixing fruits.)

The only other thing I'd add is that I think the whole purpose of the banana scene was to give us the first hint that David is an "old hand" at this sort of thing: not just seducing women, but deflowering virgins.

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Yeah, I know -- I also understood immediately that the banana was for exactly that purpose, and if one was confused the bit in the dialogue about the "messy bit" is self-explanatory. I think some of the posters here may be very young and therefore miss references like this one. I hope this is the case anyway as how anyone thinks it has to do with anything else (oral?!?) sort of baffles me. The whole point is that David is a loser for repeatedly picking up school girls (at least Helen is Danny's age), and he isn't even man enough to deflower Jenny properly but wants a fruit to do the "messy" work for him.

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For a long time women were under social pressure to look the other way when their husbands cheated. By the 60s, it had begun to die off, but I'm sure she was one of those who would rather have had a roof over her head and an income than divorce him. There was also a lot of social stigma about divorce, too, which may partly explain why she stayed with him.

She may also have thought, "He'll get it together eventually and will come back to me" but by that time she was probably getting fed up with it all.


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That made me feel rather disturbed, he's a bit of a creep.

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Yeah that was an interesting scene.
What did make me laugh though was minutes later when she pretended it was a phone.

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Zing - scene straight after they have sex.

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Aaaaand now "Bananaphone" is stuck in my head. Permanently.

Ringringringringring....

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Yeah I thought he was going to show her how to put a condom on it... Safe Sex lol

Anyway as for other posters saying it was to break her hymen...wow lol, I didn't think of that at all but that is still gross wanting to use a banana. To avoid being bled on? really? you're having sex! body juices get on you! and all he's worried about is some damn blood.



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