Conservatives doing a victory lap over this movie flopping...
I can't stand them!
sharedo you have children?
shareI do not. But if I had, I would introduce them to diversity.
shareSo you would groom your own children?
I'm glad you don't have kids then.
OK, Tucker Carlson.
shareHow exactly is it grooming?
sharei groomed my children to be upstanding members of society.
So I guessing that you didn't even bothering teaching your children the difference between right and wrong?
Exposing your kids to degeneracy and conditioning them accept or participate in sexual deviancy is WRONG and doesn't make them upstanding members of society, it makes them perverts and it makes you a monster.
Raising your boys to be strong masculine men and raising your girls to embrace their natural feminine traits while also teaching them to be traditionally conservative with Christian values and a strong patriotic love of their country, their history, their heritage and their people is RIGHT.
If you program your kids to be woke and leftwing then you have failed and you and your kids are garbage humans who will make this once great nation even more of a diverse multicultural gay shithole then it already is.
Homosexuality is not degenerate; people who think this need to get their minds out of the gutter. Why should I be interested in christian values while living in a country that promises freedom of religion and the right to not practice any religion at all?
I made sure my children were aware of injustice that exists all around them so they did not become one of the oppressors.
Remember, just because homosexuals exist, does not mean you have to be one.
So which cultures are acceptable to exist in the USA? Can you be specific?
That's a lot of words to type just to say that you're a leftist nutjob. Being gay is not okay and it never was. I guess the propaganda really worked on you.
Anyways, it is not appropriate to introduce all of this sexuality to children. And before you reply with "wHaT iF tHeY wErE a StRaIgHt CoUpLe?". It wouldn't be acceptable then if they were doing anything more than kissing. Straight is normal and healthy and is how we and all other animals reproduce. It is simply not the same.
And yes, homosexuality is degenerate. Gay rights was a mistake and is the slippery slope that is on it's way to legalized incestsexuality, zoosexuality and pedosexuality.
Teaching your children to not oppress others is not a sign of a leftist nutjob.
"Incestsexuality, zoosexuality and pedosexuality" is mainly a problem associated with people who call themselves straight. Claiming it is a gay problem is like denying it exists or is not a problem that straight people need be concerned with.
Teaching your children to not oppress others...
"Incestsexuality, zoosexuality and pedosexuality" is mainly a problem associated with people who call themselves straight.
Show me your research, if it actually exists then.
shareWell, for starters, this wonderful woman makes a lot of thorough and in depth videos on these subjects. Start here.
https://www.youtube.com/c/SydneyWatson/videos
What little I've seen of this dingbat tells me that she is nuts. If her videos are what you call research, then it seems you are fine with others telling you how to feel and think on certain matters.
You probably do not have any original thoughts of your own .
She actually does her research and presents it thoroughly. I provided you a portal to begin your journey and you rejected it.
Your opinion of her tells me everything I need to know about you and that is that you are a damn commie.
Nope. I'm a retired Sailor, amateur gunsmith, shooting coach, silencer maker and all around good guy.
I think Trump is a RINO gun grabber with a legion of people who care more about their favorite politician than their own integrity.
Everything you said is stupid and I feel more stupid for having read it. You are literally the only person in the world who would call Trump a RINO.
shareNo. Trump is a gun grabber and a RINO. I'm not the only one who thinks so. https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/577939-i-voted-for-trump-in-2020-he-proved-to-be-the-ultimate-rino-in-2021/
Read these links.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4716589/user-clip-trump-take-guns-first-due-process-second
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf
Or perhaps you think Trump's amendment of the CFR is fake and C-Span is fake?
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Is this the part you're getting your panties in a twist over?
shareHonestly, my issue with the movie isn't the lesbian kiss, it's the forced diversity and all these black characters in movies and TV shows in recent years that is part of an intentional plan to further normalize and encourage diversity and multiculturalism. If you pay attention to ads or commercials on TV you'll notice the extremely high amount of interracial couples.
Take this movie for example. Everyone is focusing on the lesbian kiss which is bad but are seemingly too afraid of being labeled racist by mentioning the fact that the ugly black lesbian character is only black due to these forced diversity initiatives and they are also failing to point that it is also an interracial lesbian couple at that.
The intense blackwashing of Western\White culture such as Amazon's new Lord of The Rings series where they introduce a black elf, a black dwarf and a black hobbit is all part of the larger White Replacement agenda and this Lightyear movie is just the latest example of that. Netflix is famous for constantly race swapping White characters which is why their Cowboy Bebop adaptation failed and why their stock is tanking along with Disney's stock because of shitty shows like Obi-Wan Kenobi where they shoehorned in a talentless black actress and made her the star of the show for no other reason then that she is black and a woman. If you've seen any recent British shows, you'd think black people were 30% of the UK population when they are actually only 3% of the population.
I am tired of the woke agenda destroying so many beloved franchises that were written or made by White people and have established lore and characters by making them all gay, diverse and feminist. The only thing that wokeness is doing is creating an obvious contrast between the movies most people grew up with and this garbage being pumped out now that is filled with homophilia and ugly and talentless diversity hires. It's also fomenting racial hatred and furthering the divide in this country.
Forced diversity? Who forced the film producer to deviate from an all white, all heterosexual cast of characters? Or is it some other form of diversity you're speaking of?
The world is extremely diverse, in other words diversity is normal. What are you trying to make it into? Exactly which forced diversity issues are you talking about? Why would you oppose interracial couples?
Why is a lesbian kiss bad?
You are under no obligation to watch programming you are opposed to; but you make it seem like you must do so and entertainment companies have some sort of obligation to cater to your desires.
So exactly which franchises are now all gay, diverse and feminist? None of them are of course; you just think people reading your post are stupid enough to believe your claims.
Your BS claims are a lame attempt at promoting racial hatred. Most of the rest of the world understands that this stuff is fiction and simply rolls with it or ignores it.
Forced diversity? Who forced the film producer to deviate from an all white, all heterosexual cast of characters?
The world is extremely diverse, in other words diversity is normal.
Unless you can name names, then I think you're just making up crap.
America is not a white country. It's citizens have always been mixing their blood with those who you do not consider to be white. Hard core racists even started a war to make us more white, but they lost.
Diversity is a fact, no matter how you feel about it.
We use Arabic numbers. But you didn't know that because your racism blinds you to what almost everyone else knows.
How is it that you confidently claim that black people can't be a part of American culture? Surely you are aware that there are black producers, writers, actors and other artists that contribute to our culture as a whole?
Why can't you accept that a person's worth is based on what they accomplish instead of the color of their skin?
YoU'rE jUsT bEiNg RaCiSt
We use Arabic numbers.
Surely you are aware that there are black producers, writers, actors...
Why can't you accept that a person's worth is based on what they accomplish instead of the color of their skin?
Show me your math on how over represented blacks are in entertainment in the USA.
You are absolutely not about merit when you reject people based on their skin color.
You are a very poor judge of character. Owens says the Apollo moon landings are a hoax and that there is nothing anyone can say that will convince her otherwise.
You have made it very clear that you think skin color is what matters the most. Why backpedal?
Show me your math on how over represented blacks are in entertainment in the USA.
You are absolutely not about merit when you reject people based on their skin color.
You are a very poor judge of character.
Owens says the Apollo moon landings are a hoax
You have made it very clear that you think skin color is what matters the most.
Like I said; you're a poor judge of character. I don't have to prove Owens wrong. She claimed that Apollo, a well documented event, was fake. It is much worse to claim that nothing can convince her otherwise.
So if 9/11, JFK, Lincoln, Uvalde and the Ukraine is all a hoax, what events do you believe happened for real? Are you a member of the September Clues forum?
Can you link to a video from Candace's own youtube account where she actually said that because I don't remember that or is this just some bullshit that you are regurgitating from a leftwing personality, commentator or "news" source. You don't really just expect me to take your word, right?
Well I believe that the 2020 election was rigged and stolen. Basically anything that comes from the government or a leftwing source is either a hoax or a lie (same thing really) but if it comes from the right or someone like Alex Jones then it is definitely true. "September Clues forum" Never heard of it.
Not a video, one of her tweets.
Now for some light-hearted fun. What’s the one “conspiracy theory” that no matter what anyone says you believe is true. Mine is that the moon landing in 1969 was completely faked.
Just nothing about it makes sense. Especially NASA “accidentally erasing” the original footage.
Why is a lesbian kiss bad?
You are under no obligation to watch ... entertainment companies have some sort of obligation to cater to your desires
So exactly which franchises are now all gay, diverse and feminist?
Your BS claims are a lame attempt at promoting racial hatred
Most of the rest of the world understands that this stuff is fiction and simply rolls with it or ignores it.
Most of your "white America" does not agree with your assessment of gay people.
When you say "our art", do you mean only white people? You can make your own art to enjoy. No one is under any obligation to make anything that caters to your twisted views of morality.
While I enjoy some plots more than others, if someone is putting ideas I find offensive in a program, I just stop watching it. Since I'm not morally or legally bound to watch any kind of entertainment, it does not really matter to me much. I'll just watch something else. I just don't feel that same sense of entitlement that you do when it comes to the entertainment industry.
The God is Not Dead film franchise was profitable. Does that count? Or is it one that you consider to be woke? Why are you not taking the easy way out and listing those film franchises that are not "woke"
All words are made up as a form of communication. Why are you making a big deal about words?
Producers of entertain are doing it for the money, mostly. Whites are a minority on the Earth, so producers want to appeal to more people so they can make more money.
Minorities and everyone else are all crying about getting their share. Are you doing anything other than pissing and moaning on an obscure forum like MovieChat?
Most of your "white America" does not agree with your assessment of gay people.
When you say "our art"
The God is Not Dead film franchise was profitable. Does that count?
All words are made up as a form of communication. Why are you making a big deal about words?
Producers of entertain are doing it for the money, mostly.
Whites are a minority on the Earth
You have not seen the polls regarding gay rights?
Are you certain that any significant portion of white people would be willing to be part of your "we" BS?
You can say anything you want here' you should stop being evasive though.
Whites have had it very good in America. Perhaps you can help diversify African countries by moving you and your ilk there? You think you can force them to diversify?
No
Yes
I'm not, your the one who has lost this entire debate we are having. All you do is spew leftwing nonsense while calling me rAcIsT. You have not answered or rebutted many of my points and questions.
Maybe because we (Whites) built this country and invented nearly every aspect of modern civilization. We should have it better then others. Why don't you move to Africa. You are the ones who are always going on about how you hate this country, it's history, the flag, it's values etc. You people are the ones who champion diversity and think it makes us stronger. You fucking move to Africa and experience all of the multiculturalism and cultural enrichment you people seem to love so much. But you won't because you actually love America and everything else that your (I'm assuming) White ancestors created. Saying stupid shit like you just did is why I'm winning. I would tell you to use your brain but you're a liberal so...
Not a liberal and I'm probably more conservative than you. You can't just wave your "I'm a racist banner" then claim you're not racist and conservative. Well, you can if you want everyone to think you're nuts. Good luck with that.
shareNot a liberal and I'm probably more conservative than you.
MAGA are not conservative, they are RINO's for the most part. They are anti-gun because they support a gun grabber like Trump without any reservations at all.
Yes, you are very racist and too cowardly to come right out and say it. Being insanely nuts is not the same as being conservative. The faster you learn this, the better it will be for you.
MAGA are not conservative, they are RINO's for the most part.
WTF is wrong with you? Trump is a proud gun grabber. He said he would ban bump stocks and did it by ordering the ATF to classify them as contraband machine guns.
You can read about it here. https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2018-12-26/pdf/2018-27763.pdf
Trump also wanted red flag laws without due process so any American could lose their guns for any reason. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4716589/user-clip-trump-take-guns-first-due-process-second
Every Trump supporter I've asked, refuses to tell me where they draw the line on gun control and gun grabs. It seems they would accept any form of gun control or gun grab as long as Trump does it.
Where do you draw the line? What kind of gun control would it take for you to stop supporting Trump? If you support Trump's gun control, then you are an obvious RINO.
Whatever, asshole. Trump is 2A all the way.
Trump is the greatest president this country has ever had during any living person's lifetime.
Your commie tricks won't sway me. Trump loves guns, MAGA loves guns and we love Trump.
Just as I thought. You think that the 2A includes the words "As long as Trump allows".
You're also a coward who is too scared to take a stand against anti-gun politicians where ever they are.
The feeling is mutual.
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Is it flopping, and why am I supposed to do a victory dance exactly? I mean, I'm not opposed to outbursts of celebration now and then but I do like to know why I am. Thanks.
Ever heard of that dumb phrase "get woke, go broke"?
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I have heard that expression, yes. I haven't seen the film so I don't know if it's woke or not. If it is, then yes, I will indeed do a victory lap if it flops due to wokeness. I mean, if it flops because it sucks then I don't really care.
But I don't pay to see any Hollyweird film woke or no. I just "streamed" Maverick for the heck of it (pretty cool - it's still in theaters where people pay money to see it). I might stream Lightyear if the reviews are good enough.
Not a "dumb phrase", its pretty accurate.
Yes, there are some EXCEPTIONS to the rule (films pushing an agenda and lecturing the audience that were nevertheless a big financial success and got rave reviews), but its very accurate to say that when a franchise "gets woke", it "goes broke" about 80% of the time.
That's because these woke studios are more concerned with promoting "the message" than coming up with a plausible, entertaining, or well-written story.
People who dislike this inconvenient truth just scramble to try and find evidence to the contrary, like claiming non-woke films are woke. Spider-Man: No Way Home was a huge financial success, it wasn't woke, but gee, Peter's best friend is played an Asian guy, so we'll pretend it was woke. Nope. It didn't have any political "message" to send. You didn't have a Chris Evans type a-hole saying people who don't like the movie are racist against asians. It was there to entertain. Crap that exists to push an agenda, like the West Side Story remake, Eternals, and Lightyear, keep flopping, and flopping, and flopping...
no one in the real world gives a fuck about "wokeness". hell, they probably don't know what that even is. a fake internet controversy
shareTell that to the 14 countries that outright banned this crapfest for pushing a political agenda.
"Not to worry guys, only a handful of butthurt internet trolls care about that stuff! Now release the film pretending long-term lesbian marriages were commonplace and readily accepted by everyone in 1995!"
You're just lucky we have freedom of speech in the U.S. and western countries, so they're allowed to promote that trash no matter how much audiences don't wanna hear it. Unfortunately for them, audiences will vote with their wallets!
You mean those Islamic backwards countries that ban western movies all the time? Big deal.
sharehere's why it flopped. nothing to do with a 2 second kiss https://variety.com/2022/film/news/lightyear-box-office-disney-pixar-expectations-1235298276/
shareHaving the kiss while not scissoring is just dumb.
shareme neither
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