1. There are 3 nuclear bombs which are putting millions and millions of lives in danger, and they're desperate to find out where they are.
2. There are 3 nuclear bombs which are putting millions and millions of lives in danger, and they're desperate to find out where they are.
3. He doesn't want to have anything to do with the torturing. It was expressively noted, even if you were watching with no volume.
4. The characters themselves ask the very same question, I'm started to doubt you actually watched the film now
5. It is never stated that she 'admires' his work, so I dont know where you've gotten that from. It is, however, stated that she was raped and tortured, and in turn killed and tortured those who wronged her, so naturally she believes that there are some people who deserve to be tortured, which is why her and H bonded together. Have you never felt a connection with someone whom you've shared a strong common interest/goal?
6. Everyone has their threshold, which is exactly the point this movie is making. The threshold of every character in this movie is tested, the army general, the colonel, the assistant director, Charles, Brody, Younger and, yes, Alvarez. And with each we find out what their limitations are, the general wants nothing to do with it and walks away, the colonel feels the same but is concerned about the bombs, the assistant director wants anything done to find the bombs, and the others call a halt when it comes to the children. Like H said, he would have to do something unthinkable to get Younger to talk.
7. He never claims to be a loyal American, he says he's an American citizen. Numerous times throughout the film he remarks that his name is Yussef, not Steven Arthur Younger. He does everything possible to distance himself from anything related to his American life.
Now, the only way I can believe that you did want the film, would be if you were either deaf or blind. You have obviously missed the majority of dialogue, and what you were left with, you were unable to realize the meanings behind the words. You really think their actions are completely unrealistic? Answer me this, what would you do if you knew someone had kidnapped your family and hidden them away somewhere and that person was caught. Would you torture him to find out where your family is? Would you stop someone else from doing the same? Would you want to kill his family so he knows what you're going through? Now what if is wasnt just your family, but everyone you've ever known and loved? How far would you go, or let someone go in order to protect them?
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wPatriot
13 years ago
6. Everyone has their threshold, which is exactly the point this movie is making. The threshold of every character in this movie is tested, the army general, the colonel, the assistant director, Charles, Brody, Younger and, yes, Alvarez. And with each we find out what their limitations are, the general wants nothing to do with it and walks away, the colonel feels the same but is concerned about the bombs, the assistant director wants anything done to find the bombs, and the others call a halt when it comes to the children. Like H said, he would have to do something unthinkable to get Younger to talk.
In fact, the way Alvarez started punching in on H showed that the whole 'cold as ice' thing was a facade (I guess it always is).
7. He never claims to be a loyal American, he says he's an American citizen. Numerous times throughout the film he remarks that his name is Yussef, not Steven Arthur Younger. He does everything possible to distance himself from anything related to his American life.
That... is not entirely true. He was pretty adamant about being proud of his country, being loyal, etc. His tyrade against Brody is a good example. As is his speech to the president.
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mark-hansen11
12 years ago
It's true he claims to be a loyal american. I figured his goal was to "fix" the americans future behavior towards others ("his") country.
Sort of like if the government opresses the people, it's the loyal people's job to fight against the government. But in turn, that could be seen as the people were rebels or terrorists, right?
I liked that facet of it anyway.
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m_haeri
12 years ago
Good points, it depends what kind of movie you are looking for and what are your expectations, when you put the dvd on and start to watch a James Bond movie and it turns out to be Unthinkable,,, you are definitely disappointed.
However this movie is beyond action flick, its about what is your philosophy of life and what you believe you are living for. And H doesn't believe in god.
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zotch40
11 years ago
mat_m_eagle laid it out very well. Then he asked what would I do. I would roll out a large size meat grinder and start with making the bomber's left hand into hamburger to feed to the dogs. Then I would bring out his kids and start to torture them in the same way. The bad guys chop off heads and think nothing of it. To counter that, some say, torture puts us on the same level and I say so what? I would pull out all the stops to save millions of innocent people from being vaporized. But then, I am not a wimpy left winger.
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dolores_medina
9 years ago
mat_m_eagle laid it out very well. Then he asked what would I do. I would roll out a large size meat grinder and start with making the bomber's left hand into hamburger to feed to the dogs. Then I would bring out his kids and start to torture them in the same way. The bad guys chop off heads and think nothing of it. To counter that, some say, torture puts us on the same level and I say so what? I would pull out all the stops to save millions of innocent people from being vaporized. But then, I am not a wimpy left winger.
Just want to say that as a weepy left winger I'd be right next to you, to cover for you In the " aggressive interrogation" when you need bathroom breaks, sleep...food.
This isn't about what " wing" you belong to. See what has me agreeing that sometimes torture is appropriate is there is a ticking clock.
If I had all the time In the world ya... treat it Like " he has rights bla bla bla"
The issue for me is 30 Million lives hang in the balance. And there is a countdown.
Torture and /or kill two kids to save the lives of millions? Why is there even a debate?
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eoval
10 years ago
You said it well mat. People who are unwilling to admit that a situation like that in Unthinkable are willfully blind in my opinion. The same type of people who try to deny that freedom is repressed in Iran, the same type of people who believe IS is a "jay-vee team," the same type of people who believe everything will be ok if we all just "get-along."
Well put my friend.
"I do not like mixing up moralities and mathematics."
Churchill
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