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Critics just hate everything YA so they are predisposed to dislike.


Specially dystopia. Hunger games got good reviews because it was the first Young adult dystopia since Lord of the flies and battle royale but critics are lazy and since THG they have based their reviews of other movies in the YA genre in silly comparisons.

If they must compare then they should compare to brave new world or Fahrenheit 451 instead of throwing everything YA in the same bag. The plots of Divergent, THG and the giver couldn't be more different but for the critics they are all the same. But if they applied the same standard (Art shouldn't repeat itself) to romances, and especially comic book based movies, no marvel adaptation nor DC for that matter would get a fresh rating.


Why the double standard?

Peter Travis, the rolling stone critic, in his review of the giver was clear. He wants the YA dystopia trend to stop. So he probably will do anything in his power to stop that trend by discouraging people to watch a movie.

The current onslaught of movies excreted from dystopian teen fiction would make any YA yak. So far, The Hunger Games franchise is working. But catch Divergent, The Host, Ender's Game, and The Mortal Instruments: City of Bones and see if you don't hear yourself scream: Make. It. Stop.



I wouldn't trust a guy who says Mortal instruments is a dystopian movie.But a lot of other people do.


I've realized a lot of people have started to distrust the rotten tomatoes ratings. That's just good.

The giver has flaws in editing and script but overall the acting and the story was compelling and good. If critics have applied the same standards to review the giver to the ones they use to judge comic movies the movie would've been a certified fresh.

Don't believe them nor me. Go and see yourselves.

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Unfortunately, the guy from Rolling Stone is right. It's so annoying that they're not even trying anymore. They take current feds and transform them into money. No matter how dumb it is. It's just The Industry, nobody cares and this simple formula is enough to make a movie.

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Who takes any notice of critics, I certainly don't.



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Steve McQueen


The actor or director?

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There is no part of the US or Western media that is NOT biased. NONE.

Thanks for your informative post.

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I have to agree with the critics who are sick of these young adult dystopian films.


The influx of them constantly has made this film lose its zeal.


I'd imagine if this was released before the hunger games was released it would have won awards. The themes are overplayed. The scenes cut in of humanity before sameness would have had much more an effect if we haven't been flooded with the same exact themes over the past few years. It's like a person who watches a lot of violent films becomes desensitized by violence in films. I felt like I've become desensitized by the whole genre that by the time I saw this film it just didn't pack an emotional punch like it would have if very similar films haven't been released lately.

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I don't bother watching Dystopian themed movies nor any of the zombie movies which Hollywood churns out one after the other. Two exceptions would be Mad Max which I think was the original and more recently would be Book of Eli. But once Hollywood sees something made money, and since they have loads of writers sitting around waiting to "capture the moment", they crack the whip and say, "Clone that". That's why all these awful zombie movies came out. If you look at ALL the movies that are on cable every single day - save for Turner Classic movies - and you looked on IMDB for their rating, chances are the average would be around 6.2.
So many variables go into making a great movie, I always wondered if the cast thinks while filming, "Is this worthy of an award?" But then, Hollywood being what it is, they've decided to invent MORE awards to pass out to average movies, and so you end up with Golden Globes and Critics Choice, because Hollywood will never pass up a chance to pat themselves on the back.
And then suddenly we find out that some of the Oscar Awards Committee didn't even bother watching "12 Years A Slave", they just saw the word 'slave' and turned in the ballot. Ha ha, so much for integrity. Just kidding, I hate Hollywood. There's no integrity on the ledger sheet either, its been written that ANY movie can appear to be a bust on the balance sheet, the "graphite correction factor" takes over. And they do that when they trick an actor into demanding a percentage of the box office. Then suddenly a movie that raked in $200 million has a ton of expenses attributed to it and the actor ends up making a lot less than anticipated. An egregious example: When John Belushi was a hot commodity the studio heads had to add the cost of the drugs he was taking onto the balance sheet, though methinks they hid it from prying eyes, perhaps under "daily expenses". You get the picture.

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