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Who else lost respect for Sarah?


Don't get me wrong, I love the movie. It's truly one of my favorite horror features. Nonetheless, I lost a great amount of sympathy for Sarah when she stabbed Juno in the leg and fled. I know Juno slept with her husband, but she didn't deserve that. When you're trapped in a cave infested with man-eating monsters, it's better to work together and find a way out. Does anybody else agree with me? 

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I don't think the idea was for the audience to lose respect for Sarah. I think it was representative of how truly far she had slipped from sanity at that point. She was operating on pure animalistic instincts / thought processes / rage in those moments. I didn't lose respect for her. I felt even sorrier for her because once she crossed that line (disabling Juno), there was no coming back. She was traumatized already but that act would haunt her and she would never forgive herself.

I think what Neil Marshall was also trying to do is illustrate that there were no clear heroes or villains. I appreciated that because life is like that. There is good and bad in everyone. Juno did some bad things but Sarah fell from grace too. I feel like Sarah's wrongdoing was a little more understandable though. Her bad deeds were done in an irrational state of mind, driven by complete and utter despair, whereas most of Juno's mistakes were made in a state of clarity.

Also keep in mind that Juno lied about leaving Beth behind. And Beth never made it clear to Sarah that she was stabbed on accident. So that made it look deliberate. Why wouldn't Sarah suspect that Juno would do the same to her? Especially while operating purely on survival instincts and paranoia? You could argue Sarah could have been up front with Juno and gotten the truth out of her...but Sarah was pissed off at her for many reasons by that point and didn't care to talk things out anymore. Additionally, Beth shows Sarah the necklace - proof of the affair - making Juno look even MORE suspect. Who is to say Sarah wouldn't think that Juno didn't want the truth to get out, and therefore left Beth to die?

Sarah had any number of reasons to do what she did. Not that it makes it right. Juno didn't deserve that. But the point is - Sarah was insane at that point and can't be held fully accountable.

It was a tragic misunderstanding that could have been prevented had Juno not kept secrets in the first place.

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Excellent, excellent post. Took the words right out of my mouth. Sarah had no right to do what she did, but you can't blame her, either. Every character in this movie has an understandable point of view. There are no heroes or villains. Even Juno has her noble moment, when she refuses to leave without Sarah. But that decision is ultimately what seals everyone's fates.

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Thanks! I love this film. I'm very passionate about it.

It bothers me a little when people take sides. Taking sides is besides the point in the case of these characters. Juno had mainly good intentions underlying everything and clearly felt remorse. Sarah was dealt a horrible hand of cards and caved in as a result. They were only human beings - not heroes or villains.

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"Caved in"? Nicely done :)

I agree with you by the way, and find the film more interesting for that very reason you describe. Some good and some bad in all of them. No sides to take, just humans being unpredictably human in extraordinary circumstances.

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lol. Believe it or not, I was not meaning for that to be a pun.

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I believe ya! People always say "no pun intended" whenever they make a pun, even though they usually do intend on it being a pun. Great unintentional pun, sir!

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The Movie plays the situation like Sarah is taking just revenge on Juno. I hated that.

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When I was trying to figure out why she stabbed her, that is about all I could think of was they must have been showing she was either paranoid and imagining things or just crazy from stress or something. Especially with the hallucinating scene right after it.

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Juno &"husband" deserved it..Sarah & child did not, but life isn't always fair.
edited to add: Juno not only lost Paul, but her self. She was genuinely sorry
and a warrior. She was on a purge. She loved Sarah







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The husband deserved to die just for having an affair?

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Yes. Let that be a lesson. Don't cheat or be prepared to die.

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I'm sorry but that's idiotic.

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it's the old testimony.

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The old testimony?

Is that what it is? Thanks, oh learned one.

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welcome, in quran she or he just get 100 lashes but some muslems prefer the bible

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That had zero to do with Juno sleeping with her husband and EVERYTHING to do with Juno had stabbed the other girl in the neck, left her to die....and then lied about it to Sarah. Did you seriously miss all of that?

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But she didn't really leave her friend to die. She thought she had killed her. And then was so guilty and shameful about it she couldn't tell the others what had happened.

Not to mention that the accidental stabbing occurred only in all the commotion of Juno trying in vain to save Holly.

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She didn't really leave her friend to die? She saw she was still breathing....and LEFT. Then she lied to the group about it. No one ever said she stabbed the friend intentionally. It was accidental....and yet she lied about it. She lied about what she knew about the cave. I mean it's like she lied constantly.

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Juno didn't lie. She was messed up about it and didn't want to talk about it. Beth was dead or dying and couldn't be saved. Who would it have helped for Juno to tell it accurately? What happened was messed up. It messed with Juno real bad. Like one of those things you wouldn't want to talk about out loud for twenty years. More than lying to Sarah, she was lying to herself, trying not to register in her mind what had happened. Juno spent the whole movie saving everybody. They all would have been toast the first few minutes, without Juno. Sarah was evil. Beth was evil. Between Sarah's and Beth's evil, Juno got shafted. Sarah was a murderer and Beth was her accomplice. Beth lied to Sarah, probably out of vindictiveness. It upset me that the survival of the murderess of the movie was presented as the cliche triumphant finale. It upset me at the world that evil could be perceived as good. The only reason I watched the sequel was in the hope of seeing the evil backstabbing murderess Sarah die and justice would finally be served, and karma would be back in balance.

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juno was the only one who didn't abandon the first injured girl and fought viciously to save her, while sara ran away like a bitsh.

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But she did run away from Beth when she stabbed her in the neck.

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Agreed.

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You're an idiot.

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But she didn't really leave her friend to die.
Yes she did.

She thought she had killed her.
Nope. Not only was Beth still moving when Juno left her, but was literally reaching for her and saying "Don't leave me." It's not exactly ambiguous (or subtle, for that matter).

Later on, when they meet up again, Sarah asks Juno what happened to Beth. Juno reports that "She didn't make it." Sarah says "You saw her die?" and Juno hesitates before replying with the world's most unconvincing nod. That pretty much tells you everything you need to know.

Not that I'm condemning Juno, exactly. She was already freaked out, and clearly in shock, so probably not thinking straight. I've never shanked one of my friends through the neck with a climbing axe, accidentally or otherwise, so I can't say what I would or wouldn't do in the same situation. And you can still hear the Crawlers in the background, so leaving Beth behind and slipping away into the shadows might well have been the smart thing to do from a survival standpoint. Hell, one of the actresses on the DVD commentary even defends Juno's actions and says that she has no choice but to leave her; one of the others then replies "There's always a choice."

So while it's debatable (I guess) whether or not Juno should have left Beth to die, I don't think it's debatable that she did.

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As the others have said - I think that it was both Juno sleeping with Sarah's husband *and* the whole "left her friend to die" that had Sarah looking at Juno as simply a worthless human being.

So then it was the two of them with the crawlers coming and hopefully the way out up ahead.

There's an old joke about two friends on safari when they run into a hungry lion. One friend immediately drops to his knee and starts tightening the laces on his shoes. His friend says "What the hell are you doing? You can't outrun a lion!"

And the first guy says "I don't have to outrun the lion. I only have to outrun *you*."

So at the end of the movie, Sarah was thinking that only one of them was going to make it, so she sacrificed Juno to slow down the crawlers.

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Yes, I was going to make the same point. It wasn't just a thing of getting revenge on Juno, it was a calculation that this would be the only way to get out. Not that this makes it right!

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I loved Sarah as a character, she suffered so much, her husband cheating on her with her friend, then losing her family in a car crash, she resented Juno earlier for what happened in the past, but after Beth telling her what Juno did AND being forced to crush her skull with a rock, it just broke her. But I think in Part 2 she had forgiven Juno and even came to see her as a friend again, but losing Juno when they were about to escape that hell hole, she had nothing else to live for, so she sacrificed herself to distract the crawlers and giving Rios a chance to escape... until she's knocked out by a shovel and placed back in the entrance of the cave...

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Justice was served no doubt.

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Yeah, that was pretty harsh. She didn't even bother to confront her or anything, just fed her to those things and moved on.

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First of all, I think The Descent is a solid horror flick. Let me be cold blooded for a moment: My favorite part of this whole movie was Sarah unraveling the "Love Each Day" necklace in front of Juno's face and then pick-axing her knee cap. Juno was the reason they were stuck in that cave- she didn't tell anyone, like you're supposed to. Juno was banging Sarah's husband. Despicable as a friend. Juno (perhaps accidentally at first) axed someone else but then chose to leave that friend alone to die. She had no remorse. Juno was the girl who thought she could get away with it. Not today b!¥©h! I can't help it- I'm a sucker for good old fashioned revenge.

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I agree with you, andi. I never lost respect for Sarah. Juno was a despicable bitch who was getting nobbed by her friend's husband, lied about the cave and lied about Beth to save her own arse; I hope she died in agony (and it's not often I say that).

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