I have a question about Rory Peter's (Jonathan Cherry) death scene in the movie, that I've been wondering about for sometime.
How realistic would it be for a flying barbed wire to be able to cut that deep through a person to kill them in that manner? (I mean especially since in Rory's case it looks like it cuts through a lot of bone, muscle and other matter)
i was thinking about that too! lol
shareOne YouTube video I watched said that it wasn't realistic, and what would be more likely is that the wire would just wrap itself around Rory, and not kill him. It's still one of my favourite death scenes though.
shareIts also one of the reasons why I dislike the movie. The first movie had creepy and realistic death scenes.
For this one, that glass sheet would probably just have broken the kid`s neck and then smashed into pieces, not turning him into jam.
Same goes with rory, most likely the barbed wire would have just wrapped around him and that`s it.
Well the first film, wasn't that realistic either - a bus gets through a barrier and then just vanishes. Still love the films though.
sharethey're all unrealistic and exaggerated. that was not the point. the point was for them to be as inventive as possible ! :)) and i think they kind of were.
think about the way tod died in the first movie - the wire just wraps around his neck and hangs him. that's *beep* come on ! :))
Well the first film, wasn't that realistic either - a bus gets through a barrier and then just vanishes. Still love the films though.
The first death (or second I don't remember) was a girl getting run over by a bus. Though, the bus goes at full speed and doens't stop even after the driver murdered someone...
shareHIT someone, not murdered someone. Murder implies malice and intent. If anything, this was vehicular manslaughter. Totally accidental and actually the fault of Terry because she didn't bother to look before stepping into the street. And the bus driver obviously stopped because the fact that Terry got hit by the bus was the reason why Kat didn't suffocate to death in that bed and breakfast (bus stopped, she never made it to the B&B)
shareIts also one of the reasons why I dislike the movie. The first movie had creepy and realistic death scenes.Right, a puddle of water slinking away and hiding under the toilet after causing a kid's death is totally realistic. It happens all the time...
For this one, that glass sheet would probably just have broken the kid`s neck and then smashed into pieces, not turning him into jam.I don't think that's true. Window glass for high-rise buildings is very heavy and thick, partly for insulation, but also to prevent the glass from cracking or shattering when it's sealed into the window frame. It was more unlikely that a pigeon managed to even crack the glass, let alone crash into the waiting room.
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I'm pretty sure he meant the deaths themselves and how the bodies take whatever is coming to them, not death's supernatural influence on the environment.
shareFor this one, that glass sheet would probably just have broken the kid`s neck and then smashed into pieces, not turning him into jam.
I just rewatched the scene on youtube, its not even big enough to do that much damage, and the metal thing was like a suction cup to hold it to the machine.
Worst case scenario, it breaks his neck, not turns him into jelly like the exaggerated film. Its why I dislike FD2 but love FD1
That's why I claimed before that I'd half agree with you.
It doesn't turn him into jelly, it smashed him into pieces until there was nothing left, like spraying blood.
The metal thing is very dangerous, it must be very heavy and the glass sheet is meters above him and with a very high velocity, death struck him.
I know of how the death occurs to him doesn't make any sense.
Totally ridiculous. It is done just for the shock factor. No way this could happen...
sharethe explosion of this size (not that a car would explode in this manner in reality, but anyway) COULD throw the wire with velocity high enough to punch threw the body, given that the wire is pretty thin and doesnt get stuck somewhere (bones for example)
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sounds like a job for mythbusters....
exactly what i thought after typing that.
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Actually they already did it with a cable snapping and it didn't even penetrate the pig's skin.
sharea fatass cable is not the same as small wire. its much harder for cable to penetrate skin because it has to push large area of skin inside the body,whether wire would simply cut threw.
There has been reported cases of cables snapping in ships and cutting parts of bodies, thought the energy in those cables were enormous.
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Again, they already tested that. Busted.
But yes, they should revisit it with a thinner wire.
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And everybody forgets about the clothes... I saw something like the Mythbusters and the same exact wire didn't even flew like in the movie, it tends to wrap around and when it hits the "target", just wraps around the said target.
It could cause some bruises, but that's all. Won't cut the entire body like in the movie.
Tim's death is realistic becasuse the glass the construction builders used could be very heavy and also the glass was being holded a metal thing (don't know what its called) that would have been enough force to squish Tim. It's not that its unrealistic its just that it seems that the construction builder's would have enough knowledge to build a fence because little kids passing there might go there and they could get hurt by one of the construction materials
sharecinematically, i guess seeing it rip through his body was more exciting?
i think it might have been more disturbing to see it wrap around his body, cutting through him slightly in some spots, until the end of the wire [which was attached to part of a wooden post of the fence] hits him in the face killing him. or something like that. i dunno.
Actually, It's possible, depending on the speed the barbed wire was moving.
Remember, a piece of paper can completely cut through a large tree if it has enough speed (hurricane) and it is at the proper angle.
Improbable, but possible...
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I believe the barb wire would cut through flesh quite easily in said situation, but I kind of have trouble believing it would slit one's spine. Bone is tough.
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It made me sad when he died, I liked Rory.
We had a guy that worked for a towing company around here and the cable went haywire as he was lifting a car. It snapped and cut him in half.
I'm with who ever said it's improbable, but possible. Given enough speed, I'd say anything can be cut through like that.
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Well the logic of that is lost from the get-go when you realize that two wooden posts brought together with barbed wire wouldn't fly straight forward 20 feet from the force of an explosion.
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it wasn't just the cable, it was how fast i was traveling. when i was in the navy they should videos on how the ropes we used to tie the ships to the piers would become so taunt, that if they broke they could cut straight through your leg, and that's just rope.
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The Ghost Ship one was hilarious, love how it hit the captain dancing with the little girl about 3 feet higher than everyone else.
I really wouldn't think something like this death would happen quite that way...I don't doubt a cable could cut through a person but think something would have to keep it taut as it's hitting the person. That said, watching people get killed unrealistically is what makes the FD movies fun...though it's also fun discussing how it would really happen. Frankly, I'll take a "barbed wire slices you in three" death over the later film deaths, like "my leg is getting crushed by an escalator so naturally it makes me spit blood..."
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I believe the captain was leaning towards her the moment it happened.
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That's very possible, I haven't seen it for a while and don't plan rewatching any time soon. I do remember it being an overall nicely shot opening, though, shame the rest of the movie couldn't quite live up.
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I believe the captain was leaning towards her the moment it happened.