worst Disney sequel


I’m a huge fan of Disney movies and I love the little mermaid but this sequel was just so bad, EVERYTHING ABOUT IT WAS BAD.
For starters Ariel’s little girl was so annoying. I was hoping she would die by the end of it.

Sebastian’s voice was utterly crap as was ALL the cast (I realised some characters were the same as number 1). And those stupid Disney 'comic relief’s' were THE WORST characters ever. They weren’t comic nor were they relief’s.

As you can see this movie upset me but THE ANIMATION.... THAT WAS SO BAD. nothing like the first which Disney actually took time doing. For instance (this was just 1 bit) where the dog was running. Did anyone see how bad that bit was? it looked so computerized plus it was slow. The whole movie looked like Disney had spent about 2 minuets making it.

I’m sure that they only did this for the money which is really sad to know from someone who loved the first 1.

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I thought it was great for a straight to Dvd sequel I honestly dunno what you guys are complainig about.

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That's exactly why it's bad fox and the hound 2 goofy movie 2 little mermaid 2 Cinderella lion king 2 was sub par etc . It really shows Disney can't make a sequel without just rewashing the original story and attempting to sell it to a new generation. They never put the effort money or advertising as the original. They never work hard on a script the animation is sometimes still good but the movie crap. The only reason Disney used to keep it up was they stole and copied ideas. Lion king was partially from a Japanese animated feature. Little mermaid of course a famous book in which the little mermaid commits suicide. The fox and the hound was a classic novel in which Todd and copper both die. Snow white was a fairytale famous fairytale. Aladdin the book one thousand and one nights. brave little toaster a book, sword in the stone a book, mulan was a fictional charter in a Chinese poem they did a pretty good job with what they had though. Alice in wonderland was a book. Pinocchio a book. Bambi a book. Cinderella a fairytale. Peter pan a play. Lady and the tramp a short story. Onehundred and one dalmatians a book Sleeping beauty a fairytale. The list goes on and one it was a mix of actual effort great animation and an originally great storyline that brought these classics to life. They bought out pixar because they'ved actually pulled off original stories that may not be as breathtaking as classic novels but very good and they actually put work into it. Disney works for a few months on their projects.

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I guess I'm one of the few people that doesn't hate this movie.

Now granted, it can't replace the first one, heck, no second anything of an original Disney movie can't replace the first one. However, all because it doesn't live up to the first one, that doesn't mean that it must automatically suck.

The singing in this movie wasn't that good at all, but to me, the singing was never a main focal point for me in these movies, it was the characters, and ever since I saw the first Little Mermaid, Ariel has been one of my favorite cartoon characters. So, to be honest, this was actually not a bad thing. I like story and development more than singing.

The animation, I don't see that big of a problem here. See, I've seen some people say that it didn't have the 'magic' animation, of the first one, however, it probably seemed like 'magic' then, because you were younger. Now, don't get me wrong, the animation of the first one was much better, however, all because you're looking at something from a different lens now, that doesn't mean it must be bad.

About Melody, I also don't see what the big deal is here. She acted just like Ariel did in the first movie, however, I did find it wierd that she was turning 12. Very weird lol.. Anyway, you could tell that she was Ariels' daughter, which means they did the right thing in her character. I wished she would've been older, to make her seem more Arielish, but what can you do? Nothing's perfect.

However, I will point out one thing I hated, and that's what happened to Flounder. Wow, they changed him completely, first off, they made him sound like he was stuffed up, and secondly, they made him look very fat. I hated that. His character for the most part, remained intact, even though he became a father.

In order to shorten this up, I will now talk about, IMO, the most important part of this movie, and that is Ariel. I for one, actually liked what they did with her character. She still had her charm that made her loved in the first one, however, she also had parental instincts, which did NOT ruin her charm at all, as you can tell from her first scenes with Melody.

All in all, as a huge TLM fan, I actually enjoyed this film. It's not as good as the original, but still good none the less. I looked forward to the third one, and no, Ariels Beginning is NOT the third movie.



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@ LoriPetty:

I totally agree with your opinion!

Little Mermaid 2 was released as a special edition now on DVD and they improved the animation of it! They changed some scenes and made them look better.

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Thank you lol..

I know, I bought all 3 movies in a DVD box set, because the box had cool art, and it came with collectable litographs.

I already had the Limited edition of the first movie, and Ariels Beginning (even though I haven't watched it yet), so now I have two copies of each lol.. Meh, I didn't care.

Actually, I can't really comment about the animation, because I haven't seen the second one in a long time, on a VHS, or when it first hit DVD. If I manage to come across an old copy (I'm trying to collect old copies of each movie), then I can comment.

What scenes did they change?



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they changed quite a lot!
They changed Ariel's transformation scene
the appereance of Ariel's sisters in the beginning of the movie
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Ariel looking furiously at Morgana when she is caught in her tentacles.
follow the link and have a link at the pictures. You will immediately see the difference :-)!

http://littleariel.proboards19.com/index.cgi?board=tlmsequels&action=display&thread=2543&page=7

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Well, to be honest, maybe it's my eyes, but I didn't really see a difference in the transformation scene, and when Ariel is looking at Morgana. I did however, see a difference when her sisters were shown.

BTW, thanks for the link, I never knew there was a proboard for LM fans. I shall register lol..



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did you scroll to the bottom of the page? There are the changed pictures.
Yes, the sisters look a lot better now.

And you haven't watched Ariel's beginning yet?
Let me know if you like it !

You're welcome ;-) I've always searched for a LM-Fancommunity and found it finally.

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Yeah, I haven't gotten to it yet, but I'll let you know what I think of it. It's TLM, so i'll probably like it.

BTW, I registered on that site. Are you there?



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Yeah, I think you will like it, maybe even more than LM2. The animation is beautiful and the songs are very good.
yes I'm there =), too!
Welcome to the board & Happy New Year.

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That's good, I knew the animation looked good from seeing the preview. The songs I don't really care about, it's the characters and story I like.

What's your username on the site? I wish there were more people there, so more conversations could come up. Oh, and I didn't like the fact that my 'Hello' thread, introducing myself was deleted lol...



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I'm arielfan22.
Yeah, I can understand that you didn't like that. Weird. Maybe you write to the administrator on the page?

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I can understand some of the posts getting deleted, because me and a person named ariel101 were basically having a conversation on the thread, going off topic, however, not the whole thread.

I don't want to start an argument, or anything like that. It's no big deal.

I'm about to actually start advertising the site on some of these boards, to try to get more people to join, so it can get more activity.



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yeah it's no big deal !
more people to discuss LM would be great ;-)
did you know that this year the first LM-movie has its 20th anniversary??

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Yep, this November.

It's hard to believe that it is this old. However, the fact that it still retains it's magic, just makes it even better.

On the Anniversary day, I'm going to put it in to watch it.



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yeah, I also thought about doing that and maybe I will watch the two sequels in chronological order :))
Ariel is also getting a new adventure on one of these princess dvds (Enchanted Tale), and it's rumored that this story will continue LM2. I don't have a link to prove this though.

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Hmmm, interesting, but, from what I believe, Ariel as a 'Princess' totally killed her character. Maybe you could clarify for me?



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Ariel married Prince Eric so she's a princess ( maybe she's even a queen in LM2 because Eric's parents are never mentioned ).
However, these Princess Vol. DVDs are just called like that and they feature new adventures about Mulan, Belle, Aurora, Jasmin etc. respectively about other Disney female leads.

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Oh, I already knew she was a Princess from marrying Eric, however, her in the Disney Princess line, I think, totally killed her character. Even was she was a Princess in the movies, she still had the same character. Now, when you look at her on the Disney Princess toys (or most of them), it looks like she fits in, however, one of the reasons I liked her the best was because she stood out from the rest.

When I meant 'clarify', I meant the supposed continuation of TLM II.

While Erics' parents are never mentioned, he's still called 'Prince' Eric, so Ariel can't be a queen. Unless he is actually a king, but isn't called 'King Eric.' I don't know lol...



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yep you're right.. Morgana calls him in LMII Prince Eric so Ariel is not a queen...good point.
Yeah, I don't care for this princess line thing ;-), it's just marketing but if I had to buy one for a child or so it would be Ariel !!

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I would to, however, one of my theories is that Disney is trying to give the shaft to Ariel. Why do I think that:

1. She's not on all of the Princess products, meanwhile, Snow White/Belle/Cinderella are.
2. They did away with Ariels' Grotto in Disneyland (CA), for Tinkerbell and the Fairies.

What do you think?

It's pretty sad. However, I still would like some clarification on this continuation of TLM II.



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Yes I also notice that Snow White,Belle and Cinderella are all together on a cup or on other things and Ariel is missing... Don't understand that either, maybe because she is a mermaid??

Tinkerbell got an own movie now so perhaps they bring out many Tinkerbell stuff to earn more money ( it's more actual than Ariel ).

On these princess dvds they always publish new animated episodes ( 30 min. long ) which is an adventure of one of these major characters .. I think the last dvd was about Aurora and Jasmin, the next one will be about Mulan and ... And Ariel will be on one of those coming after the next.. Supposedly it will be a continuation after TLM 2, but I have no link for that.

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So, in order for Disney to make money off of Tinks new movie, they have to destroy some old places that people love and cherish? That doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Well, if what you say is true, about the Princess DVD with Ariel, then I'll probably pick it up.



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I haven't watched TLMIII yet, but I must know one thing, I heard that Flounder raps in the movie. Is that true?


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mhm he makes something like "badadibadabu" it's a kind of rap.. When will you watch it?

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Hopefully soon lol...

Maybe I'll get sick, be stuck to a bed, and then pop it in lol..

Hmm, maybe one of my days off this coming week.



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I know what you mean. I also have hardly time for that stuff :).Better stay healthy!
And you heard right Flounder really is rapping something like "jump jump jump jump in the line", I forgot about that.

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Wow.....well, that's a downer lol...

Oh well, hopefully I'll still enjoy it. A lot of people on the LAF board seem to hate TLMIII.


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nah... it is beautiful! I don't know why so many complain about it. I can understand that many complain about LM II because Ariel is not "the" main character, but about the third one?

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I mostly see the same reason, that Disney messed with the characters, and they aren't the same characters. That's pretty much it, heck, most people on there even said they grew to like TLM II more because of TLM III.


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Yeah, that as well. Not to mention there are also massive continuity problems with Ariel's Beginning as well, extending even to the original film. There's how Ariel's sisters' birth order was swapped around, or how Triton seems to blame music over the humans most directly responsible for the death of his wife (thus utterly ruining what would have been a perfectly valid explanation for his genocidal hatred for humans in the original film), not even instituting a surface ban, or how Ariel didn't seem to even HAVE a discernible interest in human stuff in that movie. The Little Mermaid II may not have been a very good movie, but at least it actually TRIED to keep continuity to the film and even to some extent the TV series, and even the changes in characterization there were somewhat justified. And don't get me started about how Flounder was made completely unrecognizable in terms of personality for no real reason, nor do they even effectively develop him to ensure he becomes the worrywart we know and love. They even nearly warped Ariel as well. The only reason she even HAS her rebellious personality at all in the film is because Jodi Benson pushed for it. Otherwise, she would have been depicted like the protagonist of many teen sitcoms in the late 2000s.

So far as The Little Mermaid II, I don't exactly have that many fond memories of the film, since I walked out before it even reached half-way out of disgust, not to mention it as well as Kids WB's sock party ad are partially responsible for my trauma-induced hatred of singing. However, even I won't go so far as to say it's the worst TLM entry out there (Ariel's Beginning takes the cake there, as aforementioned), let alone the worst Disney sequel. I know Hunchback of Notre Dame II was much worse (the trailer told me ALL I needed to know about how bad that film was, especially the "diamond underwear" line). And from what I've heard of Mulan II, Pocahontas II, and Belle's Magical World, they probably made TLM II seem like an Acadamy Award winner (at least the general conception of it making a really good movie). Besides, the rerelease actually improved on some things, which actually IS a pretty good thing. To be honest, I view Melody and Ariel with an immense amount of respect, so I have little reason to hate her, and let's face it, at least they in their respective films actually DID have a reason to complain anyhow, and even Ariel in the sequel at least had a far more justified reason for sheltering Melody from the other world than Triton did (at least with Ariel's actions, there was a very definite threat, so Melody's effectively under witness protection. Triton just hated humans for reasons that can best be described as racism). And I'm probably one of those few people who actually saw the strategic reasoning behind the wall, anyhow, so I can't complain about that. If anything, the songs aside, I actually hated Morgana's portrayal in the film. Though at least the rerelease did actually fix Morgana's character somewhat by actually SHOWING her motivation.

In a way, TLMII has come a long way, since it's recently been voted one of the best sequels. Besides, it certainly had a far better plot and characterizations than Beauty and the Beast did, and I certainly can understand why Ariel and Melody did what they did, while with Belle, well, I really can't follow her now, especially not when she sold Beast and his servants out to the mob despite knowing full well what Gaston's like and then acting all surprised when they just decide to kill them. Such a shame that TLM II led to the cancellation of the Disney Sequels, though. They were getting better, and besides, I could have settled for an actual sequel for Beauty and the Beast, one actually set during the French Revolution I should add, since quite frankly, that film needed it especially in light of rather negative implications of Belle's future if you've studied up on the history of that time period (and I don't mean her dying at the hands of the French Revolutionaries, I mean her actually JOINING those revolutionaries and basically pulling a Nibelheim Incident on France).

Maybe someday, I'll confront my past demons and watch TLM II again. I have the special edition, so it should be safe.

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well i believe the reason most disney sequals are crap is because they have lost there "touch" with how they made the originals and also trying so hard to make it "child friendly" UGH..its a disgrace!

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It is amazing that this board is now almost eight years old.

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Really? I've seen worse Disney sequels, and this movie isn't one of them.

The WORST Disney sequels, in my opinion, are:

1.) The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2
2.) Fox and the Hound 2
3.) Tarzan II
4.) Mulan II
5.) Belle's Magical World
6.) The Lilo & Stitch sequels
7.) Return to Neverland
8.) Atlantis: Milo's Return
9.) The Cinderella sequels
10.) Lady & the Tramp II: Scamp's Adventure
11.) Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World

IMO, "Return to the Sea" is one of the better Disney sequels.


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